Another recruiting tool for coach Fleck? The city of Minneapolis?

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Crosby said:
I agree that it's a great city. We can still enjoy it while expressing concern about its faults. Are we really at the point where we say "it was only one that was burned down?" Geez. Either way, my objection is people who take issues with others who notice faults as being "political."
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Overall, I think we agree. None should be burnt down! With that said the entry way of one is accurate. To make it sound like multiple precincts were ablaze is distortion as well.

Unless the player is looking for a remote setting, there is so much going for the U of Mn and it's setting. When you have Buckeye, Wolverine, and Nittany Lion fans saying that overall this is a great city and setup, that says something. PJ and staff know they have something to "sell"!
 


STPGopher said:
Now? Maybe. Like Swede Hollow in St. Paul, it has been many things at many times. Minneapolis actually used that as an example of why you DON'T want to concentrate poverty.

Anyway, I highly doubt any players will be living there. Trust me there are many places in this country that are much worse to live in.
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Of course. St Louis, Baltimore, and Chicago come to mind.
 

FinnGopher said:
Of course. St Louis, Baltimore, and Chicago come to mind.
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Even in those cities (Baltimore?) there are fantastic places to live. Keep in mind there is a big difference between East St. Louis, and St. Louis.

I'd think if one's child was excepted at the U of Chicago they would go in a heartbeat.
 


Crosby said:
You do realize that you are contributing to the divisiveness when you put a label on everyone who negatively comments on things like that, right?
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You're not?
 


STPGopher said:
Even in those cities (Baltimore?) there are fantastic places to live. Keep in mind there is a big difference between East St. Louis, and St. Louis.

I'd think if one's child was excepted at the U of Chicago they would go in a heartbeat.
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I have relatives in St Louis and the west side (specifically the north side) is bad.
Of course there are pockets of good. Like Mpls, each block will have a different vibe. One block may be neighbors bonding together while the next may be terrorized by gang violence. We humans are odd.
 




I was born in Mpls and live here now, have for almost all my life. I'm not too keen on the bikepaths taking up road space for cars, but it seems like lots of people wanna bike on them and such so I can live with them.

I'd hate to think what dining would be like if I didn't have a million options right out my front door, so to speak.

Too old to really comment on the night life. Back in the late '90s and early (whatever the next decade was called) I was in downtown all the f-ing time clubbing and partying. Is that still popular?
 

GopherTheJugular said:
I'd have trouble believing this, unless they were realizing their playing days were coming to an end and weren't football focused anymore.

Otherwise, I'd think playing time, NIL money, relationship with the coaches, etc would be more important than one or two extra years in Mpls.

Could be wrong though....
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I think he's saying a lot of players that aren't from here have chosen to stay after being done playing (not that they chose us for that reason during recruiting).
 

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I think he's saying a lot of players that aren't from here have chosen to stay after being done playing (not that they chose us for that reason during recruiting).
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Thanks. The comment makes a lot more sense now, and I can totally agree. I've actually met a former player from Louisiana that made his home here for a long time.
 

GopherTheJugular said:
I was born in Mpls and live here now, have for almost all my life. I'm not too keen on the bikepaths taking up road space for cars, but it seems like lots of people wanna bike on them and such so I can live with them.
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Nowhere near as bike crazy as Amsterdam. You really have to watch where you're walking there.
 



TwistingMyMelon said:
Nowhere near as bike crazy as Amsterdam. You really have to watch where you're walking there.
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The European flatlands of Belgium, the Netherlands, and Denmark are filled with bikers. I love biking and enjoy the trails around the Twin Cities. From my place I can quickly be on a trail that would bring me all the way to Prescott, Wisconsin, Stillwater, or through Minneapolis and up to Elm Creek Park Reserve. As a cyclist I can't complain...except for the damn ebikers who are clueless.
I, sadly, saw an ebiker get killed as he had no helmet, was flying up the sidewalk going almost 30mph and a car turned in front of him into a parking lot. Dude couldn't stop and went head first into the side of the car. Broke his neck and died on the sidewalk.
 
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mggoph said:
I totally agree. Hundreds of multi story high rise condos that basically are Soviet era style. Love the Gastown District tho.
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Yes, Old Vancouver is very interesting!
 

Late to the party here but to those of you familiar with Vancouver, we'll be there for a few days in September. Going to Victoria and the botanical gardens 1 day. What else would you recommend (site seeing, restaurants, bars)? Thanks in advance.
 

GopherTheJugular said:
I was born in Mpls and live here now, have for almost all my life. I'm not too keen on the bikepaths taking up road space for cars, but it seems like lots of people wanna bike on them and such so I can live with them.

I'd hate to think what dining would be like if I didn't have a million options right out my front door, so to speak.

Too old to really comment on the night life. Back in the late '90s and early (whatever the next decade was called) I was in downtown all the f-ing time clubbing and partying. Is that still popular?
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I grew up outstate, but lived in and around Minneapolis for most of my adult life. It appears I am a little older than you and I imbibed (in more ways than one) the night life in Minneapolis in the late-1970s through the 1980s. 1980s were pretty much a golden era for young professionals in Minneapolis. Retail was still hopping big-time and everyone wanted to go downtown and party after work.

I was an Augsburg student when Cedar Square West was being promoted and ultimately built. Heller/Siegel was the developer and they did a presentation in my sociology class. It was intended to have a variety of low, middle, and high rent units in order that would promote a mixed income neighborhood of sorts. I remember one of my classmates (a fellow small town hayseed) looking at me and whispering "That's never going to work." Bold vision but a bit divorced from reality. I had some friends who lived there in the 1980s and the units were pretty nice in the 1970s kind of way.
 

Crosby said:
And then there is the group of people, also politically motivated, who cheerfully sing the refrain of "nothing to see here" when others dare to notice things like police precinct offices being burned to the ground. Any negative comment about that must be questioned as "politically motivated" I guess. You do realize that you are contributing to the divisiveness when you put a label on everyone who negatively comments on things like that, right?
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I don’t think you are understanding what I am saying at all.

Post a photo of a pretty Mpls sunset or a neighborhood block party in a place like tik tok and count the number of comments about “murderapolis” or “city has been destroyed by dems” - almost always made by people whose entire Minneapolis first hand experience consists of that time or two someone had an extra Viking game ticket for them.

I’m not talking about discussions related to the successes and failures of the city overall. Plenty of material there for a healthy debate over how it could be better. I’m talking about something else. We simply now have a group of far flung people at war with our own economic hub simply because they feel it somehow owns the dems to portray Mpls as a hellhole. Statistics be damned.
 

TNGophfan said:
Late to the party here but to those of you familiar with Vancouver, we'll be there for a few days in September. Going to Victoria and the botanical gardens 1 day. What else would you recommend (site seeing, restaurants, bars)? Thanks in advance.
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That's a great start. Stanley Park, Gastown, Capilano suspension bridge all worth while. If you have time, the short drive up to Squamish and Whistler is spectacular. Lot of things to do in Whistler if time permits.
 


Schnauzer said:
I don’t think you are understanding what I am saying at all.

Post a photo of a pretty Mpls sunset or a neighborhood block party in a place like tik tok and count the number of comments about “murderapolis” or “city has been destroyed by dems” - almost always made by people whose entire Minneapolis first hand experience consists of that time or two someone had an extra Viking game ticket for them.

I’m not talking about discussions related to the successes and failures of the city overall. Plenty of material there for a healthy debate over how it could be better. I’m talking about something else. We simply now have a group of far flung people at war with our own economic hub simply because they feel it somehow owns the dems to portray Mpls as a hellhole. Statistics be damned.
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What statistics are damned?
 




Schnauzer said:
ANY statistic that suggest Mpls being anything but a burned out death ridden war zone. I really have to explain this stuff?
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Do the statistics show that crime is better, worse or static over the last 5, 10, 20 years?
 

My God, some people are obtuse. All the poster was saying was that it is annoying that ANY place where something positive is posted/shown/displayed about Minneapolis, there is a segment of online personas who feel it is their duty to come on and bash the city. How is this an arguing point?

How about those sorts of comments take place in an article highlighting crime or serious issues (of which most people can admit there are some) occurring in the city? That seems valid.

Why there is a burning desire to defend the practice of sh*tposting the major economic and cultural city of MN every time something positive is posted - OFTEN (but not always) by people who do not live in the city and have ZERO desire to ever live there, regardless of how the city was run (because it is, after all, a major metropolitan area)? What are people even arguing about here???
 

Here’s an example. I produced a harmless tik tok of a nighttime campfire at our cabin with loons calling loudly in the background. It did pretty well by my humble standards. Lots of views and over 1000 comments. Most were memories of staying at little resorts up north, reminiscing that it is their favorite sound, how much they love loons, etc.

I ended up having to delete over 100 comments like this (and still counting)…

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Honestly, I simply don't like driving through pot hole streets. Mpls is terrible and St Paul isn't much better. The infrastructure of the city seems to be breaking up. I just went to Minnehaha Falls and steps are breaking with one path entirely blocked off. The city seems to be more and more impoverished despite having some of the highest taxes. I have to ask where all those tax revenues are being spent if it's not for the infrastructure of the city.
While Mpls may be better than other larger cities, that doesn't necessarily mean its doing that well.
 

Gophers1992 said:
Is crime a problem in Minneapolis?
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Based on 2023 data Mpls violent crime rate was 179% higher national, ranked in top ten in crime in USA. Recent data showed Mpls had highest crime rate of Minnesota largest cities followed by StCloud, Duluth and St Paul.

To be fair early 2025 data shows lower crime rates. But this is pretty much the USA norm since Covid
 
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