All Things 2024 Minnesota Twins In-Season Thread

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Happy 67th birthday to Jesse Orosco!

His 1,252 appearances are the most in MLB history.

He pitched for the Twins in 2003, at age 46 . . . 25 years after they originally drafted him!

The final pitch of his career resulted in a walk-off strikeout. True story.
 




saintpaulguy said:
I was at my third of the season today. I get the weather is not ideal, but crowds have been pretty poor. People are waiting to see hope.
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From a spectator standpoint, they're a very hard team to enjoy watching. Obviously the hitting is atrocious right now. But even when they're playing ok, it still involves average runs scored and lots of strikeouts. It involves your younger talent being pinch hit for midway through the game. It's a starting pitcher getting pulled after 75-80 pitches even when they're playing well.

Sometimes the moves work, sometimes they don't. And I get many of the decisions that are made. But as a fan though, I think it's easy to get frustrated and annoyed when these moves end up backfiring. Or when you constantly see guys put in poor approaches and at-bats with runners on base.

And then you add in not adding talent in free agency, and it's easy to see why attendance is poor and will probably continue to be poor.
 

Giving up 6 runs on 7 hits while stranding 7 is an amazing accomplishment by the twins. Louie gonna start next at CHS Field is my guess?
 

GophersInIowa said:
From a spectator standpoint, they're a very hard team to enjoy watching. Obviously the hitting is atrocious right now. But even when they're playing ok, it still involves average runs scored and lots of strikeouts. It involves your younger talent being pinch hit for midway through the game. It's a starting pitcher getting pulled after 75-80 pitches even when they're playing well.

Sometimes the moves work, sometimes they don't. And I get many of the decisions that are made. But as a fan though, I think it's easy to get frustrated and annoyed when these moves end up backfiring. Or when you constantly see guys put in poor approaches and at-bats with runners on base.

And then you add in not adding talent in free agency, and it's easy to see why attendance is poor and will probably continue to be poor.
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Like this crap. Or taking Larnach out yesterday for Margot against a lefty even though we all knew Detroit would counter by bringing in a right hander.

 

I brought this up last year. Rocco manages like Mr. Burns. The righty/lefty match up is all that matters. Piles and piles of data available and the only one they look at is what side of the plate the batter stands on.
 



Even if the Twins get healthy and rebound to where they were expected to be in terms of winning percentage, the assumption that the rest of the AL Central would continue to stink appears to be ill conceived.

I don't know if Cleveland is going to run away and hide, but they at least appear solid. So does KC and to a lesser extent Detroit.
 

Breakin' The Plane said:
I brought this up last year. Rocco manages like Mr. Burns. The righty/lefty match up is all that matters. Piles and piles of data available and the only one they look at is what side of the plate the batter stands on.
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Ah pitching hitting Homer for Strawberry won Burns the power plant championship and a million dollar bet.

Now as for Rocco if you want to manage the twins you must agree with the direction of the front off boys otherwise you are out.

I don’t feel there is any decision that is truly in Rocco’s hand to make. He’s basically a puppet for the front officeZ
 


Ope3 said:
Even if the Twins get healthy and rebound to where they were expected to be in terms of winning percentage, the assumption that the rest of the AL Central would continue to stink appears to be ill conceived.

I don't know if Cleveland is going to run away and hide, but they at least appear solid. So does KC and to a lesser extent Detroit.
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Cleveland has played nearly half their games against the As and White Sox. Let's see in two weeks.
 



howeda7 said:
Cleveland has played nearly half their games against the As and White Sox. Let's see in two weeks.
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Yes, but to finish above.500 at this point all the Guards have to do is go 66-74. If they do that at minimum it would be a tough task for the Twins to pass them.

They certainly can cool off, I just don't see them as being trash.
 

Ope3 said:
Yes, but to finish above.500 at this point all the Guards have to do is go 66-74. If they do that at minimum it would be a tough task for the Twins to pass them.

They certainly can cool off, I just don't see them as being trash.
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We’re already doing this? In April? The season is 162 games. Things ebb and flow.

Sorry, but this is one of my biggest pet peeves in baseball.
 


From the Parkinglot said:
Ah pitching hitting Homer for Strawberry won Burns the power plant championship and a million dollar bet.

Now as for Rocco if you want to manage the twins you must agree with the direction of the front off boys otherwise you are out.

I don’t feel there is any decision that is truly in Rocco’s hand to make. He’s basically a puppet for the front officeZ
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Can't disagree. It still astounds me that they were able to find a Rhode Island Italian with absolutely no fire/passion who is completely devoid of a backbone.
 




WilliamsArenaGuy said:
We’re already doing this? In April? The season is 162 games. Things ebb and flow.

Sorry, but this is one of my biggest pet peeves in baseball.
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For the Twins to finish 83-79 they will have to pick up the pace and go 76-66. How likely does that seem in their current state?

Sure there are ebbs and flows and at this juncture as well as this being a small sample size. Totally justifiable in your prerogative to discount it. I'm not conceding anything as far as the Twins hopes in winning the Central.

However, the math is the math.

My initial post (#1030) was simply pointing out that part of the equation that made the Twins solid favorites to repeat winning the Division was that the rest of the field finished sub-.500 in 2023. That seems less likely. For now. Things can change and as Twins fans that's what we have to hope for, even if it is nothing more than blind faith.
 

TRF Guy said:
The Twins traded fan-favorite Tom Brunansky for clubhouse cancer Tommy frickin' Herr on this date in 1988.
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10 year old me mailed a letter to Carl Pohlad telling him how heartbroken I was and how it was an awful decision. Never received my reply.
 

Ope3 said:
For the Twins to finish 83-79 they will have to pick up the pace and go 76-66. How likely does that seem in their current state?

Sure there are ebbs and flows and at this juncture as well as this being a small sample size. Totally justifiable in your prerogative to discount it. I'm not conceding anything as far as the Twins hopes in winning the Central.

However, the math is the math.

My initial post (#1030) was simply pointing out that part of the equation that made the Twins solid favorites to repeat winning the Division was that the rest of the field finished sub-.500 in 2023. That seems less likely. For now. Things can change and as Twins fans that's what we have to hope for, even if it is nothing more than blind faith.
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The one positive outlook is that the Twins have played to this point teams that are a combined 68-43 and all are above .500. Tonight they start a stretch of 10 games in a row against teams under .500. Hopefully can get on a bit of a roll.
 

Ope3 said:
For the Twins to finish 83-79 they will have to pick up the pace and go 76-66. How likely does that seem in their current state?

Sure there are ebbs and flows and at this juncture as well as this being a small sample size. Totally justifiable in your prerogative to discount it. I'm not conceding anything as far as the Twins hopes in winning the Central.

However, the math is the math.

My initial post (#1030) was simply pointing out that part of the equation that made the Twins solid favorites to repeat winning the Division was that the rest of the field finished sub-.500 in 2023. That seems less likely. For now. Things can change and as Twins fans that's what we have to hope for, even if it is nothing more than blind faith.
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In Gleeman’s column today, it sounds like things will be shaken up a bit, not as aggressive as I’d like, but something is better than nothing - details TBA. SWR sounds like he’ll get a start in Caly over the weekend.

Lee’s back injury is more severe than first imagined and he’s being treated by a back specialist in Caly, who specializes in treating pro athletes - he’ll likely play this year, but won’t be on any field until likely after the all-star game (my guess).

Definitely need to win 3 of 4 over Chi, to have a chance to play meaningful games later this summer.


theathletic.com

Twins takeaways: Louie Varland's spot at risk; Brooks Lee, Royce Lewis, Carlos Correa updates

Plus, the latest on the return timelines for Max Kepler and Jhoan Duran, and another Twins pitcher lost to elbow surgery.
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GophersInIowa said:
The one positive outlook is that the Twins have played to this point teams that are a combined 68-43 and all are above .500. Tonight they start a stretch of 10 games in a row against teams under .500. Hopefully can get on a bit of a roll.
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True.

But on the negative side, 3 of those teams that contributed to the 68-43 record are the Royals, Guards and Tigers whom the Twins are competing with in the AL Central and currently are 5-7 against head-to-head.

I'm not to the point yet of saying It's getting late early, but it's getting there.

8 games back in late-April. Still time to recover, no doubt, but....uffda.
 

Gopher_In_NYC said:
Lee’s back injury is more severe than first imagined and he’s being treated by a back specialist in Caly, who specializes in treating pro athletes - he’ll likely play this year, but won’t be on any field until likely after the all-star game (my guess).
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Yikes, hopefully not a John Castino situation.
 





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