Exactly...this is Mad Max level dystopia.It depends which nightmare you're talking about. To me, this whole new landscape is nightmarish. It doesn't end until there are rules changes and enforcement that end it.
Exactly...this is Mad Max level dystopia.It depends which nightmare you're talking about. To me, this whole new landscape is nightmarish. It doesn't end until there are rules changes and enforcement that end it.
The Portal is eternal. It never sleeps. It never rests.When does this nightmare end, May 1st?
Just in case that's not true, Ben has about 8 days to get five more guys. So far he has one. Poor Ben.The Portal is eternal. It never sleeps. It never rests.
Right because clearly this is just a Ben Johnson and Minnesota issue. Definitely not seeing tons of players jumping into the portal all over the country.I'm glad to see Ben has developed such solid, meaningful connections and commitments from his players.
Hey Selection Sunday.....I'm still wearing my mask and am fully vaccinated.........Because my thirty year old son is fighting for his life against a rare cancer and can't get afford to even get a cold. Try thinking about someone other than yoursef for a change. I have been done with you self absorbed assholes for years!.....Sorry for using your comment Gold Vision.Must be the microchip controlling his mind. That or the main stream media.
Pretty sure you have to be in the portal by May 1st to be eligible for the upcoming season but you don't have to be committed to another school by May 1st.Just in case that's not true, Ben has about 8 days to get five more guys. So far he has one. Poor Ben.
Um no, the players have about 8 more days to enter the portal. They can sign anytime after that if they want.Just in case that's not true, Ben has about 8 days to get five more guys. So far he has one. Poor Ben.
This! The ncaa/universities are coating their pockets while essentially forcing fans to pay for the players and then blaming us if it didn't work! It's one of the greatest scams in history!I keep hearing that the NCAA should have done something sooner. The NCAA and the Universities don't mind this new system at all. They found a way to get the players paid, without them paying!! The Gophers make 100M on the BTN contract (or whatever the figure is) whether they field a competitive team or not.
Pretty sure you have to be in the portal by May 1st to be eligible for the upcoming season but you don't have to be committed to another school by May 1st.
That said, who knows what if any rules are even still in effect and I am sure someone can just sue if they want to enter the portal after May 1st and will have no trouble getting immediate eligibility because that is how things seem to work now.
It's the next float in the endless parade of money pits for the fans to throw their money down. We already pay a good amount for tickets. On top of that, they added the seat license "donations," which now you can no longer deduct from your taxes (when is a donation not a donation?). Then basically requiring people to pay to watch the games on TV, when they used to be over the air. Now we're getting turned upside down and shaken to see what still might be left in our pockets to pay for this bullshit. It's one thing to let players enjoy the preexisting fruits of their labor; it's another thing to keep shaking fans down for more and more of their hard-earned money.This! The ncaa/universities are coating their pockets while essentially forcing fans to pay for the players and then blaming us if it didn't work! It's one of the greatest scams in history!
They compete in the Big Ten. Almost every year. They aren't an easy beat year in year out. PJ gets kids to stay and kids to come here. It's not even close comparing these 2 coaches. And he has done it with a program that can be argued as one of the worst power 5 football programs of all time.Call me crazy but if Ben has more years like last year - middle of Big Ten pack and being NIT participants - wouldnt that be about the same success that PJ has had? Lets not act like PJ is putting together world-beater rosters every year here
I guess I'm just a simple guy trying to understand how this works. Since it sounds like you are in a teaching mode - help me understand. How many more coaches will it take for Coyle to turn the BB program around? Does he need 1, 2, or even 3 more BB coaches to get it right?Alright this is my last response to you because if you're going to continue to post everyday that Coyle is a bigger problem than Ben, then you are clueless. Plus you just continue to make up nonsense to try and support your terrible opinion.
If other sports at the U were having this problem then maybe I would agree with you. This is a Ben Johnson problem, and it ends there. When they hire a new, competent coach after next season, suddenly NIL won't look like such an issue.
All time??? Multiple national championships say otherwiseThey compete in the Big Ten. Almost every year. They aren't an easy beat year in year out. PJ gets kids to stay and kids to come here. It's not even close comparing these 2 coaches. And he has done it with a program that can be argued as one of the worst power 5 football programs of all time.
Just make sure you don't ever read his Twitter...Hey Selection Sunday.....I'm still wearing my mask and am fully vaccinated.........Because my thirty year old son is fighting for his life against a rare cancer and can't get afford to even get a cold. Try thinking about someone other than yoursef for a change. I have been done with you self absorbed assholes for years!.....Sorry for using your comment Gold Vision.
Yes. But Hawkins is the only notable transfer we've signed later than that.Pretty sure you have to be in the portal by May 1st to be eligible for the upcoming season but you don't have to be committed to another school by May 1st.
That said, who knows what if any rules are even still in effect and I am sure someone can just sue if they want to enter the portal after May 1st and will have no trouble getting immediate eligibility because that is how things seem to work now.
This is another example of why I don't think it is poaching, Hawkins got an agent who then reaches out to his contacts to find out what he would command in the market place, then communicates it to his client, who decides to enter the portal.
Interesting group of teams that have reached out thus far.
And? Still doesn't mean he has to fill all the open spots by May 1st. If it takes longer it takes longer. Most important part is finding the right guys, not rushing to fill spots. Johnson knows he has to win in 24/25, if he can't find the players he needs then he will get fired.Yes. But Hawkins is the only notable transfer we've signed later than that.
I mean that is still essentially poaching if it involves a player who is not in the portal. A player not in the portal shouldn't have an agent trying to find him a new deal.This is another example of why I don't think it is poaching, Hawkins got an agent who then reaches out to his contacts to find out what he would command in the market place, then communicates it to his client, who decides to enter the portal.
Mountaineer- so sorry about your son. You are doing absolutely the right thing for your situation! I've never been vaxxed but would have in your situation and likely so would have SS, who is a great poster on this site, really decent human being. His frustration and mine is that there was a mass push for people who didn't need the vax or mask to go ahead and do those things anyway. That is just as wrong as if someone belittled you for doing what you needed to do. Go in peace. SS is certainly not a self absorbed asshole from what I can see here.Hey Selection Sunday.....I'm still wearing my mask and am fully vaccinated.........Because my thirty year old son is fighting for his life against a rare cancer and can't get afford to even get a cold. Try thinking about someone other than yoursef for a change. I have been done with you self absorbed assholes for years!.....Sorry for using your comment Gold Vision.
I don't see any way they can make it work with Title IX issues.I am not sure "sucks" covers it.
The thing is, I am not sure there is a solution to fix it. We all know the schools will never "hire" the players as employees because they won't want to deal with a players union, and we know the courts seem to have no interest in allowing college sports to be what it once was. Is there any sort of middle ground we can find that will make this all work?
Unlike football what made college basketball great was while there was haves and have nots even no name schools can make a run in the tourny. Sure you might not win, but who cares making the Sweet Sixteen or Elite Eight or Final Four is still a fantastic season! All it took was a couple really good players on a veteran team and you can pull a couple upsets and become a Cinderella. Everyone loved it because everyone legit had a chance. That is going to go away as now no team is going to be veteran enough to pull that off.
Having an agent and being in the portal are two different things entirely, an agent is there to find the best NIL deal and let's face it that is through the schools collectives. The communication that goes on between the collective and the program is another issue all together, that is where the sketchiness starts in my mind but it is under the covers and almost impossible to detect in any case.I mean that is still essentially poaching if it involves a player who is not in the portal. A player not in the portal shouldn't have an agent trying to find him a new deal.
They compete in the Big Ten. Almost every year. They aren't an easy beat year in year out. PJ gets kids to stay and kids to come here. It's not even close comparing these 2 coaches. And he has done it with a program that can be argued as one of the worst power 5 football programs of all time.
There is all kinds of sketchiness built into the system for teams/players/collectives to hide behind.Having an agent and being in the portal are two different things entirely, an agent is there to find the best NIL deal and let's face it that is through the schools collectives. The communication that goes on between the collective and the program is another issue all together, that is where the sketchiness starts in my mind but it is under the covers and almost impossible to detect in any case.
Well said, and i agree wish Mountaineer the bestMountaineer- so sorry about your son. You are doing absolutely the right thing for your situation! I've never been vaxxed but would have in your situation and likely so would have SS, who is a great poster on this site, really decent human being. His frustration and mine is that there was a mass push for people who didn't need the vax or mask to go ahead and do those things anyway. That is just as wrong as if someone belittled you for doing what you needed to do. Go in peace. SS is certainly not a self absorbed asshole from what I can see here.
There is a lot left to be determined about the vax and the origins of Covid. In the meantime the best thing we can do is root for each other to do well, while we make our own decisions. Best to you!
Yeah I know...ugh this sucks.I don't see any way they can make it work with Title IX issues.
I agree but SS had to be defended there even though I get Mountaineer's situation and feel for him.Yeah I know...ugh this sucks.
Can we please leave the politics to the off topic board guys. Good lord not everything has to devolve into that crap.