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Interesting in that both the former star players were NOT highly rated. Mason is also commenting.:)
 

they just talk and still talking about Minnesota. someone said Minnesota may have gotten a steal of a signing. did not hear who that player was.
 



If anyone is interested you can go to the Big Ten Network site and see the complete interview with Brewster.

Mason went on at considerable length about the raw upside of Minnesota raised players compared to the rankings they are given. He said if you give players like Decker or Laurinitus a chance, they can be excellent players. He said he thinks Brewster is seeing that more now. He also gave a huge plug for his personal baby, TCF Bank Stadium which he called both magnificent and a huge boost to our recruiting.
 


Goldy74s said:
Mason went on at considerable length about the raw upside of Minnesota raised players compared to the rankings they are given. He said if you give players like Decker or Laurinitus a chance, they can be excellent players. He said he thinks Brewster is seeing that more now.
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Interesting comment given it took Brewster upwards of a year of fence mending with HS coaches to get to the point where he has a reasonable shot at the top in-state talent.
 

Goldy74s said:
If anyone is interested you can go to the Big Ten Network site and see the complete interview with Brewster.

Mason went on at considerable length about the raw upside of Minnesota raised players compared to the rankings they are given. He said if you give players like Decker or Laurinitus a chance, they can be excellent players. He said he thinks Brewster is seeing that more now. He also gave a huge plug for his personal baby, TCF Bank Stadium which he called both magnificent and a huge boost to our recruiting.
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Interesting that he couldn't get Laurinitis to become a Gopher.

Oh yeah, that's right. OSU was interested in Laurinitis. Wouldn't want to tick off the Buckeyes.
 

My recollection is that Laurinitis committed to the Gophers and then went to Ohio, saw what the Buckeyes had to offer and reneged on his commitment to us. Both James and his father have both publicly stated that OSU just blew them away.

Perhaps now that we have TCF, we will win a few more of those battles. If you have not been to a game at the Shoe you do not know what we are up against.
 

I can only imagine.

Which is why we should have played at the Dome for a couple of seasons while Memorial was re-habbed as opposed to going off campus for an extended period in the first place.
 



Laurinitis to OSU

Goldy74s said:
My recollection is that Laurinitis committed to the Gophers and then went to Ohio, saw what the Buckeyes had to offer and reneged on his commitment to us. Both James and his father have both publicly stated that OSU just blew them away.

Perhaps now that we have TCF, we will win a few more of those battles. If you have not been to a game at the Shoe you do not know what we are up against.
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I read that Mason also lost the coach who had done the main recruiting of Laurinitis, which probably didn't help.
 

NC 2 MN said:
I read that Mason also lost the coach who had done the main recruiting of Laurinitis, which probably didn't help.
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Not to mention you need to continue to recruit players that have already committed so that they don't get cold feet and look for greener pastures. The word is that after Lauranitis committed the Gophers stopped wooing him.
 

grunkiejr said:
Not to mention you need to continue to recruit players that have already committed so that they don't get cold feet and look for greener pastures. The word is that after Lauranitis committed the Gophers stopped wooing him.
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Which appears to be the reason Carter just switched to us.
 

Mason's comments about Minnesota players being late bloomers makes a lot of sense. It is actually fairly similar to Fitzgerald's comments the other day at the Superbowl in which he said he didn't blossom until he got in to a college weight training program. The reality is tha the coaching and the focus on HS football is not the same in Minnesota as it is in Texas so our HS players have a lot of catching up to do which they generally do in college.
 



NC 2 MN said:
I read that Mason also lost the coach who had done the main recruiting of Laurinitis, which probably didn't help.
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And the assistant coach area is the one place I will give Mason a break. Maturi has given Brewster a much better budget for assistant coaches, which should lead to greater retention in the long run.
 

50PoundHead said:
And the assistant coach area is the one place I will give Mason a break. Maturi has given Brewster a much better budget for assistant coaches, which should lead to greater retention in the long run.
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Actually Brewster is making less than half of what Mason did freeing up money for assistant coaches.
 

harrys ghost said:
Which appears to be the reason Carter just switched to us.
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Oh for pete's sake! Have you been to a Big Ten game at OSU? If Charlize Theron wants you and "shows you around her place" Ugly Betty is going to have a hard time holding on to you.

We have a long, long, long way to go to be able to put on a gameday show with the heavy hitters. TCF will help. So would one half the fans Ohio State puts in their stadium every game.:(
 

Goldy74s said:
Oh for pete's sake! Have you been to a Big Ten game at OSU? If Charlize Theron wants you and "shows you around her place" Ugly Betty is going to have a hard time holding on to you.

We have a long, long, long way to go to be able to put on a gameday show with the heavy hitters. TCF will help. So would one half the fans Ohio State puts in their stadium every game.:(
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Yeah, Columbus is such a garden spot. :rolleyes:
 

Game day at the 'Shoe' is not in the same league as game day at the Dome by a factor of what?

Three? Four? 3.543? Go to a game at the Shoe and then come back here and run your mouth about that would not impress you. Talk about hicks from the sticks!! Don't brag about it.
 

Goldy74s said:
Game day at the 'Shoe' is not in the same league as game day at the Dome by a factor of what?

Three? Four? 3.543? Go to a game at the Shoe and then come back here and run your mouth about that would not impress you. Talk about hicks from the sticks!! Don't brag about it.
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What are you even talking about right now? What is message is this replying to?
 

JL was going to MN, but Mase told the Wayzata coach he wanted JL to play DE his senior season. Didn't think he had the speed to play LB. JL wanted to play LB. OSU came calling. Goodbye JL.
 


That Columbus is a garden spot.

The recruits go to a game on game day. Neither Columbus nor Minneapolis is a garden spot. What they see is gameday and all that goes with it. We are not within 100 miles of what they see at OSU. Thus, a logical recruit might be wowed by that experience, not the garden experience of Columbus.

Duh?
 

Goldy74s said:
That Columbus is a garden spot.

The recruits go to a game on game day. Neither Columbus nor Minneapolis is a garden spot. What they see is gameday and all that goes with it. We are not within 100 miles of what they see at OSU. Thus, a logical recruit might be wowed by that experience, not the garden experience of Columbus.

Duh?
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So Loon, how much time do football players spend at home games? How much time do they spend around campus? How much time do they spend off campus? Yeah, the game day experience is everything. :rolleyes:
 

There is a lot more to the real story and what both James and his father thought of Coach Mason. You, of course, would not be interested in the real story.
 

Goldy74s said:
Oh for pete's sake! Have you been to a Big Ten game at OSU? If Charlize Theron wants you and "shows you around her place" Ugly Betty is going to have a hard time holding on to you.

We have a long, long, long way to go to be able to put on a gameday show with the heavy hitters. TCF will help. So would one half the fans Ohio State puts in their stadium every game.:(
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The comments of his parents (mom especially) once James got to OSU put the fault more on Mason for taking his commitment for granted rather than him being so blown away that he had to switch. I agree that OSU has some major advantages but that didn't seem to be the deciding factor in this case.
 

Ozzy&Ray said:
There is a lot more to the real story and what both James and his father thought of Coach Mason. You, of course, would not be interested in the real story.
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Exactly. Perhaps he considers this story to be unreal like recruiting stars. I'll work on investigating to see if the palpable dislike of Mason that JL's mom has displayed can be quantified as an integer. :p
 

I will stick to my original statement. If you have not been to a football game at the Shoe you do not know what you are talking about. If you have been to such a game and think it is likely that a recruit would see the advantage of Gopher football, please say so.

TCF could help if we grow some fans who can invest four hours from their so busy schedules. I can tell you from experience there are a ton of such fans at the Shoe on college game days.
 

Goldy74s said:
I will stick to my original statement. If you have not been to a football game at the Shoe you do not know what you are talking about. If you have been to such a game and think it is likely that a recruit would see the advantage of Gopher football, please say so.

TCF could help if we grow some fans who can invest four hours from their so busy schedules. I can tell you from experience there are a ton of such fans at the Shoe on college game days.
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This is so asinine. If a recruit is selecting based ONLY on gameday atmosphere then I would say OSU has a distinct advantage (and yes, I've enjoyed a game at the Shoe before). But recruiting is a cumulative process. Someone can be wowed by a gameday atmosphere but for most recruits, or at least for any recruit who is thinking things through, there are other factors. The advantages of a program are not based solely on the gameday atmosphere like you maintain.

Its like asking me if I would choose job A or job B. Job A offers me a bunch more money a year. But I would also have to travel 6 days a week, endure a high stress level, and have poor medical coverage. If we looked only at salaries then Job A would be the winner. But what if I hate travel, or don't like stress, or have medical needs. Perhaps a cumulative look makes more sense?

OSU, Mich, etc have many things to offer that the U cannot. But the reverse is also true. Rant over because I know you enjoy being a hard-headed BS artist and I don't expect logic to make a dent in warped view of the world.

PS: I'd love it if you explained to me how Minnesota is disadvantaged because the Sun revolves around the Earth, all evidence to the contrary.
 

GoAUpher said:
This is so asinine. If a recruit is selecting based ONLY on gameday atmosphere then I would say OSU has a distinct advantage (and yes, I've enjoyed a game at the Shoe before). But recruiting is a cumulative process. Someone can be wowed by a gameday atmosphere but for most recruits, or at least for any recruit who is thinking things through, there are other factors. The advantages of a program are not based solely on the gameday atmosphere like you maintain.

Its like asking me if I would choose job A or job B. Job A offers me a bunch more money a year. But I would also have to travel 6 days a week, endure a high stress level, and have poor medical coverage. If we looked only at salaries then Job A would be the winner. But what if I hate travel, or don't like stress, or have medical needs. Perhaps a cumulative look makes more sense?

OSU, Mich, etc have many things to offer that the U cannot. But the reverse is also true. Rant over because I know you enjoy being a hard-headed BS artist and I don't expect logic to make a dent in warped view of the world.

PS: I'd love it if you explained to me how Minnesota is disadvantaged because the Sun revolves around the Earth, all evidence to the contrary.
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GoAUpher, being "trapped in Madison", you should be uniquely qualified at trading off game day experience compared to day to day living. I'm not trying to imply anything negative about Madison but life in a typical college town is a different experience. Some people really like it. Others not so much. In Carter's case he is about 20 miles North of Miami. I would think Morgantown, WV would be a bit of a culture shock. I think one of the things Brewster has in his sales kit is the contrast between Minneapolis and a typical college town. Depending on the recruit, this could be a big plus for us.
 

harrys ghost said:
GoAUpher, being "trapped in Madison", you should be uniquely qualified at trading off game day experience compared to day to day living. I'm not trying to imply anything negative about Madison but life in a typical college town is a different experience. Some people really like it. Others not so much. In Carter's case he is about 20 miles North of Miami. I would think Morgantown, WV would be a bit of a culture shock. I think one of the things Brewster has in his sales kit is the contrast between Minneapolis and a typical college town. Depending on the recruit, this could be a big plus for us.
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+1. It almost seems like you used logic or some part of your brain to rationally consider all alternative solutions. :) I applaud you for bewitching me with your evil trickery. We can only hope that 74's won't be fooled by your deceptive ways and will keep telling us all how his way is the ONLY way. :p
 

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