AP Poll 10-12-14

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Others Receiving Votes: UCLA (4-2) 110; LSU (5-2) 67; Duke (5-1) 45; Minnesota (5-1) 36; Kentucky (5-1) 36; West Virginia (4-2) 27; Washington (5-1) 22; Georgia Tech (5-1) 11; Arkansas (3-3) 10; Rutgers (5-1) 7; Louisville (5-2) 7; Iowa (5-1) 6; Colorado State (5-1) 3; North Dakota State (6-0) 3; Virginia (4-2) 1; Wisconsin (4-2) 1; South Carolina (3-3) 1
 

These polls...make my head hurt. Year in, year out.

Expand the Playoff.
 

Mississippi State, Ole Miss and Baylor in the Top 5? Wow. Prior to this year has that EVER happened?
 

What's funny is Michigan St. is up at the top with the same record at the gophers….and each has a big loss to teams that are ranked about the same: Oregon and TCU. Neither has any win that would account for the difference. That's the kind of thing that makes these polls so bad…they rely too much on reputation and not enough on play this year.
 

NDSU with more points than Wisky. Awesome!!!
 


CoMn said:
What's funny is Michigan St. is up at the top with the same record at the gophers….and each has a big loss to teams that are ranked about the same: Oregon and TCU. Neither has any win that would account for the difference. That's the kind of thing that makes these polls so bad…they rely too much on reputation and not enough on play this year.
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Come on. You cannot be serious.
 

Good thing they are (mostly) just for fun now.
 

CoMn said:
What's funny is Michigan St. is up at the top with the same record at the gophers….and each has a big loss to teams that are ranked about the same: Oregon and TCU. Neither has any win that would account for the difference. That's the kind of thing that makes these polls so bad…they rely too much on reputation and not enough on play this year.
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They have to rely on reputation and talent on paper. How else do you make a poll 2 games into the conference season?

The problem is how seriously people take these polls. They are not the definitive answer. They're just a reference and mostly for fun until mid November.
 

I wish the playoff committee would have stuck to their guns and not released a poll. The selection process should be the same as the basketball (and every other sport) selection process....completely independent of any poll.


It will be funny when Espn freaks out because the playoff consists of 4 teams ranked as #1, #2, #5, and #8 and they realize their ranting all year doesn't mean anything,
 



If anyone is under the illusion that the CFB playoff won't be as rigged as the bowl selections have always been prepare for angst. The Survivor-style wheeling and dealing will assuredly be hot and heavy.

I'm in the crew that thinks only 4 teams, selected by career hobnobber politician types will create more controversy than the BcS system ever did. At least there was an impartial computer factor in the BCS rankings that seemed more accurate than the usual suspects.

In lieu of a real playoff pitting conference champions vs each other (and even keeping the BCS rankings as a factor in seeding) they should have just kept the BCS and expanded the number of teams.

Buckle your seat belts.
 

Pompous Elitist said:
If anyone is under the illusion that the CFB playoff won't be as rigged as the bowl selections have always been prepare for angst. The Survivor-style wheeling and dealing will assuredly be hot and heavy.

I'm in the crew that thinks only 4 teams, selected by career hobnobber politician types will create more controversy than the BcS system ever did. At least there was an impartial computer factor in the BCS rankings that seemed more accurate than the usual suspects.

In lieu of a real playoff pitting conference champions vs each other (and even keeping the BCS rankings as a factor in seeding) they should have just kept the BCS and expanded the number of teams.

Buckle your seat belts.
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I still think the best system would be the BCS selecting 8 teams. The BCS wasn't the problem for most people, the problem was having really good teams lose one game late in the season and be kicked out of the championship game because of when they lost.
 

What college football really needs is something more relevant and insightful than weekly "polls" of people who have no clue.

These same voters gave Mississippi State NO votes just a few weeks ago. We could say they thoroughly rue-evaluate the teams a few weeks into the season.... But they don't. They still have teams ranked in the Top 20 from the preseason poll that are now there just because they were in the beginning. The poll is almost entirely meaningless, and it is talked about endlessly in college football.

We need something better.
 

Goldmember said:
What college football really needs is something more relevant and insightful than weekly "polls" of people who have no clue.

These same voters gave Mississippi State NO votes just a few weeks ago. We could say they thoroughly rue-evaluate the teams a few weeks into the season.... But they don't. They still have teams ranked in the Top 20 from the preseason poll that are now there just because they were in the beginning. The poll is almost entirely meaningless, and it is talked about endlessly in college football.

We need something better.
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But we don't. The only thing that matters is the final 4. Everything else is just entertainment.

Anything else would be just as meaningless.
 



You should have to win your conference to get in a 4-team playoff. Earn it on the field.
 

afurry91 said:
I still think the best system would be the BCS selecting 8 teams. The BCS wasn't the problem for most people, the problem was having really good teams lose one game late in the season and be kicked out of the championship game because of when they lost.
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I'm fine with 8 as long as the first round is at the higher seed. Still makes every game extremely important. Plus I'd like to see an SEC have to travel north and play a game in the cold for once.
 

GophersInIowa said:
I'm fine with 8 as long as the first round is at the higher seed. Still makes every game extremely important. Plus I'd like to see an SEC have to travel north and play a game in the cold for once.
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I agree. But, the southern wimps couldn't handle it.
 

Desmond is finally giving us some love in his rankings. We slid in at #24
 

This season is convincing me that an 8-team playoff is the way to go. Would cover the best of both worlds. 5 automatic bids + any other 3. The major conference champs then are automatically rewarded (not the case now), yet there'd still be room for 3 at-larges. Too simple. They should be able to figure out a way to make it work.
 

SelectionSunday said:
This season is convincing me that an 8-team playoff is the way to go. Would cover the best of both worlds. 5 automatic bids + any other 3. The major conference champs then are automatically rewarded (not the case now), yet there'd still be room for 3 at-larges. Too simple. They should be able to figure out a way to make it work.
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I give it 5 years
 

Hilarious we are throwing out the new system before the first year is halfway complete.
 


Winasota Gopher said:
Hilarious we are throwing out the new system before the first year is halfway complete.
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Don't get me wrong, the new playoff has added a little extra juice to the 2014 season, but it's more that I came to a quick realization it'll be quite silly if a 12-1 Big Ten and/or Big XII champion doesn't land in the playoff. But you're right, we need to give it a chance and let the season play out. If we end up with a 2- or 3-loss Big Ten champion, there certainly will be no grave injustice in the B1G not being part of the CFP.
 

TCU falling as far as they did is such a joke. SEC bias? Just a little. You lose on the road in the last second to #5 and you drop in the rankings? Win and they would have been 4th or 5th. Brutal.
 

station19 said:
You should have to win your conference to get in a 4-team playoff. Earn it on the field.
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This will almost certainly be the case but for Notre Dame. I wish the committee would view this weekend's ND - FSU game as the ACC championship in that regard, but they won't.
 

badgergopher said:
This will almost certainly be the case but for Notre Dame. I wish the committee would view this weekend's ND - FSU game as the ACC championship in that regard, but they won't.
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I think the committee will view it that way. Why would you think they wouldn't?
 

Sorry if this has been discussed previously. Do you think NDSU is going to go FBS anytime soon? They can certainly compete, maybe they join the conference with Boise State. With Power 5 conferences eliminating scheduling FCS schools, they are going to be doing without those dollars.
 

I've read a couple places that we were last ranked in 2008. Weren't we ranked #25 when we played Wisconsin last year?
 

Donovan said:
Sorry if this has been discussed previously. Do you think NDSU is going to go FBS anytime soon? They can certainly compete, maybe they join the conference with Boise State. With Power 5 conferences eliminating scheduling FCS schools, they are going to be doing without those dollars.
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No
 

AEmerson40 said:
I've read a couple places that we were last ranked in 2008. Weren't we ranked #25 when we played Wisconsin last year?
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I'm assuming the "last ranked in 2008" is in reference to the AP poll only. When we played Wisconsin last year, we were the first team in the "also receiving votes" category in the AP poll behind Duke at #25; at #23 in the Coaches Poll; and at #25 in the BCS standings. We were at #25 in the Coaches Poll after the PSU game, leading into the bye week before Wisconsin. We were last ranked in the AP poll on 10/26/08, ranked #20 (#20 Coaches, #17 BCS) before losing 24-17 at home to Northwestern, and we have yet to return.
 

Donovan said:
Sorry if this has been discussed previously. Do you think NDSU is going to go FBS anytime soon? They can certainly compete, maybe they join the conference with Boise State. With Power 5 conferences eliminating scheduling FCS schools, they are going to be doing without those dollars.
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You would be better off visiting Bisonville for that.

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