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The whole UNC debacle speaks far worse of the accrediting agencies than the NCAA. Despite what those whose lives revolve around sports may think, a school having its accreditation stripped is far worse than anything the NCAA could ever do.
A direct arrow at North Carolina.
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my question for allowing a kid to go back to college if he goes undrafted....how is that really going to work?
So lets say Billy declares for the draft in March. And its clearly a long shot for Billy and he knows it on whether he will get drafted.
So the team now uses his scholarship to sign a freshman named Bob in April
the NBA draft isn't until end of june. Billy doesn't get drafted. What happens to Bob now that Billy can go back to college and take his scholarship back?
maybe I am missing something
my question for allowing a kid to go back to college if he goes undrafted....how is that really going to work?
So lets say Billy declares for the draft in March. And its clearly a long shot for Billy and he knows it on whether he will get drafted.
So the team now uses his scholarship to sign a freshman named Bob in April
the NBA draft isn't until end of june. Billy doesn't get drafted. What happens to Bob now that Billy can go back to college and take his scholarship back?
maybe I am missing something
The problem with the report is this:
"In the current uncertain legal setting, however, the Commission has decided to focus its recommendations on supporting the college model".
That's a pretty big blanket under which to sweep. Especially when calling for expansion of the NCAA into partnerships, providing certifications and permanently denying employment. It's nothing more than expanding a house of cards and hoping for the best. Currently there is only the flimsiest legal authority for NCAA activities.
my question for allowing a kid to go back to college if he goes undrafted....how is that really going to work?
So lets say Billy declares for the draft in March. And its clearly a long shot for Billy and he knows it on whether he will get drafted.
So the team now uses his scholarship to sign a freshman named Bob in April
the NBA draft isn't until end of june. Billy doesn't get drafted. What happens to Bob now that Billy can go back to college and take his scholarship back?
maybe I am missing something
Billy remains eligible to get a scholarship, but Billy's not guaranteed to get one. In this scenario, the school awarded that scholarship slot to Bob. In other words, Billy took a big risk signing up for the draft and in your scenario he lost -- didn't get drafted and lost his scholarship.
Billy remains eligible to get a scholarship, but Billy's not guaranteed to get one. In this scenario, the school awarded that scholarship slot to Bob. In other words, Billy took a big risk signing up for the draft and in your scenario he lost -- didn't get drafted and lost his scholarship.
The whole UNC debacle speaks far worse of the accrediting agencies than the NCAA. Despite what those whose lives revolve around sports may think, a school having its accreditation stripped is far worse than anything the NCAA could ever do.
How would the NCAA end "one and done"? They can't prohibit players from going pro, can they?
How would the NCAA end "one and done"? They can't prohibit players from going pro, can they?
Another way to end the "one-and-dones" - work out a new agreement with the NBA with a higher age for draft eligibility. Maybe go to the football rule where players cannot be drafted until they have completed 3 years in college.
make the one-and-dones really commit to being a college player - and student. If they don't want to go to school, there's always the G League.
The part of this I want to see play out involves the NCAA becoming more involved and exerting more control over the summer programs and AAU culture.
Personally, I would have no problem with ditching the entire AAU scene. Have the NCAA run a program with summer leagues and showcase events, but working with High School coaches to set up the structure and provide protection for the players - not the shadow world of AAU with shoe companies, 'talent scouts' and hangers-on who look at every kid as a potential meal ticket.
How does the NCAA deny employment, permanently or otherwise?
I don’t really have an issue with 1&done. If a player is good enough, he should be allowed to move on.The NBA has no incentive to go for what you've suggested. 1 year has proven to weed out lots of kids who may have washed out if they'd gone straight to the NBA, but increasing the time between HS and the NBA is just going to cut out on 1 or 2 prime years of talent in the NBA. There's no "agreement" with the NBA today. The NBA implemented a rule and the NCAA has lived with it.
If they want to claim to be true to the "student-athlete" name the NCAA tosses around, a scholarship in the books should apply to any departure due to school rules (grades, discipline, etc). Coaches should be held accountable for lack of disciplineIf they said that scholarship was on the book for two years, would that apply to only players who get drafted, or all players? It would seem weird to punish a team for preparing a player well enough to go professional in his chosen field, but not for having a player drop out/get kicked out due to academic or disciplinary issues.
If they want to claim to be true to the "student-athlete" name the NCAA tosses around, a scholarship in the books should apply to any departure due to school rules (grades, discipline, etc). Coaches should be held accountable for lack of discipline
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Having read the report a little more closely - the NCAA proposal calls for ending one-and-dones by letting kids go right into the NBA draft out of HS. It also would allow players to hire an agent without losing eligibility, and would give undrafted players the right to return to college and retain eligibility. so a top HS player could (theoretically) hire an agent and declare for the draft. then, if they weren't drafted, they could still play college ball.
So, in theory, the changes would cut down on one-and-dones by allowing the top HS players to jump right to the pros. The major impact would be on programs like Duke and Kentucky that have multiple one-and-dones - they would lose out on some of those top players who would go straight to the pros. Of course, Duke and KY would still be able to sign some of the top recruits in the country - just not the ones that are parking at college for a year while they wait to go pro.
This is where I always get confused. The NCAA has no say in when players are eligible for the draft. Is the NCAA proposal basically that they hope an outside organization changes it's rules?