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@fbrumormill: "Sources at Tulane tell Football Rumor Mill there may be mutual interest between the Green Wave and former Minnesota coach Tim Brewster."
 

That would surprise me. It's possible that he's gotten his rookie mistakes out of his system. It he had adopted one system and stuck with it, he'd probably had done better. I would have thought that if he got back into coaching it would be at a lower level. Might be interesting to watch.
 

RodentRampage said:
That would surprise me. It's possible that he's gotten his rookie mistakes out of his system. It he had adopted one system and stuck with it, he'd probably had done better. I would have thought that if he got back into coaching it would be at a lower level. Might be interesting to watch.
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If that turns out to be true, we need to schedule them.
 

Bernie Bierman coached at Tulane before coming to Minnesota.
 



Brewster isnt as bad as minnesotans would like to think. He was bad. But not as bad as minnesotans like to think.
 

Rosemountian said:
Brewster isnt as bad as minnesotans would like to think. He was bad. But not as bad as minnesotans like to think.
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My feeling as well. He was in over his head but my guess is a lot of the kinks may have been worked out by now and he wouldn't make the same mistakes again. Good luck to him if he gets the job.
 

I actually ran into Nolan Brewster one day last spring and asked him about his dad. Told me he was going back to the NFL after doing one year of broadcast stuff. Who knows though, everyone wants to be the boss. I'd probably opt for a cushy NFL TE coaching job.
 

Well, if he went to Tulane his recruiting would be right out the back door. You wonder though with his history of merry-go-round ass't coaches who would want to sign on with him?
 



KoolAid said:
Told me he was going back to the NFL after doing one year of broadcast stuff. Who knows though, everyone wants to be the boss. I'd probably opt for a cushy NFL TE coaching job.
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I get that you'd be working a lot harder, more hours, etc. with a college HC job vs. an NFL position coach job, but the vast salary disparity seems to be too great to ignore. He'd make, what, $250-350 k as a TE coach? Probably $700-900 k as Tulane's HC? Even with the commitment difference, seems to be a no-brainer to me (if he's even offered this job).
 

I've always thought if he could get a handful of impact recruits at a lower level like FCS or sun belt, CUSA, etc he'd be fine.
Southern Miss has done that, recruit locally at a high level to a lesser conference, win on talent and double down on the wins into more local recruiting.
Brewster is ok as an executive,not in the BIG TEN, but he just needs to find 2 coordinators and stick with them.
 

Just went down the hall to tell this to my Tulane grad co-worker.

His response: "Oh my god." (head goes down on desk)
 

No matter what happens I wish him the very best.
 



It would seem like a decent hiring for Tulane. He is a relatively big name (for the mid major world), he has coached 4 seasons and went to a bowl game in two of those seasons (I know, they weren't good bowls), he has good connections in Texas. Doesn't seem like a bad fit.

Good luck Brew!
 



Good luck to him if he gets the Tulane job

Never questioned his work ethic or commitment to try and make Minnesota a winner, just some of the coaching changes and knee jerk responses the first couple years. Changing coordinators set him up for failure, that and having a lot inexperienced position coaches focused mostly on recruiting. Maybe a second chance and a fresh start at a school that has some more recruits in the backyard, is what he needs. You win with talent but you have to be able to coach them and adjust. Tulane would not be a total trainwreck if they gave him a shot.
 

The main reason Brewster failed miserably at MN is the same reason I expect Kill to be successful:

Continuity

I much prefer the coach and staff that the Gophers have now but there's little doubt in my mind that if Dunbar and Withers remained as Coordinators (or Roof for that matter), Brewster would still be coaching the Gophers today. Changing coaches is bad enough. Changing entire systems and Offensive and Defensive philosophies is a train wreck waiting to happen.

People put way too much stock into the actual "coaching" of the head coach. There are complete idiots and morons coaching all over the country, many successfully, because they have surrounded themselves with good people.

I'm sure Brew learned a lot in his time with the Gophers. He could probably be successful somewhere else. Look at Dan Monson at Long Beach State.
 


Ogee Oglethorpe said:
The main reason Brewster failed miserably at MN is the same reason I expect Kill to be successful:

Continuity

I much prefer the coach and staff that the Gophers have now but there's little doubt in my mind that if Dunbar and Withers remained as Coordinators (or Roof for that matter), Brewster would still be coaching the Gophers today. Changing coaches is bad enough. Changing entire systems and Offensive and Defensive philosophies is a train wreck waiting to happen.

People put way too much stock into the actual "coaching" of the head coach. There are complete idiots and morons coaching all over the country, many successfully, because they have surrounded themselves with good people.

I'm sure Brew learned a lot in his time with the Gophers. He could probably be successful somewhere else. Look at Dan Monson at Long Beach State.
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Your right Ogee. In regards Long Beach State and Monson. I would take 4 of their starters ( other than Trevor) over the other 4 Gopher starters. He has a nice squad.
 

Best of luck to Brewster! He gave his heart and soul into our program. If he can keep his coordinators and get some help from his AD, then I think he has a chance to succeed.
 

Monson always was a decent enough coach stuck in an impossible situation here with the haskin's sanctions, loss of scholarships and the hateful mobbers and bashers here at Minnesota. IF you check things out, how has Tubby really done much better than Monson did here with full scholarship numbers, no recruiting sanctions and a free pass from the mobber/basher types here?

Between the administration here, (b(s)jm & prexy b, the mobbing/bashing fans and the recruiting situation, it is pretty damn tough to finish above sixth or seventh in Big Ten play.

Heck, before haskins really had his cheating scam fully in place, 6th or 7th place pretty much captured his typical Big Ten finish too.



It would be a REAL pleasure watching Tulane experience "brewball..." Of course, they won't hire him...but...if they actually did: it would be a real pleasure seeing what the fates might brew up down on the Gulf Coast. What a hoot it would be...I'll never forgive b(s)jm & prexy b for what that brewster did to our Gopher's football program though...

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Yeah, the Monson years weren't good but they were pretty similar to the Mason years.

Monson took over a terrible situation (sanctions, etc.), and he won 39% of his Big 10 games.
Mason took over a terrible situation (we were BAD), and he won 40% of his Big 10 games.

So far, Tubby's been a slight improvement over Monson. We are winning 44% of our Big 10 games but we have been to the NCAA twice in the last 4 years (only went 1 in the 8 Monson years).
 

By the end of Monson's time here, the sanctions were over. If it wasn't for mobbers like wren, maybe "This Brewster" would have done better here.
 

And, tubby is earning over 2 million a year.

The fact that Monson EVER made the tourney with ALL the sanctions, loss of scholarships and the way the haskin's scandal destroyed the spirit in the BARN is really pretty remarkable. Hell, they still aren't selling out the BARN. The spirit of Men's Hoops was pretty much destoryed by the haskin's scandal. I don't know if it is coming back any time soon. Probably not with a basement hugging record any way...

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Ogee Oglethorpe said:
The main reason Brewster failed miserably at MN is the same reason I expect Kill to be successful:

Continuity

I much prefer the coach and staff that the Gophers have now but there's little doubt in my mind that if Dunbar and Withers remained as Coordinators (or Roof for that matter), Brewster would still be coaching the Gophers today. Changing coaches is bad enough. Changing entire systems and Offensive and Defensive philosophies is a train wreck waiting to happen.

People put way too much stock into the actual "coaching" of the head coach. There are complete idiots and morons coaching all over the country, many successfully, because they have surrounded themselves with good people.

I'm sure Brew learned a lot in his time with the Gophers. He could probably be successful somewhere else. Look at Dan Monson at Long Beach State.
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I think I disagree this is a good move for him. A key skill at the Tulane level is identifying kids who can play who will be missed by LSU, etc. But to me, what Brewster was not good at was identifying kids that were under rated, but could develop. Look at the DBs, DEs and WRs he brought in his last three years. Most were never rated high and have proven their ratings were right. He and Berezowtiz apparently saw themselves as experts on talent, their expertise was apparently all about the level of kid we were not going to get consistently.
 

In brewster/b(s)jm/prexy b: I saw what I saw and I said: "...I don't like what I am seeing here..." So, IF you want to give me credit for getting prexy b out the door and for getting that brewster clown fired...I'll happily take credit for that. The ONLY regret during the past couple of years that I have is the fact that I have NOT been able to purge the influence of the totally incompetent b(s)jm from the U of M Revenue sports. But, it is NEVER too late to debus and ditch him!

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imthewalrus said:
And, tubby is earning over 2 million a year.

The fact that Monson EVER made the tourney with ALL the sanctions, loss of scholarships and the way the haskin's scandal destroyed the spirit in the BARN is really pretty remarkable. Hell, they still aren't selling out the BARN. The spirit of Men's Hoops was pretty much destoryed by the haskin's scandal. I don't know if it is coming back any time soon. Probably not with the a basement hugging record any way...

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I agree. So far, Tubby has certainly not been "more bang for the buck". I'm not calling for his head or anything, but a couple more years of mediocrity (at best), and it might become time to move on.

I was never one of the people who hated Monson, I thought he walked into a terrible situation and did a decent job.
 

Ogee Oglethorpe said:
The main reason Brewster failed miserably at MN is the same reason I expect Kill to be successful:

Continuity

I much prefer the coach and staff that the Gophers have now but there's little doubt in my mind that if Dunbar and Withers remained as Coordinators (or Roof for that matter), Brewster would still be coaching the Gophers today. Changing coaches is bad enough. Changing entire systems and Offensive and Defensive philosophies is a train wreck waiting to happen.

People put way too much stock into the actual "coaching" of the head coach. There are complete idiots and morons coaching all over the country, many successfully, because they have surrounded themselves with good people.

I'm sure Brew learned a lot in his time with the Gophers. He could probably be successful somewhere else. Look at Dan Monson at Long Beach State.
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Brewster was the wrong choice to replace Mason for a lot of reasons, but I never doubted his work ethic. I think he now has a better idea of who he is as a head coach and what it takes to win (not changing systems every five minutes).

His recruiting was spotty (can't argue with Gray or three of the Skyline 4 though) and I think he looked too much at speed and strength as measured by 40 yard dash times and bench pressing weights. Kill has been preaching "football speed," which is a whole lot different and something that Brewster couldn't seem to zone in on. Our lack of "football speed" is probably the most glaring problem we currently have.

But good luck to Brewster. His amp always went to 11 ala Nigel Tufnel and if he dials it back to 10, he'll be alright.
 

If your position was that Monson was great, and it was all Maturi's fault, why then don't you apply the same standard to Brewster.
 

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