All Things 2025 Minnesota Vikings In-Season Thread

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kg21 said:
We don't run the ball well and our qb's have little time to throw and are getting hammered.

I believe what my own eyes see, sir!
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How many total running plays this season when both of our pro bowl tackles have been on the field? Let alone not playing backups on the interior (excluding the Center, because the dude is done).

Per usual, not an honest bone in any of your posts about line play. Judging outcomes is not judging line play.
 



GophersInIowa said:
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It’s not too commonly I agree with orlovsky but this is spot on. Kwesi with a massive swing and miss this offseason with who he lot walk vs who he brought in. Health has been an issue, but that’s also your job to pick up depth and not overpay just a starting lineup like everyone will be healthy, particularly when you chose to pay a bunch of guys with injury concerns.

Again it’s an old, experienced roster with a bunch of aging holes. I’d love it for once if we’d just go best player available in the draft to try to get some young guys with talent in house instead of trying to play offseason madden and signing older guys as stop gaps. At some point we need to rebuild/retool and that’s ok as that’s the natural life cycle of any team who does not have a star franchise qb in todays nfl
 



upnorthkid said:
It’s not too commonly I agree with orlovsky but this is spot on. Kwesi with a massive swing and miss this offseason with who he lot walk vs who he brought in. Health has been an issue, but that’s also your job to pick up depth and not overpay just a starting lineup like everyone will be healthy, particularly when you chose to pay a bunch of guys with injury concerns.

Again it’s an old, experienced roster with a bunch of aging holes. I’d love it for once if we’d just go best player available in the draft to try to get some young guys with talent in house instead of trying to play offseason madden and signing older guys as stop gaps. At some point we need to rebuild/retool and that’s ok as that’s the natural life cycle of any team who does not have a star franchise qb in todays nfl
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I'm not sure I'd put that all on Kwesi. The signings they made were largely applauded by fans and analysts. They're just not performing.
 

GophersInIowa said:
I'm not sure I'd put that all on Kwesi. The signings they made were largely applauded by fans and analysts. They're just not performing.
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We all love to play name recognition. ESPN gave us a C+ on our offseason and hated the Allen signing and thought we overpaid for multiple guys while giving us just 1 top 50 move this offseason. Bleacher report a B-/C+

Problem is locally fans got aggressively oversold on how good these moves were by basically every local pundit while if you looked at their actual gradings this would been the much more expected outcome. Think people trusted kwesi and pulled many of the right strings last offseason with the FA class

I was hopeful we would look better but was really skeptical of the OL signings particularly which we all know tanked us last year down the stretch watching Darnold get cracked in the pocket repeatedly the last 2 weeks of the season and we tried to patchwork a secondary with retreads that had flamed out elsewhere but were told Flores would make it work (despite that he plays a system that puts your dbs on an island constantly and lives on turnovers).

That said, they still have things in their own hands. 5 division games and 9 conference games left so they have room to make hay and move up
 

I suspect the players knew from summer on that the team lacked a qb. Explains the fits and starts for the talent on defense. Just showing up and gettjng to next year. Sad.
 



kg21 said:
Um, the pats have been ass for close to a decade, sir!
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3 seasons since their last playoff appearance is "close to a decade"?!?

2022 they were just 1 game under.500. Not exactly an abyss.

They have actually been to 3 Super Bowls in the past decade and won 2.
 

golf said:
PD guys yesterday were saying that due to Eric Wilson taking on a starting role, there is a good chance we will only receive one comp pick next season. A 3rd rounder for Darnold.

They said for us to get a second comp pick, it is important that Cam Robinson keeps starting for the Browns.

The good news just keeps on coming ...
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Here's some good news, if the standings remain the same, the Vikings will enjoy playing the 4th Place schedule in 2026.

Glass half full.
 





There was some discussion earlier this week on this thread regarding the Vikings status regarding comp picks for next draft.

Here is an article explaining that Vikes are tracking toward just one pick. Unfortunately.

vikingsterritory.com

Vikings Rumors Simmer on Comp Pick Hell, a Trade with the Patriots, Michael Jurgens

The Minnesota Vikings rumor mill zeroes in on comp pick chaos, a potential trade with the Patriots, and offensive lineman Michael Jurgens.
vikingsterritory.com vikingsterritory.com
 

Ope3 said:
3 seasons since their last playoff appearance is "close to a decade"?!?

2022 they were just 1 game under.500. Not exactly an abyss.

They have actually been to 3 Super Bowls in the past decade and won 2.
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Ruh Roh😎

FACTS are not his strong suit😂
 






upnorthkid said:
We all love to play name recognition. ESPN gave us a C+ on our offseason and hated the Allen signing and thought we overpaid for multiple guys while giving us just 1 top 50 move this offseason. Bleacher report a B-/C+

Problem is locally fans got aggressively oversold on how good these moves were by basically every local pundit while if you looked at their actual gradings this would been the much more expected outcome. Think people trusted kwesi and pulled many of the right strings last offseason with the FA class

I was hopeful we would look better but was really skeptical of the OL signings particularly which we all know tanked us last year down the stretch watching Darnold get cracked in the pocket repeatedly the last 2 weeks of the season and we tried to patchwork a secondary with retreads that had flamed out elsewhere but were told Flores would make it work (despite that he plays a system that puts your dbs on an island constantly and lives on turnovers).

That said, they still have things in their own hands. 5 division games and 9 conference games left so they have room to make hay and move up
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Yes.
Also interesting Matthew Coller did a quick study of the the top 100 picks of each of the 4 drafts that Kwesi has overseen.
He said Vikings had a total of 8 picks in that range over the four yrs. While Lions had 15 and Packers 16.
Kwesi's two trades to move up for Turner cost us a lot of draft capital especially.
 
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golf said:
Yes.
Also interesting Matthew Coller did a quick study of the the top 100 picks of each of the 4 drafts that Kwesi has overseen.
He said Vikings had a total of 8 picks in that range over the four yrs. While Lions had 15 and Packers 16.
Kwesi's two trades to move up for Turner cost us a lot of draft capital especially.
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That’s a really good point. The draft is your easiest access to good cheap depth as well
 

golf said:
Yes.
Also interesting Matthew Coller did a quick study of the the top 100 picks of each of the 4 drafts that Kwesi has overseen.
He said Vikings had a total of 8 picks in that range over the four yrs. While Lions had 15 and Packers 16.
Kwesi's two trades to move up for Turner cost us a lot of draft capital especially.
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Kwesi would do a lot better if he just stayed in his draft slot and picked the #1 player at a position of need off of any decent draft cheat sheet. That's how we got Addison and Donovan Jackson. We'd have Kyle Hamilton and probably 2-3 solid players instead of Lewis Cine, Ed Ingram, Dallas Turner etc.
 

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