Alumni marching band towards the stadium!

Oh that is Washington....sorry I read University.

No problem....the 2 way 4th street solves the problem. It is GAME day....special things should happen on that day.

GM
 

For game day it would be permanently split pre-game for ease of traffic into the area.....not a nightmare.

It is done all the time at other arenas/stadiums around the country. Reversing 1 way streets.

GM

That makes sense and I think this is a pretty good idea. In your earlier post I thought you were saying to switch it up for the short period of time.
 

Sorry no. We'll see. Thanks for the light rail information. That will be a great way to get on campus for the "shared" area tailgating. Our west bank spots will be ideal for them hopping the bus, train...or gasp..walking across the bridge like many of us did for years.

Go Gophers!

GM
 

That makes sense and I think this is a pretty good idea. In your earlier post I thought you were saying to switch it up for the short period of time.


This is still not terrebly feasable. There are other things going down around there inclouding access to hospitals, etc. As much as several people on this board would like to think, Gopher football does not rule the world, and while you and many others may think "gameday" is special, there are many more who don't want to deal with trying to keep straight which street is open and drivable which way and when.

Let the U have a year to figure out traffic patterns, timelines etc without added troubles and then once they know what the hell they are doing, because I GUARANTEE you Sat the 12th will be an absolute cluster F*ck for traffic around campus, then they can expand plans.
 

What I don't get is for Vikings games, they shut down every road near the dome for 4-5 hours at a time, 10 times a year (not including playoffs). Yet they can't find a way to stop traffic on University for 10 minutes 7 times a year on the U campus?
 


5th St. SE

1. 5th St. SE is not a thru street and so does not carry the traffic of University, 4th or Washington.

2. 5th leads to the Berman Complex.

3. The Band can stay at the Stadium and form and alley to the Team Lockerroom entrance. Thereby saving their legs.

4. The players can ride on an open wagon/float or ride their scooters to the Stadium down 5th.

5. Frats/ fans can create costumes/floats themed for that day's opponent and lead/or follow the team to the stadium.

6. After the team has entered the Stadium the band lead the pep rally and then break into small groups or rest.

This allows for a processional, doesn't block much traffic and saves the bands legs. Instead of the Band Marching the fans will do the marching!!!!!!!
 

not driving down University for a short period of time, but ask some people to wait for 40 mins, on game days is like asking for their first borns. It worked once and can again. Do you bitch that Chicago Ave is closed for 6 + hours about 90 times a year? It would be the major path to the Dome, if open.
What I don't get is for Vikings games, they shut down every road near the dome for 4-5 hours at a time, 10 times a year (not including playoffs). Yet they can't find a way to stop traffic on University for 10 minutes 7 times a year on the U campus?

I honestly couldn't care less about this issue either way, but I had to chime in here. This is one of the silliest analogies ever. Even with Chicago closed, there are literally hundreds of other ways to get to the Dome (including light rail, bus, etc.). With University closed, beginning in 2010 there would be exactly one way to get to TCF from the west: 5th St. And, I will reiterate earlier posts, that is not a through street. Yeah, good luck with that one.
And, again, to repeat earlier postings, it would be shut down for much longer than "10" or "40" minutes at a time. You cannot compare it to most other college stadiums because hardly any are contained within a metro area, with multiple large hospital facilities close by.
 

What I don't get is for Vikings games, they shut down every road near the dome for 4-5 hours at a time, 10 times a year (not including playoffs). Yet they can't find a way to stop traffic on University for 10 minutes 7 times a year on the U campus?

Exactly. The roads in front of TCF shouldn't even be open. They should be full of foot traffic (like at many, many, many other stadiums on gameday). We're talking about closing a short 4 blocks of University for 20 minutes or so (typically, the band doesn't stop when it marches, so cars can simply follow the band down University (its a one way road heading in the same direction as the band)). Traffic can easily be routed around the backside of TCF bank stadium. There is only one parking garage on this route.

If people are expecting traffic to run smoothly on game days or that they can just show up to campus 10 minutes before gametime and park and see kickoff, it ain't gonna happen, with or without the marching band coming down University.
 

Now people are just making stuff up.

If the ambulance needed to get through...it would...people would get out of the way. University is NOT the most direct route the hospital...Oak st would be.
 



I love the band and I regularly arrived early enough to hear their little concert in front of the dome before each game.

That said, I do not have strong feelings about the march down University. Given their new home (within the stadium itself) it does seem odd to me that they'd have to be bussed/moved so they can march back to the location where they started from. They are no longer based in Northrup. TCF is not located at the exact same location as Memorial Stadium. Things are different, things have changed.

Why not incorporate these new realities into new game day band traditions rather than force something that did make sense in years past? Either way, I plan to soak in the band and everything else on game days... regardless of where they perform.
 

Now people are just making stuff up.

If the ambulance needed to get through...it would...people would get out of the way. University is NOT the most direct route the hospital...Oak st would be.

BUt if University is closed, then Oak would have to remain open...right at the front door of TCF.

Its a fine tradition, but the way campus is set up now from a transportation projection, there needs to be at least one or two games first, because the U has no idea what they are doing, what to expect, and what will happen.

Once they get this figured out then they can look at additional ideas, but between traffic flow, people flow and everythign else, they will have enough trouble on thier hands not screwing something up on the 12th.

I'm looking foward to everything, but it won't go smoothly outside the stadium from a logistical perspective, I mens wearhouse guarantee it.
 

No it wouldn't. Ambulances get through where ever they need to. The road doesn't have to remain open for all traffic....just emergency traffic. The cones or barriers would be easily moved if they needed to get through.

GM
 

I love the band and I regularly arrived early enough to hear their little concert in front of the dome before each game.

That said, I do not have strong feelings about the march down University. Given their new home (within the stadium itself) it does seem odd to me that they'd have to be bussed/moved so they can march back to the location where they started from. They are no longer based in Northrup. TCF is not located at the exact same location as Memorial Stadium. Things are different, things have changed.

Why not incorporate these new realities into new game day band traditions rather than force something that did make sense in years past? Either way, I plan to soak in the band and everything else on game days... regardless of where they perform.


The sane voice of reason...

There will be new and different experiences generated for the next several years. Many of them will become "traditions" we can all love and support till the end of our days.

You just can't plan too much stuff as these things develop on their own over time...
 



Schnauzer & Forestlaker

The 2 voices of sanity.

Why are we married to the march down University Ave? Because we did it back at the old stadium.

It is a new era with a new stadium. The band marched down University because that was the best way to get to the stadium from their HQ at Northrup Auditorium. The band is now HQed at TCF Bank Stadium. Why have the band go from TCF to 15th & University, just to have them march back?

Let's look at Forestlaker's pre-game. It is a very doable program.
 

Silly?

dp: "This is one of the silliest analogies ever."
If you live in the Cities I can't think of alternate routes for getting to campus...I don't even know what to say. It's an almost exact analogy. Does nobody have the ability to think in more then one direction? I can get to the stadium area from each of the Cardinal directions without University easily. If you show up early there won't even be much traffic. Hennepin Ave from the west, Energy Parkway or University from the east, Washington Ave exit, turn at Grandma's cross the speed trap bridge form the south, and Johnson ave exit. It's not like every lot is on University, if fact very few of them are...I have even mentioned I-94 and Huron, Franklin Ave, or the East River Road...
Tell me you thought about that before claiming silliness. One way to the stadium, you have got to be joking...
 

Reading Comprehension 101

Here was my quote:

"With University closed, beginning in 2010 there would be exactly one way to get to TCF from the west: 5th St.

Hennepin Ave from the west

Huh??? Since when does Hennepin Ave bring you to campus? I've never tried that route. I'll have to do that sometime soon...

Energy Parkway or University from the east

Again, irrelevant, as I said from the west.

Johnson ave exit

What are you even talking about here? Are you talking about taking the Johnson Ave exit off 35W southbound? And then taking the backroads to eventually come in from the north on 15th Ave? Clearly, this is a feasible route for the thousands of people coming into campus from the north and west.

The fact is that we will no longer have Washington beginning next season. And if you close University, you will force people to drive further and come in from the south or east, thus clogging those arteries even further. And just because you get to the game early with little traffic, doesn't mean that everyone else comes that early. Accept that fact and deal with it.

Also accept the fact that things change, and new traditions will grow over time in the new stadium. We don't have to force things that haven't happened for almost 30 years just because a certain segment of the population wishes it to be so.
 

From The west you cross I-35

"Huh??? Since when does Hennepin Ave bring you to campus? I've never tried that route. I'll have to do that sometime soon..."
On Hennepinn, you go to se 14th to Como past Van Cleve park to 15th then wherever you need to go around campus.. Maybe you should try it or, I don't know, buy a map.

"What are you even talking about here? Are you talking about taking the Johnson Ave exit off 35W southbound? And then taking the backroads to eventually come in from the north on 15th Ave? Clearly, this is a feasible route for the thousands of people coming into campus from the north and west."
Yeah it only works for hundreds and possibly thousands of students every morning.

"Backroads" as if University (3 lane road )is a major highway. I never said that it was not going to take a tiny bit of thinking. Washington's clousure does not effect my suggestions at all. The Washington I mentioned is not closing for the light rail project, so your reading comprehention read some work as well.
 

You know what what?

Forget it, you're right, I'm wrong. It was a terrible idea to suggest anybody takes anything but University from the west. That way I can go my way and have absolutely no traffic no worry about. Everybody, please ignore my eariler posts.:) I can't believe i gave away one of my better route just 'cause you called me silly. THAT was truly silly.
 




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