Ben Johnson is a Disaster

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Bob_Loblaw said:
He should have had something nice to say.

We gave him a job he never was close to qualifying for and paid him a salary exponentially more than he is worth. He didn't have the insight or the graciousness to go out like a man. He owed us nothing. I never implied he owed us anything contractually.

We gave him an unearned opportunity of a life time and he fumbled the bag. When we corrected that error, he pouted and showed absolutely no graciousness. To me, that's cowardly and entitled.

It's also bizarre that there are people referring to folks as "Fire Ben Johnson" herd. He was awful here and people were just right about him. It's like saying "can you believe those yahoos who predicted the 2008 housing crisis." The herd was right.

We gave him the best opportunity of his life. We paid him more money than he's ever made in his life.
He failed, catastrophically, and is a coward about it that he couldn't show gratitude? Yep, the dude's a coward. The extent of his failure is less and less surprising the more you learn about him.
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Let it go he took his Lane Kiffin esque firing on the tarmac like a man, and hasn't trashed the U or anyone since. If anything it shows restraint that he can stay off twitter. Wish our President could do the same.
 

howeda7 said:
To be fair, Ben achieved 4.5% of his career win total in game 2 and they will both likely be 1-1 after 2 games.
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I guess will see if 2026 Indiana makes the sweet 16 like 2022 Michigan. Kinda doubt it. I am thinking Niko will finish with more than four big ten wins though
 



Gopheritnow said:
Going out like a coward? Seriously? Leaving aside whether he should have had another year or not, the way Coyle handled this with the Midnight Flight, and the Airport Ambush certainly left Johnson with no debt to the U.

I doubt anything he said would have been complimentary to the administration, so he followed the "if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything"! He did what I would have done, took the money and went home.

Once Coyle made him a non employee of the U, he owed the U nothing whatsoever. The U on the other hand owed him contractually some several millions of dollars, which I hope he enjoys and spends wisely. While he might have not been the right man for the job, Coyle hired him, and did little to support him, especially after NIL hit.

As for the fans, and GH fans especially, he owes nothing whatsoever. Whether we like it or not, his contractual obligations to the U ended at the airport that night! And any minsicule or PR related response would rightfully be muted by the bellowing of the "Fire Ben Johnson" herd on GH!
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Bob is on the weirdest crusade here.

Let's all agree for arguments sake, Ben wasn't qualified for the job.

Anyone can apply for a job. I think most professionals, myself included, have thrown our hat in the ring for a position that may be a rung or two above the next logical step. It was the U's fault for interviewing him and the U's fault for ultimately hiring him.

Why does Ben owe something to us for the U's mistake? If I would have been hired for a job I shouldn't have, it's not like I owe the shareholders an explanation.....no, the company owes an explanation for their poor choice.
 







pharmacygopher said:
Bob is on the weirdest crusade here.

Let's all agree for arguments sake, Ben wasn't qualified for the job.

Anyone can apply for a job. I think most professionals, myself included, have thrown our hat in the ring for a position that may be a rung or two above the next logical step. It was the U's fault for interviewing him and the U's fault for ultimately hiring him.

Why does Ben owe something to us for the U's mistake? If I would have been hired for a job I shouldn't have, it's not like I owe the shareholders an explanation.....no, the company owes an explanation for their poor choice.
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I think Bob is a fun poster and its awesome he has such a grudge here. Although I have no idea why.
 

pharmacygopher said:
Bob is on the weirdest crusade here.

Let's all agree for arguments sake, Ben wasn't qualified for the job.

Anyone can apply for a job. I think most professionals, myself included, have thrown our hat in the ring for a position that may be a rung or two above the next logical step. It was the U's fault for interviewing him and the U's fault for ultimately hiring him.

Why does Ben owe something to us for the U's mistake? If I would have been hired for a job I shouldn't have, it's not like I owe the shareholders an explanation.....no, the company owes an explanation for their poor choice.
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How am I on any crusade? Your posting on the same subject that I am posting on. I didn't start a thread ripping on Ben, I don't shoehorn my opinion into discussions that are completely irrelevant to the topic. We are talking about Ben Johnson on this thread and I think how he's carried himself since being fired is cowardly. You disagree. Ok. But I'm no more a crusader on the topic than you are.

That's an idiot's argument (not calling you an idiot) where you pretend that I must be a fanatic crazy person to have an opinion that differs from yours.

As for the substance of your post, I never blamed Ben for applying for the job and taking the job. That was entirely on the U. Of course he's going to take it. Anyone would.

Ben doesn't have a contractual obligation to say anything. Very few things in life that people SHOULD do are contractually obligated. The vast majority of the things in life people SHOULD do are customs, manners, and common sense.

As to your analogy about the shareholders, nope, you wouldn't owe them anything. However, if you were hired by a company that gave you your only chance, the best chance in your life, paid you more money than you've ever been paid and simply did not work out, yeah, I think you should do the right thing and show gratitude, especially when that job is as public-facing as his.

You disagree. That's okay. Every other coach I can think of has done it except Ben Johnson, so I'm not saying anything wild here.
 



TwistingMyMelon said:
Certainly not the first time. I don't remember the last time I read one of his posts. He'll continue arguing meaningless points ad nauseum while becoming increasingly overbearing as he goes.
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Twisting is upset that was literally wrong about everything for 4 years and we all laughed at him.

He may have gotten this one right and you read every one of my posts. Every single one.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
How am I on any crusade? Your posting on the same subject that I am posting on. I didn't start a thread ripping on Ben, I don't shoehorn my opinion into discussions that are completely irrelevant to the topic. We are talking about Ben Johnson on this thread and I think how he's carried himself since being fired is cowardly. You disagree. Ok. But I'm no more a crusader on the topic than you are.

That's an idiot's argument (not calling you an idiot) where you pretend that I must be a fanatic crazy person to have an opinion that differs from yours.

As for the substance of your post, I never blamed Ben for applying for the job and taking the job. That was entirely on the U. Of course he's going to take it. Anyone would.

Ben doesn't have a contractual obligation to say anything. Very few things in life that people SHOULD do are contractually obligated. The vast majority of the things in life people SHOULD do are customs, manners, and common sense.

As to your analogy about the shareholders, nope, you wouldn't owe them anything. However, if you were hired by a company that gave you your only chance, the best chance in your life, paid you more money than you've ever been paid and simply did not work out, yeah, I think you should do the right thing and show gratitude, especially when that job is as public-facing as his.

You disagree. That's okay. Every other coach I can think of has done it except Ben Johnson, so I'm not saying anything wild here.
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I think Ben needs to call The Barrister personally to thank him for the opportunity of a lifetime.
 

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