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On our new OC:

"It could be relatively soon," he said. "It's not going to be long. I think the hire will be an absolute knockout. An absolute killer shot."

Is the new hire a "killer shot"?
 

Hasn't this been brought to everyone's attention like 8 times already?
 

I think he may over estimate the general publics ability to understand what constitutes a killer hire. I've a feeling in the coaching world this is a killer hire.
 

He could say the most ridiculous nonsense things ever and I would not give a damn as long as he wins. What are people's obsessions with Brewster's quotes?
 



I would rather have him say:
"It could be relatively soon," he said. "It's not going to be long. I think the hire will be an absolute knockout. An absolute killer shot."

Than:
"It could be relatively soon," he said. "It's not going to be long. I think the hire will be adequate at what he does. A real average guy."
 

Hope I'm really wrong but he reminds me of:

Ed Orgeron

I rather have him say we're working on a replacement. I also believe he said they guy would have NFL experience.

I hope Josh does a great job, who knows.
 

where's the exageration?

If Brew says it's going to be a knockout hire and a killer shot and He hires the person, He must believe that person is a knockout, therefore his statement is true. Your interpretation of his statement or view of the hire has nothing to do with Brews quote or the emotion he chooses to show.

Also where is everybody getting this "NFL experience" thing? where was it written?
 

Also, killer shot means different things to different people. I ran this hire by my wife, who I finally talked into going to the games this year (She is not a big sports fan). However, she was pretty fired up about the hire. The positives appear to be 1) Oklahoma, 2) first-rate college QB (Oklahoma didn't hurt) and 3) coached the Heisman winner this year. I didn't really expect her to react one way or the other. Since she was pretty excited, this may very well be viewed as a "killer shot" by the casual fan.

I think many of the hardcore fans view a "killer shot" OC as the guy has already been a highly successful OC. As other people have pointed out, it's hard to get that type of hire here given our budget and overall state of the program.

Since he was an OC here, I took a look at Mike Shanahan's profile. He was a college QB at Eastern Illinois. His playing days were cut short by a ruptured kidney. In 1975 he was an assistant at Oklahoma. In 1976 and 1977 he was the running back coach at Northern Arizona. In 1978 he was the OC at Eastern Illinois. In 1979 he was OC at Minnesota. Would this have looked like a "killer shot" hire? Didn't to me at the time but he put together a scary good offense with a minimum of talent. Then in 1980 he went to Florida as OC for three years before going to the Broncos and the NFL. "Killer shot"? (Although, I did check Eastern Illinois was the 1978 Division II champ. They were runner up in 1980.)
 



in the eye of the beholder

I think Heupel is much more of a home run than Chuck Long or most any other name I have heard circulating around. Except maybe norm chow, but he's old.
 

btowngopher said:
He could say the most ridiculous nonsense things ever and I would not give a damn as long as he wins. What are people's obsessions with Brewster's quotes?
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It is a cultural thing. Minnesotans don't like enthusiasm. Winter is too long for enthusiasm to exist. Pessimism and angst, however? Yah, you betcha.
 

excuse me?????

just what exactly do you call a guy who is going to make the gopher offense unstoppable two years from now and rolling up 40 on USC in the Rose Bowl?

i believe the correct phrase is "killer shot"
 




I also don't know where the "NFL experience" bit came from, but if you want to get technical, note that it doesn't say "NFL coaching experience". Heupel does have a minute amount of NFL experience, playing in one training camp with the Dolphins.
 

I just don't get why people get on Brewster for being positive and enthusiastic. :confused: It just strikes me as plain stupid to rip a guy for being upbeat.

If he was the opposite, would people like him better? Do you really want a coach who says stuff like "well, maybe we'll be good someday. But I doubt it. Right now, all we want to do is maintain." or someone who thinks we can do better?
 

Maybe he could say:

MinnesotaMadman said:
I would rather have him say:
"It could be relatively soon," he said. "It's not going to be long. I think the hire will be an absolute knockout. An absolute killer shot."

Than:
"It could be relatively soon," he said. "It's not going to be long. I think the hire will be adequate at what he does. A real average guy."
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"It could be realtively soon," he said. "It's not going to be long. I think the hire will be the right guy for Minnesota and we'll be lucky to get the strategy, coaching ability, and recruiting acumen we're looking for in this position." He went on to say "He will take the start we have on creating an exciting offense to another level, and I can't wait to get started with him on board."

Positive? Check.
Realistic? Check.
Sends the right message to the team and recruits? Check.
Not completely full of sh!t? Check.

It can be done with enthusiasm and hype, and without snake oil, just not by our current Head Coach.

I'm a little frightened that "the way Brewster says things is the only way to say them and anyone who disagrees is wrong." is the mentality on this board. Brewster has not demonstrated a level of competency to give him the "free pass" for bullsh!t comments like the original quote. Back it up, then he's colorful and we love him.

Keep saying it and failing to deliver, and he just makes moving the program forward harder with every dimwitted hyperbolic statement. Shut up and do something on the field, then cock off.
 

Nice Cali,

This was from today's PP blog, it's better.

As for the timetable on naming a new offensive coordinator, Brewster said Friday, "It will happen sooner than later. I have a really good feel and handle on it. I’m excited about the possibilities.”
 

nemosgold said:
Honesty????
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Actually I don't really care if he is all that honest, as long as he is respectful to the program and to his staff/players and as long as he wins games. You aren't dating the man, you are watching him coach football. Quit crying about such meaningless things.
 

I'm 50/50 on Brew, definitely wouldn't spend a penny on renewing his contract. We have a guy at Williams that deserves that first.

Honesty is a big issue with me, I know he has one recruit who he made decide in a day on his offer at Minnesota, kid accepeted offer, now he wants the kid to gray shirt after he blew his knee out, most coaches stand by kids they have made offers to that are injured.
 

nemosgold said:
I'm 50/50 on Brew, definitely wouldn't spend a penny on renewing his contract. We have a guy at Williams that deserves that first.

Honesty is a big issue with me, I know he has one recruit who he made decide in a day on his offer at Minnesota, kid accepeted offer, now he wants the kid to gray shirt after he blew his knee out, most coaches stand by kids they have made offers to that are injured.
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Not sure how asking the kid to gray shirt makes him dishonest. How does gray shirting the kid mean he isn't standing by him? Even if Brewster isn't honest (saying enthusiastic and optimistic things does not make him dishonest) if he wins games I will still stand behind him (as long as it isn't serious stuff like cheating).
 

nemosgold said:
..........I know he has one recruit who he made decide in a day on his offer at Minnesota, kid accepeted offer, now he wants the kid to gray shirt after he blew his knee out, most coaches stand by kids they have made offers to that are injured.
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It seems you must be more upset about it than the recruit. If the recruit is as upset about it as you appear to be I would think he would be looking to go to school elsewhere.

I also don't see this as not standing by this recruit. In fact I see it as he is looking out for this athlete that has as you said "blown out a knee".
 

btowngopher said:
Not sure how asking the kid to gray shirt makes him dishonest. How does gray shirting the kid mean he isn't standing by him? Even if Brewster isn't honest (saying enthusiastic and optimistic things does not make him dishonest) if he wins games I will still stand behind him (as long as it isn't serious stuff like cheating).
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Gray shirting can be a good thing for a player who is already injured before getting to school. It gives him more healing time without using eligibility, allows him to get to school in January to start training and participate in spring practice, and it gives him time to get acclimated to college without having the added workload of preparing for a game every week.
 

lawrence21 said:
If Brew says it's going to be a knockout hire and a killer shot and He hires the person, He must believe that person is a knockout, therefore his statement is true. Your interpretation of his statement or view of the hire has nothing to do with Brews quote or the emotion he chooses to show.

Also where is everybody getting this "NFL experience" thing? where was it written?
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I read a book and Lou Holtz...

"... After being named the head coach at NCSU, I was highly disappointed over my lack of success in signing players to join our program. I showed up at the coaches convention in Chicago feeling down and sorry for myself. When I arrived at the hotel, I saw former Temple coach Wayne Hardin in the lobby. Wayne said he wanted to buy me a drink.

Soon he picked up on my low mood. Instead of concoling me or commiserating with me, Wayne asked, "Lou, are you the best coach in the country?" I felt about two inches tall at the time, so I looked at Wayne and said, "Goodness gracious no! I want to be on of the best coaches, but I'm not even in the top 100." He responded, "Then you ought to resign. N.C. State hired you because they thought you are the best coach in the country, and you ought to believe it, or you ought to leave..."

Brewsters quote was, "I think..." Brewster believes he will hire a great coach. I don't see any scenerio where Brewster doesn't try to hire the best OC that he can. Little F.Y.I. for all of us. If Brewster loses every job next year or runs a horrible program, he is the man without a job and he is the one who loses a head coaching job - something that has been his dream. Everybody has a plan, let them stick to their plan. I don't know if any of us have sat in a football meeting with Huepel, or Cosgrove for that matter, and talked football with him.

For the record, Huepel's track record is excellent - I don't think any of us can disagree with that. I love the hire of Huepel if that is indeed who we get. He was actually #2 on my list of guys, behind Applewhite. I am not as excited about Cosgrove, but well reserve most of my judgement for next fall.
 

caliGopher said:
"It could be realtively soon," he said. "It's not going to be long. I think the hire will be the right guy for Minnesota and we'll be lucky to get the strategy, coaching ability, and recruiting acumen we're looking for in this position." He went on to say "He will take the start we have on creating an exciting offense to another level, and I can't wait to get started with him on board."

Positive? Check.
Realistic? Check.
Sends the right message to the team and recruits? Check.
Not completely full of sh!t? Check.

It can be done with enthusiasm and hype, and without snake oil, just not by our current Head Coach.

I'm a little frightened that "the way Brewster says things is the only way to say them and anyone who disagrees is wrong." is the mentality on this board. Brewster has not demonstrated a level of competency to give him the "free pass" for bullsh!t comments like the original quote. Back it up, then he's colorful and we love him.

Keep saying it and failing to deliver, and he just makes moving the program forward harder with every dimwitted hyperbolic statement. Shut up and do something on the field, then cock off.
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I cannot agree more. Just because a fan doesn't agree with the coach does not mean you are anti-gophers. I have been attending games before Brewster arrived on campus and will be doing so long after he has left, cheering for the team and players.
 

safe to say

that Bob Stoops thinks Heupel is a absolute knockout, a killer shot (so do 2 Heisman trophy winning QB's). If he's good enough for Bob Stoops he's good enough for us.
 

Think about it this way.... would you rather have a guy like Brewster, with his colorful, honest enthusiasm who is always doing what he can to promote his program?
Or would you rather have a dull, boring guy like Brad Childress, who refuses to give one bit of insight and talks like he's the smartest guy in the room, but the emotion of a worm?

I'd take Brewster's "over the top" enthusiasm anyday of the week.
 

I hope Brew succeeds but, I'd rather have a guy like TUBBBY SMITH running our football program.
 

The programs needed 2 completely different things and both got what they needed.
 

nemosgold said:
I hope Brew succeeds but, I'd rather have a guy like TUBBBY SMITH running our football program.
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You mean a guy who you could trust and you would want your kid to play for who is able to successfully recruit based on his accomplishments versus tooting his own horn. Someone who has proven his ability to coach and doesn't use lack of talent as a crutch or excuse. Also someone who is loyal to his staff and in return his staff has and will follow him anywhere.
 

GopherGod said:
You mean a guy who you could trust and you would want your kid to play for who is able to successfully recruit based on his accomplishments versus tooting his own horn. Someone who has proven his ability to coach and doesn't use lack of talent as a crutch or excuse. Also someone who is loyal to his staff and in return his staff has and will follow him anywhere.
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As for the first comment, does it really matter how he gets the good recruits? The only thing Gopher fans should care about is the fact that Brewster is doing a very good job of recruiting. At one point Tubby was in the exact same situation as Brewster. It would have been tough for Tubby to "recruit based on his accomplishments" when he was a fairly new coach, don't you think? Even without a lot of "accomplishments" as a head coach, Brewster is still able to bring in better recruiting classes than we've had in a long time (or maybe ever).

Your comment about loyalty makes no sense, would you rather Brewster keep coaches that are not on the same page as the rest of the staff? This is just the world of coaching in college now days. What about Ted Roof then, was he not loyal to Brewster who hired him?
 

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