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per this tweet from SportingNews:

"BREAKING: Stanford's Andrew Luck will not enter NFL Draft"

Go Gophers!!
 

The guy in the office next to mine is from North Carolina and is a big Panthers fan. He is devastated.
 

It would be pretty awesome for Stanford to be in the National Championship game next year, it would be 180 degrees different than Auburn.
 

He better hope he doesn't suffer a major injury That would be about 50 million out the window.
 



There were a lot of people saying for a long time that this would happen, but they were drowned out by the chorus of "He'll be the #1 overall pick, he HAS to go pro!" There is something to be said for taking the money while you can get it, but your college years are also times you can't get back. With Luck returning, especially if Harbaugh decides he'd rather stick around, Stanford has to be a favorite for the national title next year. That's also something you can't go back and take another shot at.
 


I think he should have consulted Jake Locker prior to making this decision. He has been in school 3 years now. My hunch is without the labor questions surrounding the NFL, he would have made the move.

There are a ton of elements that go into making a team a National Championship contender besides coach and QB. I have no idea what Stanford's depth chart looks like, but I wonder how many of the defensive "stars" of the Orange Bowl or how many of Luck's O-Linemen are seniors?
 

If a 12-1 team wasn't worth filling Stanford's 50,000 seat stadium, perhaps the Cardinal fan base will turn out next year with some additional time to digest the special season they just missed witnessing in person and the prospect of Luck returning.
 



He is going to be fine financially with his degree and name even if he ends up blowing out a knee, Luck is in a much better position to stay than say a Cole Aldrich was at Kansas.
 


goldengophers said:
He is going to be fine financially with his degree and name even if he ends up blowing out a knee, Luck is in a much better position to stay than say a Cole Aldrich was at Kansas.
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This is a difference in being "fine" financially and being the #1 pick in the NFL draft. This is not to say he cannot be the #1 pick next year, but it just would be very difficult to pass up because you would be set for life. Also, you can finish your degree anytime.
 

Stan The Caddy said:
This is a difference in being "fine" financially and being the #1 pick in the NFL draft. This is not to say he cannot be the #1 pick next year, but it just would be very difficult to pass up because you would be set for life. Also, you can finish your degree anytime.
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I agree with you 100% and would leave if I were him but I wanted to people to understand it isn't as insane as some are making it out to be.
 



Stan The Caddy said:
I think he should have consulted Jake Locker prior to making this decision. He has been in school 3 years now. My hunch is without the labor questions surrounding the NFL, he would have made the move.

There are a ton of elements that go into making a team a National Championship contender besides coach and QB. I have no idea what Stanford's depth chart looks like, but I wonder how many of the defensive "stars" of the Orange Bowl or how many of Luck's O-Linemen are seniors?
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I have to disagree with this for a number of reasons. I am a secondary fan of U-dub, but have to admit that Locker really isn't that good, and all the #1 talk is just hype. He got found out this year. He has great athleticism, a great arm, but terrible decision making. Luck, on the other hand is the real deal.

But I don't think Locker really cares. Because he is a folk legend in Washington, and that might not be worth $50 million but it's very important for someone who grew up cheering for the team and wanted nothing more than to lead them to a post-season victory, which he accomplished. He will never have to buy a meal, a beer, or anything in Washington for the rest of his life. And he will still make a decent living as a back-up/ 3rd string QB in the pros.

I am a huge fan of both of these guys, because they realize that money isn't everything (there is a great numerical difference between $50 million and $5 million, but $5 million still guarantees you a comfortable life). Luck, will still be the #1 pick next year barring a ghastly injury.
 

Some more thoughts...

Luck's dad is the AD at West Virginia and the kid could have gone to Stanford on his own dime if he wanted to. He's not in the same situation as others.

He also has a different mentality from other college athletes. That is, he actually is a student-athlete. He realizes the NFL, though it seems to be the be all for everyone in America, is really only a small part of life. He wants to be a great NFL quarterback (and will be- no doubt), but that's not all he wants to be.

And Stanford will most likely lose Harbaugh, but they have a great recruiting class coming in, and lots of talent on both sides of the ball. Though they do lose some quality o-linemen. If they find the right guy they will be set up for another great year with Luck.
 

Sota-Masochism said:
Some more thoughts...

Luck's dad is the AD at West Virginia and the kid could have gone to Stanford on his own dime if he wanted to. He's not in the same situation as others.

He also has a different mentality from other college athletes. That is, he actually is a student-athlete. He realizes the NFL, though it seems to be the be all for everyone in America, is really only a small part of life. He wants to be a great NFL quarterback (and will be- no doubt), but that's not all he wants to be.

And Stanford will most likely lose Harbaugh, but they have a great recruiting class coming in, and lots of talent on both sides of the ball. Though they do lose some quality o-linemen. If they find the right guy they will be set up for another great year with Luck.
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$5 isn't that much after you pay your agent (3%), taxes (35-45% depending on location), by a modest house then try to live on the interest for the rest of your life. It is a better lifestyle than the majority of people, but not what you make it out to be.

You never know what will happen in terms of being the #1 pick, the same thing was said about Matt Lienart.
 

goldengophers said:
I agree with you 100% and would leave if I were him but I wanted to people to understand it isn't as insane as some are making it out to be.
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I hear you and would never begrudge a kid who wants to spend another year in college because it truly is the best time of your life. I used to be a guy you wanted everybody to stay. Now, I have changed my view. Take the money when you can. You only have one chance.

Plus, from a pure financial standpoint, you theoretically give yourself one more year of high earning potential by playing for money when you are 22 as opposed to that final year in school.
 

Losing Harbaugh and a large chunk of the O-Line shouldn't be afterthoughts for Luck. I wish him well and hope that he has a great season next year, but experienced o-lineman are not easy to replace, and if Harbaugh leaves, will Luck enjoy the process of potentially learning a new system ( i know, he's a genius) on the fly during his final season?
 


Sota-Masochism said:
I have to disagree with this for a number of reasons. I am a secondary fan of U-dub, but have to admit that Locker really isn't that good, and all the #1 talk is just hype. He got found out this year. He has great athleticism, a great arm, but terrible decision making. Luck, on the other hand is the real deal.

But I don't think Locker really cares. Because he is a folk legend in Washington, and that might not be worth $50 million but it's very important for someone who grew up cheering for the team and wanted nothing more than to lead them to a post-season victory, which he accomplished. He will never have to buy a meal, a beer, or anything in Washington for the rest of his life. And he will still make a decent living as a back-up/ 3rd string QB in the pros.

I am a huge fan of both of these guys, because they realize that money isn't everything (there is a great numerical difference between $50 million and $5 million, but $5 million still guarantees you a comfortable life). Luck, will still be the #1 pick next year barring a ghastly injury.
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Thank you for making my argument for me. If Locker was not "found out" this year, there is a good chance he would have put Sam Bradford's contract in his pocket before being "found out." Now with the collective bargaining agreement coming, those rookie mega-contracts are gone and Locker missed his shot. IMO it was a disastrous financial decision.
 

Silvio said:
$5 isn't that much after you pay your agent (3%), taxes (35-45% depending on location), by a modest house then try to live on the interest for the rest of your life. It is a better lifestyle than the majority of people, but not what you make it out to be.

You never know what will happen in terms of being the #1 pick, the same thing was said about Matt Lienart.
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Yeah, I agree with you on that point. I just wanted to defend him because I think he'll be alright. I dislike when people like us question what these kids should do, whether they leave or they stay. Those who leave do so for their priorities, those who stay do so for the same reason. I know people love money, and the only thing better than money is more money, but I sincerely don't think this kid is going to care if he wrecks his knee, never signs an NFL contract, and goes to work in an architectural firm before becoming a high priced AD later in life.
 

Stan The Caddy said:
Thank you for making my argument for me. If Locker was not "found out" this year, there is a good chance he would have put Sam Bradford's contract in his pocket before being "found out." Now with the collective bargaining agreement coming, those rookie mega-contracts are gone and Locker missed his shot. IMO it was a disastrous financial decision.
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If that's what Locker wanted then I agree with you. But i really don't think that is the case. Only a fool would pass up being the #1 pick in the draft, but I guess he is a fool.

And I was saying he was "found out" as a way of contrasting him to Luck, who I believe will not get found out.
 

Panther fans here are devastated. Unfortunately, or perhaps fortunately, the cheap miserable Richardson family will hire the cheapest coordinator they can find to run the team and may very well be equally bad next year.
 

Sota-

Just to clarify, I am not ripping Locker. I am taking it from purely a financial standpoint.
 

Sota-Masochism said:
Yeah, I agree with you on that point. I just wanted to defend him because I think he'll be alright. I dislike when people like us question what these kids should do, whether they leave or they stay. Those who leave do so for their priorities, those who stay do so for the same reason. I know people love money, and the only thing better than money is more money, but I sincerely don't think this kid is going to care if he wrecks his knee, never signs an NFL contract, and goes to work in an architectural firm before becoming a high priced AD later in life.
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I'll make a bold statement that is he is that indifferent towards a NFL career, he won't end up being the #1 pick next year. He made what is probably the proper decision for him, the risk becomes all financial at this piont. I don't think either one of us know what his desire is to play football, although it is probably pretty strong. Best of luck to him.

Maybe he just didn't want to play for the Panthers.
 

Stan The Caddy said:
Sota-

Just to clarify, I am not ripping Locker. I am taking it from purely a financial standpoint.
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Yeah, I think we're on the same page talking about finances. It's simple mathematics that he made a mistake by staying this year when he could've made more money last year.

I admire Locker because I think of him as someone like me who got the chance to play for their favorite team. It would've been a dream of mine to play for the Gophers and lead them to a bowl victory. And I would've stayed for 4 years even if I was going to be the #1 pick :) because I love this team so much, and it's clear he felt the same about U-dub.

For Locker, think Adam Weber, only if the fanbase loved him to death.
 

Silvio said:
I'll make a bold statement that is he is that indifferent towards a NFL career, he won't end up being the #1 pick next year. He made what is probably the proper decision for him, the risk becomes all financial at this piont. I don't think either one of us know what his desire is to play football, although it is probably pretty strong. Best of luck to him.

Maybe he just didn't want to play for the Panthers.
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Maybe he's greedy and thinks he can have the best of all worlds. A Stanford education, success at the college level, a top level draft contract from a better (re: more potential) team than the Panthers, a successful career in the NFL, and a successful life afterwards in whatever he wants to do away from the field.
 

Sota-Masochism said:
Yeah, I think we're on the same page talking about finances. It's simple mathematics that he made a mistake by staying this year when he could've made more money last year.

I admire Locker because I think of him as someone like me who got the chance to play for their favorite team. It would've been a dream of mine to play for the Gophers and lead them to a bowl victory. And I would've stayed for 4 years even if I was going to be the #1 pick :) because I love this team so much, and it's clear he felt the same about U-dub.

For Locker, think Adam Weber, only if the fanbase loved him to death.
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Yep, we are on the same page today, especially since you took a shot at gopherbadgerman on another thread! :D:D:D
 

His only risk of staying at school is injury. I'm sure he has the ins policy signed already. The reward, however, is a chance to prolong the college experience as BMOC, chase a natl championship, and get his degree.


The risk to entering the draft is greater, IMO. He will be a top 5 pick this year or next, doesn't matter. Both drafts will be signed under the slot system, next years slot will be more $ as I'm sure it will go up each year. If he leaves now he will spend all next football season going stir crazy because Stanford will be playing football while the NFL will be in a lockout.
 


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