Carroll gone, USC athletic department going down in flames?

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What are the odds that the new USC coach will implement a spread offense? :clap:
 

Maybe I'm a cynic, but I'm guessing that Carroll's move to the Seahawks is all about staying one step in front of the law. When the CA judge recently ruled that he would have to be questioned by the NCAA, that was bad for USC's future.

I don't think Pete suddenly had this great new-found desire to coach in the NFL. The Trojans are in trouble.
 

anonymous said:
Maybe I'm a cynic, but I'm guessing that Carroll's move to the Seahawks is all about staying one step in front of the law. When the CA judge recently ruled that he would have to be questioned by the NCAA, that was bad for USC's future.

I don't think Pete suddenly had this great new-found desire to coach in the NFL. The Trojans are in trouble.
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I don't think the judge ruled that he would have to be questioned by the NCAA...if I understood the ruling correctly it means that the civil trial involving Bush will be public and Carroll can be subpoenaed as part of it. He can't dodge a subpoena. You do raise an interesting point though. The NCAA lacks subpoena power. So once he's no longer @ USC he can dodge the NCAA all he likes (assuming he never wants to coach college FB ever again that is). That doesn't mean that NCAA can't/won't use whatever nuggets are available in his testimony (assuming he is called to give it).
 

USC before Pete Caroll

2000 5-7
1999 6-6
1998 8-5
1997 6-5
1996 6-6
1995 9-2-1
1994 8-3-1
1993 8-5
1992 6-5-1
1991 3-8

Most people I have heard who talk about USC never aknowledge that USC, before Carroll, was (what we would apparently call here in Minnesota) "mediocre to bad".
 


It's a great point Goldmember.

USC was somewhat similar to an Oklahoma before Stoops though (mediocore program but still had exceptional tradition), they have legacy (prior to Carroll) that rivals just about any school in the country. I am not saying that to take anything away from the job that Pete Carroll did at USC. In fact, after so many years of Pete Carroll it's hard for me to even conceptualize how it is possible that USC had such a string of mediocrity.
 

Sources say, that Carroll has already started to form the staff he will work with in Seattle. The Chicago Bears have been informed that Jeremy Bates, who was scheduled to interview for their offensive coordinator's job, has decided to accept the same job with Carroll and the Seahawks. A source close to USC linebackers coach Ken Norton Jr. confirmed to ESPN's Shelley Smith that Carroll will be taking Norton to Seattle to fill the same role with the Seahawks.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
I am not saying that to take anything away from the job that Pete Carroll did at USC. In fact, after so many years of Pete Carroll it's hard for me to even conceptualize how it is possible that USC had such a string of mediocrity.
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First of all, Los Angeles had professional football, which draws some of the limelight away from the college programs. UCLA was much stronger.

Maybe even USC was playing by the rules under Hackett and Robinson?
 

31 Points said:
Sources say, that Carroll has already started to form the staff he will work with in Seattle. The Chicago Bears have been informed that Jeremy Bates, who was scheduled to interview for their offensive coordinator's job, has decided to accept the same job with Carroll and the Seahawks. A source close to USC linebackers coach Ken Norton Jr. confirmed to ESPN's Shelley Smith that Carroll will be taking Norton to Seattle to fill the same role with the Seahawks.
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The part about Bates is interesting because the Seattle paper reported yesterday that Carroll was trying to persuade Norm Chow to be his offensive coordinator.
 




The Gophers will of course still be underdogs for their games next September and in 2011. There are still plenty of top players on that roster. However, just think about how "daunting" those games seem today compared to when they were first announced? Right now, it feels a bit like having Cal coming to town.
 

AhliBobwa said:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seahawks/2010761357_hawk11.html

It's going to be interesting to see what the NCAA's case against USC ultimately looks like. My bet is they get punished severely and are prohibited from post season competition for several years.
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This NFL rule just seems to be a joke now, as though the team checked this off the list. It was obvious that Seattle had decided on Pete Carroll before firing Mora. If I were Leslie Frazier, I think I'd refuse the interview request, which was nothing more than fulfilling the team's requirement. Like many things, the intentions of this rule were good, but the reality seems pointless:

The Seahawks also interviewed Minnesota defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier, thereby satisfying the league's hiring protocol that at least one minority candidate be interviewed for a head-coaching vacancy. Frazier is African-American.

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