Andy Katz reporting

[Rosemountian]

That well may be correct, but I really hope they let us end with either IA or NE. Nebraska's game won't be 'traditional' no matter who they play, but I believe we've played them more then anyone else. So MN-NE and IA-NU makes more sense to me. IA and NU have a budding rivalry going as well. Otherwise let NU-NE be the end game and let the tradional MN-IA trophy game stay at the end.

Hopefully they do this, but I bet they don't. I'd really be happy if they decided to go MN-MI to end the year.
I am fine with any of the 5 as the last week opponent though. If they do the cross divisional game it will obviously be WI. The NU and MSU rivalries will be really enhanced by this setup.
The WI rivalry could take a little hit, but since we still play every year it will remain pretty strong.

 

[Ski U Mah 55]

If Wisconsin isn't the X-over, I will burn the B10 headquarters to the ground and piss on the ashes.

 

[Gopherhurrin]

I want to make my position public. This is from another thread.

As stated before, if we end up playing, minimum, Michigan, Nebraska, Iowa and Wisconsin every year I believe we will be starting every season with little chance to get the championship compared to our peers. Wisconsin, for example, would be playing only two of the top six programs some years. There was a day when I would have thought the fans would understand the huge disadvantage this would leave our coaches, players, fans and recruiting at. Now, I understand that football fans are a rather testosterone driven group.

Well, more than ever, Go Gophers NOW!!!

 

[dpodoll68]

I want to make my position public. This is from another thread.

As stated before, if we end up playing, minimum, Michigan, Nebraska, Iowa and Wisconsin every year I believe we will be starting every season with little chance to get the championship compared to our peers. Wisconsin, for example, would be playing only two of the top six programs some years. There was a day when I would have thought the fans would understand the huge disadvantage this would leave our coaches, players, fans and recruiting at. Now, I understand that football fans are a rather testosterone driven group.

Well, more than ever, Go Gophers NOW!!!

What does this clown have to do to get banned?

 

[Gophs]

My worry

I like the split only if we play Wisconsin as the cross-over game. My worry is that the Big Ten might want Nebraska's cross-over game to be with Wisconsin. I know Bielema wanted to play the Huskers every year.

I say this because the market is there, too. I know Penn State/Wisconsin would be a nice money maker, but I think the Big Ten could profit more with a Wisconsin/Nebraska matchup. Both team travel well, and there are Wisconsin fans nationwide. That would bring in a lot of cash.

I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

So if that's the case, we better win down in Madison this year, so we can hang on to the Ax for a little longer.

 

[FireDaveLee]

I want to make my position public. This is from another thread.

As stated before, if we end up playing, minimum, Michigan, Nebraska, Iowa and Wisconsin every year I believe we will be starting every season with little chance to get the championship compared to our peers. Wisconsin, for example, would be playing only two of the top six programs some years. There was a day when I would have thought the fans would understand the huge disadvantage this would leave our coaches, players, fans and recruiting at. Now, I understand that football fans are a rather testosterone driven group.

Well, more than ever, Go Gophers NOW!!!

How should the divisions be divided? ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!

 

[GoAUpher]

I want to make my position public. This is from another thread.

Ah shucks. Thanks for making sure your voice is heard. I for one, had not heard anything like this ever before. I am now truly enlightened. Almost as enlightened as if you had posted your own suggested divisional breakdown.

I'm seriously laughing so g-damn hard right now. The bolded is just so classic. Its like Gopherhurrin has message board Alzheimer's (which is funny. Real Alzheimer's is not).

Ah hilarity...the benefits of dumb posts.

 

[Unregistered User]

I want to make my position public. This is from another thread.

As stated before, if we end up playing, minimum, Michigan, Nebraska, Iowa and Wisconsin every year I believe we will be starting every season with little chance to get the championship compared to our peers. Wisconsin, for example, would be playing only two of the top six programs some years. There was a day when I would have thought the fans would understand the huge disadvantage this would leave our coaches, players, fans and recruiting at. Now, I understand that football fans are a rather testosterone driven group.

Well, more than ever, Go Gophers NOW!!!

Your post is redundant. You have repeated it in every post you have ever made. <-hyperbole...but pretty darn close.

 

[GoAUpher]

I like the split only if we play Wisconsin as the cross-over game. My worry is that the Big Ten might want Nebraska's cross-over game to be with Wisconsin. I know Bielema wanted to play the Huskers every year.

I say this because the market is there, too. I know Penn State/Wisconsin would be a nice money maker, but I think the Big Ten could profit more with a Wisconsin/Nebraska matchup. Both team travel well, and there are Wisconsin fans nationwide. That would bring in a lot of cash.

I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

So if that's the case, we better win down in Madison this year, so we can hang on to the Ax for a little longer.

They won't break up the longest D-1 rivalry. They just won't. Frankly, that would be more of a travesty then moving The Game since at least The Game would be played.

 

[Gold Vision]

I want to make my position public. This is from another thread.

As stated before, if we end up playing, minimum, Michigan, Nebraska, Iowa and Wisconsin every year I believe we will be starting every season with little chance to get the championship compared to our peers. Wisconsin, for example, would be playing only two of the top six programs some years. There was a day when I would have thought the fans would understand the huge disadvantage this would leave our coaches, players, fans and recruiting at. Now, I understand that football fans are a rather testosterone driven group.

Well, more than ever, Go Gophers NOW!!!

Iowa and Wisconsin will be protected. So flip flop your statement to the other conference with Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin, and Iowa. Which would you rather have?

Ohio State and Penn State >>> Michigan and Nebraska.

 

[Gophs]

They won't break up the longest D-1 rivalry. They just won't. Frankly, that would be more of a travesty then moving The Game since at least The Game would be played.

i hope so.

 

[josh087]

If Wisconsin is the protected game I don't think the divisions could have worked out better from a Gopher fan perspective.

 

[MaxyJR1]

If Wisconsin is the protected game I don't think the divisions could have worked out better from a Gopher fan perspective.

I love what Katz is putting down. I think the crossover games may be OSU/MICH; PSU/NEB; IL/IA; WIS/MN; PUR/MSU; IN/NW.

Also our division has two trophy games, potential of one in Nebraska, and two teams that we have close games with every time we play. Love it.

 

[gopherguy05]

I love what Katz is putting down. I think the crossover games may be OSU/MICH; PSU/NEB; IL/IA; WIS/MN; PUR/MSU; IN/NW.

Also our division has two trophy games, potential of one in Nebraska, and two teams that we have close games with every time we play. Love it.

I think you flip MSU and NW since MSU and Indiana play for the brass spitoon and you have got it right

 

[Max Power]

Why do people think that they wouldn't keep Illinois-Northwestern. Illinois-Iowa nowhere near the rivalry that the former is. Plus they're in the same state. I can see NE-PSU and MSU-IU now. After further research it all seems pretty clear.

MN-WIS
OSU-MI
NW-IL
MSU-IU
PSU-NEB
IA-PUR

 

[GoAUpher]

I love what Katz is putting down. I think the crossover games may be OSU/MICH; PSU/NEB; IL/IA; WIS/MN; PUR/MSU; IN/NW.

Also our division has two trophy games, potential of one in Nebraska, and two teams that we have close games with every time we play. Love it.

NW/IL will end up protected b/c its the best of the protected rivalries NW has (the other is Purdue) and its a trophy game.

 

[Gopherhurrin]

I would rather play 0, 1, 2 or 3 of the Big Six every year. Minimum 4 every year is suicide, on average. Especially when some of our peers will enjoy playing only two of the Big Six, on average, each year.

I love playing Iowa and Wisconsin as much as any Gopher fan. However, I'm just not into Charge of the Light Brigade stuff four times a year, at minimum. Plus, we are going to get Ohio State and/or Penn State once out of every two and half years, on average. Meaning, in plain language, we are going to get five of the Big Six in nearly half of all seasons. That is harder than the schedule this year, on average.

 

[GoAUpher]

What is that buzzing sound I hear? It seems to be repeating the words "Big Ten Wins" and "Minnesota to the Sun Belt".

 

[Ole]

I want to make my position public. This is from another thread.

As stated before, if we end up playing, minimum, Michigan, Nebraska, Iowa and Wisconsin every year I believe we will be starting every season with little chance to get the championship compared to our peers. Wisconsin, for example, would be playing only two of the top six programs some years. There was a day when I would have thought the fans would understand the huge disadvantage this would leave our coaches, players, fans and recruiting at. Now, I understand that football fans are a rather testosterone driven group.

Well, more than ever, Go Gophers NOW!!!

what a weiner attitude.
One: You're assuming we can't beat those 4 teams right off the bat.
Two: Maybe just maybe weaseling our way through an easy schedule and then getting an out of the blue upset isn't the way to go. Why can't we step up as a program and compete and earn our championship berth. Talk/Philosophy like yours got our last coach fired, and rightfully so.

BTW I think our chances are better to beat those 4 in one season than beating both OSU and PSU in one.

AND WHAT THE H, since when are Iowee and wisky considered in the BIG SIX of the conference, they've had nice runs, but they are not in the same league as PSU, Michigan, OSU, or Nebraska

 

[josh087]

I would rather play 0, 1, 2 or 3 of the Big Six every year. Minimum 4 every year is suicide, on average. Especially when some of our peers will enjoy playing only two of the Big Six, on average, each year.

I love playing Iowa and Wisconsin as much as any Gopher fan. However, I'm just not into Charge of the Light Brigade stuff four times a year, at minimum. Plus, we are going to get Ohio State and/or Penn State once out of every two and half years, on average. Meaning, in plain language, we are going to get five of the Big Six in nearly half of all seasons. That is harder than the schedule this year, on average.

Wren,

We're already playing Iowa, Wisconsin, Penn State AND Ohio State this year - 4 of the top 6. That's the same scenario as your 4 of the top 6 every year scenario you referenced above.

With the new divisions we will have years of playing 4 of the top 6 (since in some years we will not be playing OSU, this could even be seen as a positive step from the current situation).

Here's the real kicker, though. Currently we have to beat out 10 teams to get to a BCS game. With the new division format we would only would have to beat out 5 teams to get a shot at a BCS game.

So if you really analyze it, we're going to be playing a similar schedule (if not better in the years we miss OSU) to what we are now in terms of the number of top teams we are playing, but we'd only have to beat half as many teams as we do now to get a chance at the BCS.

Seems pretty simple that the divisional scenario is preferred.

 

[NateDawgUM]

Gopherhurrin sounds like he'd rather Minnesota be Division 1-AA.

Assuming Wisconsin is protected, we came out a winner in this alignment thing. We DO need to keep our fan base interested btw, since we're up against more local competition. A weak schedule against non-rivals and geographically distant opponents isn't going to excite the locals.

 

[Max Power]

I would rather play 0, 1, 2 or 3 of the Big Six every year. Minimum 4 every year is suicide, on average. Especially when some of our peers will enjoy playing only two of the Big Six, on average, each year.

I love playing Iowa and Wisconsin as much as any Gopher fan. However, I'm just not into Charge of the Light Brigade stuff four times a year, at minimum. Plus, we are going to get Ohio State and/or Penn State once out of every two and half years, on average. Meaning, in plain language, we are going to get five of the Big Six in nearly half of all seasons. That is harder than the schedule this year, on average.

What the hell is wrong with you people:

Nebraska has 4 losses or more (in the Big 12 North mind you) over the past 6 years.
Wisconsin has been a good team, but not a great team over the past 10 years. If you can't beat a team like that with some regularity, you don't deserve with compete for a title.
Iowa is up and down
Michigan stinks right now and if they lose this year will have another couple of years of rebuilding.

They're all good teams, but not the type of teams that you should think can never be beaten.

 

[Gold Vision]

I would rather play 0, 1, 2 or 3 of the Big Six every year. Minimum 4 every year is suicide, on average. Especially when some of our peers will enjoy playing only two of the Big Six, on average, each year.

I love playing Iowa and Wisconsin as much as any Gopher fan. However, I'm just not into Charge of the Light Brigade stuff four times a year, at minimum. Plus, we are going to get Ohio State and/or Penn State once out of every two and half years, on average. Meaning, in plain language, we are going to get five of the Big Six in nearly half of all seasons. That is harder than the schedule this year, on average.

Which "peers" are you talking about? If you define a "Big Six" (which in itself is ridiculous to put OSU and Iowa in the same teir) than those teams are clearly not our peers. By your definition, in the other division, our "peers" are IU, IL, and PU. They each play 3 Big 6 within their division, same as the Gophers.

If you are for getting rid of one of the best traditions the Gopher's have in playing Iowa and Wisconsin every year, you clearly don't "get it". Nebraska and Michigan are not at the same level as OSU and PSU.

 

[jerdogg1]

I would rather play 0, 1, 2 or 3 of the Big Six every year. Minimum 4 every year is suicide, on average. Especially when some of our peers will enjoy playing only two of the Big Six, on average, each year.

I love playing Iowa and Wisconsin as much as any Gopher fan. However, I'm just not into Charge of the Light Brigade stuff four times a year, at minimum. Plus, we are going to get Ohio State and/or Penn State once out of every two and half years, on average. Meaning, in plain language, we are going to get five of the Big Six in nearly half of all seasons. That is harder than the schedule this year, on average.

Your assumption only works if you're also assuming that "the Big Six" are the Big Six every single year.

The Big Ten is the deepest conference in the country, so the schedule is going to be tough no matter how you slice the divisions. Stop complaining about our road to a championship being too difficult because that will always be the case.

Unless of course you'd like to have a Big Six Division and a Bottom Feeders Division so that the winner of the Bottom Feeders Division can get slaughtered in the championship game every year.

 

[sonnygarcia]

Sorry, but its just been killin me reading posts that take Gopherhurrin as a Gopher fan. Get a clue, realize he is a hogeye troll and quit having conversations with this d-bag who continues to take shots at the Gophers.

 

[dpodoll68]

Sorry, but its just been killin me reading posts that take Gopherhurrin as a Gopher fan. Get a clue, realize he is a hogeye troll and quit having conversations with this d-bag who continues to take shots at the Gophers.

No, he is definitely not a Pig lover. He is most certainly a Gopher fan. Just the most nauseating, boring, and out-of-touch one on the planet.

 

[Gophergrrl]

That is a division Minnesota can win!! GO GOPHERS!

 

[Gopherhurrin]

Your assumption only works if you're also assuming that "the Big Six" are the Big Six every single year.

The Big Ten is the deepest conference in the country, so the schedule is going to be tough no matter how you slice the divisions. Stop complaining about our road to a championship being too difficult because that will always be the case.

Unless of course you'd like to have a Big Six Division and a Bottom Feeders Division so that the winner of the Bottom Feeders Division can get slaughtered in the championship game every year.

Sorry, but you miss my point entirely. Certainly power can change from program to program from year to year but, in reality, they don't. If shifts occur they will be just as likely to be away from us as towards us. Thus, why are cheering for a schedule that gives us more games against the current Big Six than any other team in the Big Ten will have? I want the minimum average of playing three out of six. That is all. Most are saying they like this four every year, minimum. IMHO, this is fully self destructive the goal of this site: to cheer the Gophers towards a January bowl game. If we were in the same division as Neb, Iowa and Wisc, with random cross over games we would have a better chance at more wins, on average.

Never going to happen? I know that. We are not being paid $23 million dollars a year by the league so that others get to lose games.

 

[Bo Darville]

Gopherhurrin sounds like he'd rather Minnesota be Division 1-AA.

I don't know... Northern Iowa and North Dakota State might be too tough for us to compete with year in and year out. Should probably go down to D-2, D-3, or NAIA.

 

[Gophergrrl]

Haters gonna hate.