Big Ten quarterbacks ranked by Total QBR after Week 7 of 2024 season (12. Max Brosmer (Minnesota))

[BleedGopher]

Per Seth:

12. Max Brosmer (Minnesota)

Total QBR: 59.5

Week 7 Stats: 26 of 37 passing, 192 yards, 2 touchdowns, 0 interceptions, 65.4 QBR

Season Stats: 143 of 210 passing, 1,456 yards, 8 touchdowns, 4 interceptions, 47 carries, minus-16 rushing yards, 4 rushing touchdowns

Badgers Wire Ranking: No. 12

Brosmer led Minnesota to a narrow road victory over UCLA on Saturday night. His play left a bit to be desired as the Gophers struggled to score until the third quarter. It feels as if Brosmer has another gear he hasn't been able to reach thus far with Minnesota. The next few weeks will show if that ceiling exists.

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Go Gophers!!

 

[MonikerSchmoniker45]

I think they said on GGR that his receivers lead the league in drops.

 

[PMWinSTP]

When it was needed down the stretch at UCLA, Max delivered some great passes. Jackson also made some great catches.

 

[Word]

I don't know the qbr formula, but I will take 68% passing and very few INT any day. When the offense has struggled it's usually due to no running game and lack of time to pass. It's not like Brosmer has been missing wide open receivers often. He's been clutch 2nd half vs Michigan, UCLA, and USC.

 

[Gopherchase]

I’m calling bullshit on 12th in the conference the kid has shown great balls and poise and second-half of games and when given the opportunity to perform he pretty much has.

 

[Taji34]

I don't know the qbr formula, but I will take 68% passing and very few INT any day. When the offense has struggled it's usually due to no running game and lack of time to pass. It's not like Brosmer has been missing wide open receivers often. He's been clutch 2nd half vs Michigan, UCLA, and USC.

I don't know the formula either, but I'm sure # of attempts and the yards per attempt influence the score a decent amount.

So a QB who has the same # of attempts and same completion percentage who had wide receivers who got a lot of yards after the catch might have a higher rating than a QB who's receivers had less yards after catch. Potentially as well, a QB with the same completion percentage and similar yards per pass, but way more attempts would have a higher score than a QB with less attempts. I could be completely wrong though.

I would love to see these mid season QBR rankings in context with other stats like total number of attempts, total yards, yards per attempt, etc to paint a full picture.

As well, there are some intangibles that aren't captured by QBR (some of which others mentioned above). If you are a QB with NFL grade receivers who can catch anything and can get separatiln consistently, or your OC runs plays that consistently result in your first look being open then you have an "easier" job as a QB versus a QB who has to frequently progress through his reads and throw to the 3rd or 4th read often. That first QB with an "easier" job might then have a higher QBR than the QB with the "harder" job. Obviously both QBs have to execute, and it's possible to have an "easy" job as a QB and still have a low QBR.

However, again, I don't know how QBR is calculated and perhaps it does attempt to compensate for some of these "intangible" differences (maybe by including time spent in the pocket, or average time between the snap and the pass, etc).

 

[forever a gopher]

I don't know the qbr formula, but I will take 68% passing and very few INT any day. When the offense has struggled it's usually due to no running game and lack of time to pass. It's not like Brosmer has been missing wide open receivers often. He's been clutch 2nd half vs Michigan, UCLA, and USC.

If Geers catches the ball that hit him right in the hands on the first drive of the UCLA game on the absolute dime thrown by Brosmer, I think the tone of that game changes. But they started out losing the field position battle and let UCLA get some confidence. Brosmer's OL hasn't done him too many favors. He hasn't been perfect, but considering the QB play Gopher fans have seen over the past 30+ years, I'll take Brosmer in a heartbeat any time.

 

[Dakota2]

I don't know the qbr formula, but I will take 68% passing and very few INT any day. When the offense has struggled it's usually due to no running game and lack of time to pass. It's not like Brosmer has been missing wide open receivers often. He's been clutch 2nd half vs Michigan, UCLA, and USC.

I have only one minor concern with Max. When he is flushed out of the pocket and running for his life to the right, he tends to throw it away on the right sideline.

Definitely, the smarts to throw one away to avoid a sack is an important mark of a veteran quarterback. But I would like to see him take a look towards the middle of the field.

Once in a while when a QB is on the run to escape the rush, receivers have a chance to break off their routes and come back to help out. Sometimes a defensive back gets lost with all the twists and turns.

He has great vision so maybe he is actually doing that before lofting the ball out of bounds. Not sure.

 

[Dakota2]

I’m calling bullshit on 12th in the conference the kid has shown great balls and poise and second-half of games and when given the opportunity to perform he pretty much has.

It is bullshit. There are not many -- any? -- ranked above him I would rather have.

 

[Ski-U-Ham]

I have only one minor concern with Max. When he is flushed out of the pocket and running for his life to the right, he tends to throw it away on the right sideline.

Definitely, the smarts to throw one away to avoid a sack is an important mark of a veteran quarterback. But I would like to see him take a look towards the middle of the field.

Once in a while when a QB is on the run to escape the rush, receivers have a chance to break off their routes and come back to help out. Sometimes a defensive back gets lost with all the twists and turns.

He has great vision so maybe he is actually doing that before lofting the ball out of bounds. Not sure.

Very few QBs, NFL included, have the ability to scramble to their right and throw back across their body to the middle of the field. More likely for something bad to happen than good. I'm assuming he, like most QBs, is being coached to throw the ball away and live to play another down.

 

[Gophergrandpa]

If Geers catches the ball that hit him right in the hands on the first drive of the UCLA game on the absolute dime thrown by Brosmer, I think the tone of that game changes. But they started out losing the field position battle and let UCLA get some confidence. Brosmer's OL hasn't done him too many favors. He hasn't been perfect, but considering the QB play Gopher fans have seen over the past 30+ years, I'll take Brosmer in a heartbeat any time.

In 6 games, Gopher receivers have dropped 11 catchable downfield passes. Worst in the B1G, I believe (and 9th worse in the nation per recent article). As a result--low success rate on very catchable downfield balls--I suspect PJ and Harbaugh have probably dialed back on downfield pass attempts. This no doubt has affected Brosmer's ranking. Hard to be one of the top QBs in the B1G when you aren't completing downfield explosive passing plays. I think Brosmer is doing great for the short and mid-pass range he's primarily being used in. Hard for Brosemer to take the next step up the rankings ladder unless and until our receivers (other than DJ9) start catching downfield throws that hit them in the hands.