Just a question, seriously, have they been overachieving? I look at basketball much as I look at hockey, they're a lot of people actually playing the sport. I don't think all the good players actually get scouted well or enough. Some are just late bloomers, some just end up working harder and improving their game while others stagnate. Maybe the guys we have are late bloomers, worked harder or weren't scouted and vetted as well as the popular hot beds of basketball. I don't know all the answers but I feel like lots of players just aren't seen as much as others and so there are some misses that are truly good players. Ben and coaches seem to have found some hidden gems in the weeds or the back country!