All Things 2025 Playoffs and Bowl Thread

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GophersInIowa said:
They should reseed after each round. The #1 seed has the hardest opponent of the 3 other teams left.
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Ideally, that would be great but it also would cause some downstream logistical challenges for travel, especially for the fanbases hoping to attend.
 

Ope3 said:
Ideally, that would be great but it also would cause some downstream logistical challenges for travel, especially for the fanbases hoping to attend.
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How so? If you're say a Miami fan, you would just have to wait another day to start making plans. Unless you're saying fans make plans before they even know if their team advances?
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
Do you think Nike makes massive ROI on their investment into Oregon? If yes, it would seem strange why they wouldn't do this with 8-10 more teams.
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Nike pays a lot of schools to be Nike schools


Just not as much as they pay Oregon


Would be impossible to itemize which contact makes its money back and which doesn’t but they pay around 40 of the p4 schools.
 


GophersInIowa said:
How so? If you're say a Miami fan, you would just have to wait another day to start making plans. Unless you're saying fans make plans before they even know if their team advances?
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Hot take, if they reseeded to give Indiana the lowest seed they would be playing the third best team not the worst. And Oregon would get rewarded by playing the worst team because the committee is bad at their job
 


GophersInIowa said:
How so? If you're say a Miami fan, you would just have to wait another day to start making plans. Unless you're saying fans make plans before they even know if their team advances?
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Some do, yes, also charter-travel companies have laid the groundwork for either/or scenario. I'm not saying it's the end all-be all consideration, but it is a factor.
 

Some guy said:
Hot take, if they reseeded to give Indiana the lowest seed they would be playing the third best team not the worst. And Oregon would get rewarded by playing the worst team because the committee is bad at their job
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Miami is so up and down. Their offense isn't great and Indiana doesn't shoot themselves in the foot. Oregon is Indiana's toughest matchup IMO.
 

GophersInIowa said:
Miami is so up and down. Their offense isn't great and Indiana doesn't shoot themselves in the foot. Oregon is Indiana's toughest matchup IMO.
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Speaking of travel, I would guess Oregon and a lot of fans are just staying out east since they just played in Miami instead of going back to Eugene and then back to Atlanta.
 

GophersInIowa said:
Miami is so up and down. Their offense isn't great and Indiana doesn't shoot themselves in the foot. Oregon is Indiana's toughest matchup IMO.
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Maybe.
But the point is if you wanted to give Indiana the easiest game it is ole Miss and reseeding doesn’t give you that

I suppose there is a chance that ole miss carves up Indiana too like they did the whole SEC….but I don’t see it against any of those three defenses.


In the SEC only one team played any defense (Oklahoma) and that team doesn’t play offense
 
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Some guy said:
Maybe.
But the point is if you wanted to give Indiana the easiest game it is ole Miss and reseeding doesn’t give you that

I suppose there is a chance that ole miss carves up Indiana too like they did the whole SEC….but I don’t see it against any of those three defenses.


In the SEC only one team played any defense (Oklahoma) and that team doesn’t play offense

And Oklahoma beat ole Miss anyways
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Or they could let the highest seed left pick who they want to play. That would add a lot of drama.
 


Some guy said:
Nike pays a lot of schools to be Nike schools


Just not as much as they pay Oregon


Would be impossible to itemize which contact makes its money back and which doesn’t but they pay around 40 of the p4 schools.
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Companies literally project this every day.
 

GophersInIowa said:
They should reseed after each round. The #1 seed has the hardest opponent of the 3 other teams left.
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I would listen to arguments against your take, but in the end, earning the #1 seed based on the body of work of an entire season should be rewarded.

I would also completely skip the neutral bowl sites for every game leading up to the Semifinals, too. A few of these games had just terrible fan atmospheres unless it was just poor TV production and sound buffering.
 



Unregistered User said:
Nike pays the schools to be their provider
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I get that but we're sort of conflating two things.

Nike has the "brand" deals with schools. Phil Knight also gives a ton of money to help fund Oregon's NIL - specifically. One poster argued that Phil Knight has a tremendous ROI into that NIL fund

I understand the return on brand deals. I'm asking about Phil Knight's contributions to Oregon's NIL funds. I'm not pretending to know the answer to that question, I'm asking why the previous poster is confident in his claim they are making money from that decision. I'm not even saying that poster is wrong, I'm just curious why they believe what they do.

My thought was that he was conflating these two things as well, but I could be wrong.
 

Slim Tubby said:
I would listen to arguments against your take, but in the end, earning the #1 seed based on the body of work of an entire season should be rewarded.

I would also completely skip the neutral bowl sites for every game leading up to the Semifinals, too. A few of these games had just terrible fan atmospheres unless it was just poor TV production and sound buffering.
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How I would do it based on this year's dates.

Round 1: Friday, Dec 5 and Saturday Dec 6 at higher seed
Quarterfinals: Friday Dec 12 and Saturday Dec 13 at higher seed
Semifinals: Saturday Dec 20 at rotating bowl games
Championship: New Year's Day at the Rose Bowl (always at the Rose Bowl)

That means no conference championship. It gives teams with a bye some time off but not as much. There's some quick turnarounds if you play that first Friday but so be it. Not much different than the regular season.
 
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50PoundHead said:
Yesterday (and Friday night as well) was all about QB play. The better QB won each game in the quarterfinals.

As a bonus, Prince Hillbilly (Smart) isn't going to win the National Championship. Dabo will always be King Hillbilly. And before everyone gets all out of joint and paints me as a cultural elitist, I come from a family of the Minnesota equivalent of Hillbilliness and didn't live in a house that had running water and a dial telephone until I was six years old.
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I assume your defining people south of the Mason-Dixon Line as a hillbilly, otherwise this is retarded.
 

This will be the dumbest thing you'll hear today, guaranteed. I'm not sure if there are people that hate college football overall more than the people that cover it and talk about it for a living.

 

GooningGopher said:
I assume your defining people south of the Mason-Dixon Line as a hillbilly, otherwise this is retarded.
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Not all folks south of the Mason-Dixon line are hillbillies and you'll note that I wrote "Minnesota equivalent" to describe my early years.
 

GooningGopher said:
I assume your defining people south of the Mason-Dixon Line as a hillbilly, otherwise this is retarded.
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It's "you're," hillbilly.

Also, "people" in this sense is plural, so your use of "a hillbilly" is incorrect.

People are hillbillies.
 






Bob_Loblaw said:
I get that but we're sort of conflating two things.

Nike has the "brand" deals with schools. Phil Knight also gives a ton of money to help fund Oregon's NIL - specifically. One poster argued that Phil Knight has a tremendous ROI into that NIL fund

I understand the return on brand deals. I'm asking about Phil Knight's contributions to Oregon's NIL funds. I'm not pretending to know the answer to that question, I'm asking why the previous poster is confident in his claim they are making money from that decision. I'm not even saying that poster is wrong, I'm just curious why they believe what they do.

My thought was that he was conflating these two things as well, but I could be wrong.
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The only thing I can think of trying to value the ROI of the NIL fund would be good will, and I don’t think that would transfer to another school.

If I’m a fan of Oregon, or Alum or have a child going there, etc. I may be able to tell myself that it is ok to donate to Oregon, buy more Nike stuff, etc. since Knight is an alum, Nike has a huge presence there, etc. etc.

If Knight donated a lot to Minnesota, I don’t think that would change my shopping or donation plans.

So, there may be some added return to Oregon with this association, but that would be difficult to quantify
 


Very disappointed that Dukes Mayo bowl has them eating "normal" food so far. They had crabcakes that had a touch of mayo included. They specifically said no Oreos tonight.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
Companies literally project this every day.
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Yeah. Project =\= know

But yes some schools command more than others based on their guesses

And I’m guessing Oregon is outside of a break even model

I am not sure nike breaks even on Oregon but they pay dozens of schools to wear Nike
 



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