Big Ten details 24-team CFP plan with no league title games

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PMWinSTP said:
Seems a little odd if that's to the case. A 16 beating a 1 in a straight up 16 seed bracket is infinitely small, but it didn't happen in the BB tournament until it did. I can totally see a 3 seed getting beat by a 14 with some regularity, and so on.

I think it would be a fantastic tournament with 16 teams.
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No the issue isn’t about if it’s a good tourney at 16
The issue is the big ten commissioner wants to end conference title games and 16 doesn’t cover the losses of the championship game so need 24
 

Some guy said:
No the issue isn’t about if it’s a good tourney at 16
The issue is the big ten commissioner wants to end conference title games and 16 doesn’t cover the losses of the championship game so need 24
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Which I said seems odd.
 


24 is way too many. CFB is not like NFL, the talent and depth differential between #1-4 and #21-24 are bigger than the top and bottom NFL playoff seeds.

Think about the teams ranked around 18-24 at the end of every regular season. What is the chance that those teams are going to win more than one, much less 4 games in a row against top 15 opponents? It’s multiplying probabilities - probably 1%.
 

The problem with any CFP playoff plan is not with any plan it is with the ranking system. The SEC had 7 teams ranked in the top 16. The Big Ten obviously the superior conference had 4. No system can't make up for the SEC biases. Ideally have a big ten vs sec 3-6 playin games but the SEC has no incentive to do that.
 


Gopher Mac said:
The problem with any CFP playoff plan is not with any plan it is with the ranking system. The SEC had 7 teams ranked in the top 16. The Big Ten obviously the superior conference had 4. No system can't make up for the SEC biases. Ideally have a big ten vs sec 3-6 playin games but the SEC has no incentive to do that.
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Agree
 

Catechol said:
24 is way too many. CFB is not like NFL, the talent and depth differential between #1-4 and #21-24 are bigger than the top and bottom NFL playoff seeds.

Think about the teams ranked around 18-24 at the end of every regular season. What is the chance that those teams are going to win more than one, much less 4 games in a row against top 15 opponents? It’s multiplying probabilities - probably 1%.
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They play in the regular season, should we get rid of those games too?

I just don’t get this argument.
You don’t want blow outs? But they already play these types of teams all year
They don’t have a chance? Then they’ll lose so what’s the harm?



The argument that I get and the argument that works is the argument expansion of at large bids devalues the regular season.
 

Been beating that drum regarding the conference championship game for a bit now...It's completely pointless already in the 12-team playoffs.

Kind of feels like 24-team playoff will essentially kill bowl games. Can't imagine most fans would travel for that many playoff games (if various bowls still hosted in neutral stadiums).
 

Catechol said:
24 is way too many. CFB is not like NFL, the talent and depth differential between #1-4 and #21-24 are bigger than the top and bottom NFL playoff seeds.

Think about the teams ranked around 18-24 at the end of every regular season. What is the chance that those teams are going to win more than one, much less 4 games in a row against top 15 opponents? It’s multiplying probabilities - probably 1%.
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The first round bye for top 8 while the bottom 16 play is tacit admission nobody really expects or respects those teams as championship material (despite 2025 Miami’s late season resurrection). The sole reasons are revenue $ and probably more importantly for PE salesperson Pettiti the valuation of the enterprise. The real money (for him).

If 24 why not 32? More games, more revenue, no byes.. Makes more sense than 24.
 



Pompous Elitist said:
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The first round bye for top 8 while the bottom 16 play is tacit admission nobody really expects or respects those teams as championship material (despite 2025 Miami’s late season resurrection). The sole reasons are revenue $ and probably more importantly for PE salesperson Pettiti the valuation of the enterprise. The real money (for him).

If 24 why not 32? More games, more revenue, no byes.. Makes more sense than 24.
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I think 24 giving the top 8 a bye does help the regular season mean more than 32 would

I would love to see 12 with 11 conference title auto bids.
But a conference loses its auto bid if they aren’t in the AP Top 25.

The committee picks the seeds and the at large.

I feel that will never happen
 

Some guy said:
I’m not sure how that seems odd
The big ten recoups 100% of the big ten title game

The big ten recoups as little as 0% of 2 more playoff games


Seems pretty obvious
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Seems odd to want to jettison the championship game.
 


The 24 team CFP will take 5 weekends to play for 16 teams. I don’t think many fan bases will travel well to all games.

Nothing like empty seats in a stadium to help create an exciting atmosphere. /s

I think a 16 team playoff should be tried before 24 teams. There will be fewer challenges, plus they’ll get a better idea of fan support and revenue streams. Petitti and the other commissioners should be smart enough to make it work.

Since rankings will always be biased, I like the idea of conferences having a minimum guaranteed slots. I don’t know if that number is 3 or 4 for the B1G and SEC, but it makes sense they should have more based on they are the two leagues driving the revenue for everyone.
 



Catechol said:
24 is way too many. CFB is not like NFL, the talent and depth differential between #1-4 and #21-24 are bigger than the top and bottom NFL playoff seeds.

Think about the teams ranked around 18-24 at the end of every regular season. What is the chance that those teams are going to win more than one, much less 4 games in a row against top 15 opponents? It’s multiplying probabilities - probably 1%.
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~48 of the 68 teams in the NCAA basketball tournament have zero chance to win it. They still cherish making it and it's still fun to watch.
 




howeda7 said:
Why?
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A football team has at least 4 times as many players, and at least double if not triple the staff. Football games are longer and played at separate facilities, where basketball has at least 4 teams sharing the same venue.

It’s just a lot easier to have more basketball teams than football teams in the post season.
 

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