Ben Johnson is a Disaster

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Ski-U-Ham said:
We can keep this thread going forever if we all continue to demand that it be shut down immediately!
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Not so fast. First, we must decide which approach is appropriate for shutting the thread down.

1)The Lawyerly Approach:
Hold on, first you should define immediately.

Does that mean now? Can’t, then you wouldn’t be able to answer.

Does immediately mean, within a reasonable timeframe; but what is a reasonable timeframe?

2) The Philosophical Approach:
While I agree this must be shut down - the past is but a formality. The shut down shall commence, as soon as we choose. However, do we ever really choose or is choice just a collection of things thrust upon us?

3) The Progressive Approach:
We must loathe ourselves and feel bad for our collective historical trauma.
 

















howeda7 said:
Some folks here would have fired him after week 2.
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Ben should have never been hired. The reason is exactly what is happening with Niko. When this happened to Ben it was easy to doubt that Ben could ever get the job done here because there was zero track record from the past that showed he could. With Niko there is a track record and I am confident that he can get the job done, even when things don't look good. It was an awful spot to put Ben in.
 








Bob_Loblaw said:
Going out like a coward isn't going to help his future prospects. So yeah, he made a bad bet on his future when all he had to gain was a slightly less bruised ego.
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Going out like a coward? Seriously? Leaving aside whether he should have had another year or not, the way Coyle handled this with the Midnight Flight, and the Airport Ambush certainly left Johnson with no debt to the U.

I doubt anything he said would have been complimentary to the administration, so he followed the "if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything"! He did what I would have done, took the money and went home.

Once Coyle made him a non employee of the U, he owed the U nothing whatsoever. The U on the other hand owed him contractually some several millions of dollars, which I hope he enjoys and spends wisely. While he might have not been the right man for the job, Coyle hired him, and did little to support him, especially after NIL hit.

As for the fans, and GH fans especially, he owes nothing whatsoever. Whether we like it or not, his contractual obligations to the U ended at the airport that night! And any minsicule or PR related response would rightfully be muted by the bellowing of the "Fire Ben Johnson" herd on GH!
 
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Gopheritnow said:
Going out like a coward? Seriously? Leaving aside whether he should have had another year or not, the way Coyle handled this with the Midnight Flight, and the Airport Ambush certainly left Johnson with no debt to the U.

I doubt anything he said would have been complimentary to the administration, so he followed the "if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything"! He did what I would have done, took the money and went home.

Once Coyle made him a non employee of the U, he owed the U nothing whatsoever. The U on the other hand owed him contractually some several millions of dollars, which I hope he enjoys and spends wisely. While he might have not been the right man for the job, Coyle hired him, and did little to support him, especially after NIL hit.

As for the fans, and GH fans especially, he owes nothing whatsoever. Whether we like it or not, his contractual obligations to the U ended at the airport that night! And any minsicule or PR related response would rightfully be muted by the bellowing of the "Fire Ben Johnson" herd on GH!
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He should have had something nice to say.

We gave him a job he never was close to qualifying for and paid him a salary exponentially more than he is worth. He didn't have the insight or the graciousness to go out like a man. He owed us nothing. I never implied he owed us anything contractually.

We gave him an unearned opportunity of a life time and he fumbled the bag. When we corrected that error, he pouted and showed absolutely no graciousness. To me, that's cowardly and entitled.

It's also bizarre that there are people referring to folks as "Fire Ben Johnson" herd. He was awful here and people were just right about him. It's like saying "can you believe those yahoos who predicted the 2008 housing crisis." The herd was right.

We gave him the best opportunity of his life. We paid him more money than he's ever made in his life.
He failed, catastrophically, and is a coward about it that he couldn't show gratitude? Yep, the dude's a coward. The extent of his failure is less and less surprising the more you learn about him.
 



Bob_Loblaw said:
He should have had something nice to say.

We gave him a job he never was close to qualifying for and paid him a salary exponentially more than he is worth. He didn't have the insight or the graciousness to go out like a man. He owed us nothing. I never implied he owed us anything contractually.

We gave him an unearned opportunity of a life time and he fumbled the bag. When we corrected that error, he pouted and showed absolutely no graciousness. To me, that's cowardly and entitled.

It's also bizarre that there are people referring to folks as "Fire Ben Johnson" herd. He was awful here and people were just right about him. It's like saying "can you believe those yahoos who predicted the 2008 housing crisis." The herd was right.

We gave him the best opportunity of his life. We paid him more money than he's ever made in his life.
He failed, catastrophically, and is a coward about it that he couldn't show gratitude? Yep, the dude's a coward. The extent of his failure is less and less surprising the more you learn about him.
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Maybe he went out like his own man. Quietly as a private person, which he now is. But let’s pretend he released a statement or did a presser? Anyone who thinks that would satiate the "Fire Ben Johnson" herd hasn’t been following this thread of 178 pages! Those who think he "owes" us anything after Coyle fired him really is only interested in more blood in the water!
 

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