Brewster finally breaks his silence

A note to ski-u-master DEBATABLE...very debatable about that master stuff...

You say: "...I notice you edit all you posts, why is the content still so terrible after editing?..."

I make a lot of typos.

Now, I notice that you also make typos...you say: "...I notice you edit all you posts..." Maybe YOU should consider editing all of YOUR posts... ; 0 ) I have noticed that there is some other killjoy-type around here who makes a lot of your kind of errors....

You are going to need to become a much better debater ski-u-master.
 

Prize Quote of the Week from Wren

LOL - Old Silver Tongue keeps on giving us some of the best quotes ever. I particularly like the last line where he tells Ski-U-Master that he needs to become a much better debater. Wren should know since he is the master (de)bater here. Yes, that last line was sophomoric but wren brings out the worst in all of us.

A note to ski-u-master DEBATABLE...very debatable about that master stuff...

You say: "...I notice you edit all you posts, why is the content still so terrible after editing?..."

I make a lot of typos.

Now, I notice that you also make typos...you say: "...I notice you edit all you posts..." Maybe YOU should consider editing all of YOUR posts... ; 0 ) I have noticed that there is some other killjoy-type around here who makes a lot of your kind of errors....

You are going to need to become a much better debater ski-u-master.
 

Sorry for my ignorance, but what is this ; 0 ) symbol in all of his posts?
 

Sorry for my ignorance, but what is this ; 0 ) symbol in all of his posts?

I think it means either "It is all about Big Ten Wins" or "Fire the Prez and Maturi". Wren determined that by using it he has saved over 500 hours of typing.
 

A note to ski-u-master DEBATABLE...very debatable about that master stuff...

You say: "...I notice you edit all you posts, why is the content still so terrible after editing?..."

I make a lot of typos.

Now, I notice that you also make typos...you say: "...I notice you edit all you posts..." Maybe YOU should consider editing all of YOUR posts... ; 0 ) I have noticed that there is some other killjoy-type around here who makes a lot of your kind of errors....

You are going to need to become a much better debater ski-u-master.

The typos and grammatical errors I can let slide, we can't be internet grammar police. I'm just amazed that you can type out your absurd diatribes, go back and edit them, and still not realize how senile and crazy it sounds.
 


Just so you know Coach, that “situation” is now in a much worse situation then prior to your arrival....


I appreciate the effort that he put forward during his time here, but that comment appears to be a little bit too condescending, considering its coming from someone with a 15-30 lifetime head coaching resume.

I might be overreacting due to the fact that I’m halfway through a brand new Sam Adams summer sampler 12 pack, but I think Brew should just man up and say “ We didn’t get the job done…”, as opposed to always blaming KFAN, the Strib / PP, Reusse, this “situation”, etc etc etc. That’s one of the main reasons that the majority of the fans in this state never truly connected to him, the people from this area don’t want to hear any excuses! We're sick of it! In my opinion, I believe that’s why Coach Kills no alibi approach to his job is the primary factor in his sky-high popularity around Gold Country.

Wow, I really must have read that article too fast. Can you show me the quote where he blames anybody else in that article?

As for a "situation," everything is a situation. It can be a good situation or a bad one. Brewster didn't place any value on whether it was a good or bad situation.
 

Brewster had less than one week to put together a coaching staff after he was hired in the middle of January. Does it surprise anyone that his coaching staff was well below average by any measure? He went looking for the best Offensive Coordinator he could find with Big 10 experience. Unfortunately, he found Mike Dunbar who turned out to be a complete disaster with the Gophers.

The only explanation for Dunbar's success at Northwestern must have been that he had good players and very good spread QB's to coach. Dunbar did nothing with the players he had on the Gophers. He came to Minnesota with the spread offense and couldn't or wouldn't coach any other way. I don't believe Brewster was ever sold on the spread and he dumped it after he got rid of Dunbar.

Brewster's big mistake in his first year was hiring Dunbar. However, Withers wasn't much better. Withers also coached like Dunbar by plugging the players into his defensive schemes rather than doing the hard work of designing schemes to put the available talent in the best positions to make plays.

shouldn't matter how much time he had to hire coaches. You can't tell me there still aren't quality coordinators available in January. Also throw in the fact any coach getting their first opportunity should have a short list of coordinators they would approach or hire from their network when they get an opportunity for first coaching job.

Instead of beating the Rose Bowl and "Gopher Nation" into the ground he should have been willing to do what it took to get on any of the local radio stations to talk about the Gopher football program.
 

A note to ski-u-master DEBATABLE...very debatable about that master stuff...

You say: "...I notice you edit all you posts, why is the content still so terrible after editing?..."

I make a lot of typos.

Now, I notice that you also make typos...you say: "...I notice you edit all you posts..." Maybe YOU should consider editing all of YOUR posts... ; 0 ) I have noticed that there is some other killjoy-type around here who makes a lot of your kind of errors....

You are going to need to become a much better debater ski-u-master.

Editing is a sign of critical thinking. It is not a sign of stupidity. One might say Edison edited over 10,000 light bulbs before he commercially produced one. Keep posting. Only idiots comment on editing.
 

I just can't put Wacker in that group; Coach Wacker just might have been the nicest man ever born. Shocks me that he was never successful. He loved those kids.
 



Brewster's biggest problem was one of two things:
Either
A) he never believed in the spread offense and someone talked him into it

Or

B) he believed in the spread but was somehow convinced by people and media that you can't run the ball from the spread in the big ten

Brewster's most significant failing also happens to be one of the primary reasons I think Kill will be successful; Continuity of staff.

If Brewster had arrived with a proven staff with which he had won before, and they had stayed during his tenure, he would still be the coach. Not a doubt in my mind. Problem was, he had never been in that position before, and therefore never had an opportunity to assemble those kinds of people around him.

Heck, for get about BOTH coordinators; if even Dunbar OR Roof had stuck around for all of Brewster's tenure, I think it's highly unlikely Brewster would have been fired. No program can withstand that kind of constant turnover.

I'll give Brewster one thing; he made people care about Gopher football again. Lots of the people who are the most upset about Brewster's lack of success, hiring, etc. weren't even HERE 5-6 years ago. I'd rather have a fan base that's pissed off than one that doesn't care and that's what we had under Mason.
 

Wacker was successful...

I just can't put Wacker in that group; Coach Wacker just might have been the nicest man ever born. Shocks me that he was never successful. He loved those kids.

Just not at Minnesota:

1974 Texas Lutheran 11–0 W NAIA Division II Championship
1975 Texas Lutheran 11–1 W NAIA Division II Championship

1976 North Dakota State 9–3 6–0 1st L NCAA Division II Semifinal
1977 North Dakota State 9–2–1 6–0–1 1st L NCAA Division II Semifinal

1979 Southwest Texas State 7–4
1980 Southwest Texas State 8–3 1st
1981 Southwest Texas State 13–1 1st W NCAA Division II Championship
1982 Southwest Texas State 14–0 1st W NCAA Division II Championship

1984 TCU 8–4 5–3 T–3rd L Bluebonnet

The real lesson here should have been that the last 7 years at TCU, with only 1 winning year in that time, were not a mirage, and we should have looked elsewhere.
 

I think Brewster lacked two qualities that every head coach has to have: patience and "football worldview." Those are pretty big deficits that can't be made up simply by working hard. He simply didn't know who he was as a coach and was too much in a hurry to take the team in any direction as opposed to laying out a consistent plan and moving in that direction. No wonder there was assistant coach attrition.
 

I'll give Brewster one thing; he made people care about Gopher football again. Lots of the people who are the most upset about Brewster's lack of success, hiring, etc. weren't even HERE 5-6 years ago. I'd rather have a fan base that's pissed off than one that doesn't care and that's what we had under Mason.

That is an interesting quote, I never thought of it that way. I have been a Gopher fan my entire life (I am 27), but when Brewster became the HC I became a "diehard" fan.
 



I think Brewster lacked two qualities that every head coach has to have: patience and "football worldview." Those are pretty big deficits that can't be made up simply by working hard. He simply didn't know who he was as a coach and was too much in a hurry to take the team in any direction as opposed to laying out a consistent plan and moving in that direction. No wonder there was assistant coach attrition.

This is the essence of Brewster's undoing. Also why I think Kill is laying good groundwork to a succesful program. Patience and thoughtfulness was sacrificed for the potential of sparking a snowball effect to success.
I think I have the Brewster strategy for success figured out, he came up short on several key parts, but I have a good idea of what he was trying to do here.

Everything was based on talent and recruiting more talent.
He went for short term recruiting in 08 with an eye on fast success and rolling it into even better recruiting in 09, 10, 11, etc.
In hindsight he should have redshirted quite a few 08' recruits, targeted lower risk types and built up depth with an eye to a specific system, he didn't because he expected fast success in 08' and new, better recruits to replace his high risk, JUCO, and unredshirted players very quickly.
A few snags IMO:
-Decker getting hurt cost him at least 1 win in 08', probably against wisky which would have been a pretty successful season, and maybe gotten him some better kids for the 09 class.
-Hayo carpenter obviously tricked many staffs around the country, he was a gamebreaker in his JUCO league, a dud anywhere else. Alot was riding on him being next to Decker in 09' and being an epic deep threat
-Obviously he trusted Jedd Fisch too much in 09', big mistake. I thought our bowl game offense against Kansas was pretty solid under Tim Davis and a disgruntled Dunbar, he thought he'd be able to get his Texas friend Applewhite to come here.
-Decker hurt in 09' probably cost him 2-3 games, probably IL, and Iowa, and would have been an easier victory against SDSU, (saving me personally from one of the drunkest evenings of my life culminating in tipping over in a wheelchair and putting a hole in drywall with my head:eek:). Decker was that good in 09', simply could have dominated/been toss up partner to an overwhelmed Weber and had success. We were punchless against SDSU and Iowa, but also had Iowa flustered on O.
-Underestimated defensive depth issues in 2010, should have reloaded with JUCOs since he was in deep already with short term types. Gameplan against SD was built on green safeties knowing what they were doing, should have run the ball more to eat up clock, protect D like they did against MTSU. Ultimately he lost his job over this one.

If one or two of these don't happen, he's still here. It was all based on short term success building momentum in recruiting and getting more and more talented players in here.
Unsustainable? Probably, but I think if Decker is healthy he's coming off of 2 8-5 seasons, a win against wisky in 08' and iowee in 09', 55-0 is closer, SDSU is further, and there are probably a few more athletes to throw around this year as we could have snagged some better recruits.
Now, all aboard the Kill express, let sleeping dogs lay.
 

The real lesson here should have been that the last 7 years at TCU, with only 1 winning year in that time, were not a mirage, and we should have looked elsewhere.

Actually, the last 7 years at TCU are precisely why Wacker got the job here in the first place. At the time, the program was reeling from the Darville/Holtz violations and was going on probation. Considering the black eye the U got from the basketball program in the mid-80's, the #1 thing they were looking for with a new football coach was integrity.

Wacker had a bad record at TCU because he discovered serious violations going on with boosters and turned the program in to the NCAA. TCU got crushed with sanctions, but Wacker stayed there through them and eventually got his team back to a winning record. The U looked at his previous record of great success, combined it with his deep integrity in turning his own program in, endangering his job and decided he was a great choice for our job. It didn't work out, as we well know, but he was a great guy.
 

Ole - I am curious that you seem to think Brewster could have survived if a few of the things listed had gone his way. To me, and I am an outsider, they were part and parcel of what 50-lb called not having a "football worldview." Injuries and erroneous estimation of talent are part of the football landscape - you must have contingency plans to put in place.

Another part of that worldview is being able to deal with the media. People make fun of coach-speak and liked Brewster because he let his enthusiasm show. Unfortunately, he also stuck his foot in his mouth every other week and pouted when things didn't go his way. A little more stoic coach-speak and less off-of-cuff insight into Punky's view of the world would have kept Brewster from being the poster boy of bluster. I'm not saying his mouth cost him his job (his W-L record did that), but his public gaffes sure made it easier to get rid of him.
 

Ole - I am curious that you seem to think Brewster could have survived if a few of the things listed had gone his way. To me, and I am an outsider, they were part and parcel of what 50-lb called not having a "football worldview." Injuries and erroneous estimation of talent are part of the football landscape - you must have contingency plans to put in place.

Another part of that worldview is being able to deal with the media. People make fun of coach-speak and liked Brewster because he let his enthusiasm show. Unfortunately, he also stuck his foot in his mouth every other week and pouted when things didn't go his way. A little more stoic coach-speak and less off-of-cuff insight into Punky's view of the world would have kept Brewster from being the poster boy of bluster. I'm not saying his mouth cost him his job (his W-L record did that), but his public gaffes sure made it easier to get rid of him.

I agree with the worldview point, he had no backup plans, he expected things to just "work" like they did at Texas. He miscalculated on a lot of things. I'm absolutely not saying he knew what he was doing, I just can see what direction he was going and it probably made sense to him since recruiting was an obsession for him.
His media goodwill buffer was eaten up fast by the 1-11 season and his bluster, no doubt.
Coach Kill will probably get a pass for a while, maybe even until 2012.

Brewster's plan was probably unsustainable, but he did have the ear of some elite level talent, only to be beaten out late. Could 8-5, 9-4 in 08' have gotten us Lamicheal James, or Micheal Floyd for example? Could 8-5/9-4 gotten us some other elite talent in 09'? Decker's talent would have lead to more wins in 08' and 09', the 10' collapse could still have happened, but I think Brewster was closer than many would admit to getting 8 to 10 wins in back to back seasons, which would have silenced alot of critics. He didn't, his plan fell apart, he gone.

Kill is being careful, he's not interested in trying to build too fast:
-Recruiting lots of O linemen and secondary type athletes for future depth. Seemingly with emphasis on character and long term staying power(academics seem good for alot of kids)
-Will probably redshirt alot of kids
-Has downplayed alot publicly to give himself time to ready the team and set the program up.
-Has set offensive and defensive systems to recruit and develop to.
 

ole: you take liberties trying to give brewster the benefit of the doubt...

AND you really stretch things trying to make it sound as if he was "closer" than what his record actually tells us. Sorry, ole, you don't get to take those kinds of liberties for your boy brew. I could make a case that the program was much closer to totally collapsing with brewster at the helm than what the record shows. (Considering he started 1-11 overall and 0-8 in Big Ten play and in his final seson he once again only had 1 win and zero Big Ten wins. THAT is ALL anyone will EVER need to know. I think it is entirely possible that there might have been some nasty charges surfacing against brewboy for recruiting violations and the like if he would have been allowe to continue on his path of creating chaos, doom and destruction within the football program at the U of M. He was headed in all directions at once and was going NO WHERE. Even badger joel mactjuri had to take the keys away from him eventually and lock him out of the Bierman Building.

Sorry ole: you just plain don't get to start doing your post brewboy spin act here without being called on it. brewster totally failed and let's leave it at that. The brewboy record IS the brewboy record. Your brewboy got his butt kicked every direction he turned....and he turned in a LOT of directions. He failed. He was fired. His contract was bought out mid-season. Your brewboy was a nightmare....a bad news no count in Big Ten play. He and bjm totally blew the new stadium benefit. Left to his own devices he would most likely have had our football program totally in the crapper and might very well have messed up big-time with the NCAA. He was SUCH a loose cannon.

There ole...now we have explored the other side of your campaign to try to make your brewboy look better. There is NO WAY he can look better. He WAS what his record WAS. He had NO discipline and NO ability to coach players for success. He was exactly what his record was. Thank God we can speak of him in the past tense.
 

AND you really stretch things trying to make it sound as if he was "closer" than what his record actually tells us. Sorry, ole, you don't get to take those kinds of liberties for your boy brew. I could make a case that the program was much closer to totally collapsing with brewster at the helm than what the record shows. (Considering he started 1-11 overall and 0-8 in Big Ten play and in his final seson he once again only had 1 win and zero Big Ten wins. THAT is ALL anyone will EVER need to know. I think it is entirely possible that there might have been some nasty charges surfacing against brewboy for recruiting violations and the like if he would have been allowe to continue on his path of creating chaos, doom and destruction within the football program at the U of M. He was headed in all directions at once and was going NO WHERE. Even badger joel mactjuri had to take the keys away from him eventually and lock him out of the Bierman Building.

Sorry ole: you just plain don't get to start doing your post brewboy spin act here without being called on it. brewster totally failed and let's leave it at that. The brewboy record IS the brewboy record. Your brewboy got his butt kicked every direction he turned....and he turned in a LOT of directions. He failed. He was fired. His contract was bought out mid-season. Your brewboy was a nightmare....a bad news no count in Big Ten play. He and bjm totally blew the new stadium benefit. Left to his own devices he would most likely have had our football program totally in the crapper and might very well have messed up big-time with the NCAA. He was SUCH a loose cannon.

There ole...now we have explored the other side of your campaign to try to make your brewboy look better. There is NO WAY he can look better. He WAS what his record WAS. He had NO discipline and NO ability to coach players for success. He was exactly what his record was. Thank God we can speak of him in the past tense.

Wow.
Your getting worse now that your punching bag is gone.
I'll see it how I saw it, you keep preaching insanity and 5000 word posts on big ten wins.
The charge your making that Brewster was dirty is uncalled for and seriously classless.
You didn't like his style, but unless you have proof he was dirty keep that crap off this board.
I was trying to add some thoughtful discussion into where Brewster was trying to go and why he failed to get there. I shudder to think what in god's name you are going to complain about and spam the board with under Kill.
I'm not responding to you anymore in this thread so go ahead and get started on your 10000 word sermon on brewball.
bye bye
 

brewster totally failed and let's leave it at that.

This is coming from a man who is seemingly incapable making a post without bringing up Brewster or Mason.

O.K. I'll bite, Wren. Let's see how long you can go without high-jacking a thread and making it about Brew or Mase.
 

Have a nice day...

ole.

Trying to revise history is not the classiest act. When you "sling it" trying to make brewboy look better, the other side of the equation MUST be considered. brewboy was a disaster that bjm forced upon us. I did not appreciate bjm doing that and will not simply ignore your attempt to enhace brewboy's obituary related to his tenure at the University of Minnesota as the failed, fired and bought out gm/recruiter. He was what he was at the U of M and he no longer is at the U of M. Either let him r.i.p or if you try to revise his history there will certainly be a need to RIP his record here. Later ole...MUCH later I hope...

; 0 )
 

You Got It Wrong

ole.

Trying to revise history is not the classiest act. When you "sling it" trying to make brewboy look better, the other side of the equation MUST be considered. brewboy was a disaster that bjm forced upon us. I did not appreciate bjm doing that and will not simply ignore your attempt to enhace brewboy's obituary related to his tenure at the University of Minnesota as the failed, fired and bought out gm/recruiter. He was what he was at the U of M and he no longer is at the U of M. Either let him r.i.p or if you try to revise his history there will certainly be a need to RIP his record here. Later ole...MUCH later I hope...

; 0 )

Talk about not being a class act! Having been a loser all your life you now want to take out your frustrations on this board. You narcissistic approach to others peoples’ opinions and comments is getting really old. As I have often said, you demand that we treat Mason and Weber with respect but you don’t apply this to anybody else. You might want to think about why you have been kicked off so many blogs in the past.
 

Do what I did. Put him on your ignore list, and please, everyone else stop quoting Wren in your comments. That way, no one has to read his garbage. I just scroll by his imbedded quotes and don't read them now. I do see a lot of capitalized words. He must be worked up.
 


I actually think Brew had a plan as to what he was doing when hired here. The problem wasn't his plan - which seemingly consisted of running the spread in the hopes that the exciting offense combined with his "great" recruiting skills could attract top talent.

Brew's failed tenure was caused by one major flaw; Brew thought he could recruit to the University of Minnesota the kind of athletes you need to run a successful spread offense - where in reality, without winning big first - you cannot.

Because he realized after those first couple of classes there was no way he could viably run a spread offense good enough to compete for a BTT, he knew he had to switch philosophies and focus on the power run game. Unfortunately for him, the damage was done, and not only did we not have the personnel for the spread attack, we didn't have the tools needed for a power run offense either.
 

Is his dad-gummed chili still hot?
 

I think it is entirely possible that there might have been some nasty charges surfacing against brewboy for recruiting violations and the like if he would have been allowe to continue on his path of creating chaos, doom and destruction within the football program at the U of M.

I have been a pretty big Brewster basher the last couple years, (a little on here, mostly to anyone who would listen at or before games, at the bar...), but I have never heard any allegation that he was dirty. I have talked to a former player and he completely hated Brewster's coaching style, his temper, the way Brewster mocked the players after losses and put all the blame squarely on the players. But the player said as far as he could tell Brewster was clean - never saw his teammates with stuff they shouldn't be able to afford, saw kids in class, etc. So if you have evidence put it out there, but to just say Brewster was probably cheating based off nothing is ridiculous.
 

No, It's Lying

I have been a pretty big Brewster basher the last couple years, (a little on here, mostly to anyone who would listen at or before games, at the bar...), but I have never heard any allegation that he was dirty. I have talked to a former player and he completely hated Brewster's coaching style, his temper, the way Brewster mocked the players after losses and put all the blame squarely on the players. But the player said as far as he could tell Brewster was clean - never saw his teammates with stuff they shouldn't be able to afford, saw kids in class, etc. So if you have evidence put it out there, but to just say Brewster was probably cheating based off nothing is ridiculous.

Lakeville Goldy - It is not just ridiculous; it is lying. This is from the mouth of a guy who talks about honesty and values. He must have read Tressel's book on integrity.
 

If you see one...there very well may be more...

NCAA violations start with a few here and there...just innocent little snafus here...and there...BUT telling the truth is quite easy to do. The TRUTH is the TRUTH and the TRUTH will set you free... ; 0 )

Blog by Xtra Point Football
(August 09, 2010) in Sports / Big Ten

"...Outlook: The spring didn’t exactly bring oodles of good news to Minnesota. LB... was suspended for the spring game for DUI. Then the football program self-reported an NCAA violation in the recruitment of Seantrel Henderson, who ultimately chose USC. In terms of on-the-field, the Gophers are simplifying their offense so perhaps that will help Weber. But even more important, Minnesota must find a rushing game and get its defense to come together quickly or this could be a long, trying season..."

Many, many problems, an NCAA violation and an accurate prediction...
 

NCAA violations start with a few here and there...just innocent little snafus here...and there...BUT telling the truth is quite easy to do. The TRUTH is the TRUTH and the TRUTH will set you free... ; 0 )


"...Outlook: The spring didn’t exactly bring oodles of good news to Minnesota. LB... was suspended for the spring game for DUI. Then the football program self-reported an NCAA violation in the recruitment of Seantrel Henderson, who ultimately chose USC. In terms of on-the-field, the Gophers are simplifying their offense so perhaps that will help Weber. But even more important, Minnesota must find a rushing game and get its defense to come together quickly or this could be a long, trying season..."

Many, many problems and an accurate prediction...

The sentence I bolded was the ONLY thing that is relevant to your claim that Brewster is a cheat, and even that is a joke as it was a secondary violation, which amounted to basically a slap on the wrist and they are quite common in college football. The rest of your post is worthless filler.

Please provIDE real tangible evidence THAT Brewster is a cheat. Once AGAIn I must admit that I am CONFUSED about your tone toWArds Brewster as you are well known amongst the Gopher football fan commUNity As bEING the BIGGEST backer OF BREWball.
 




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