All Things 2021 Minnesota Timberwolves Off-Season Thread




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Jeez did he go the route of Norwood here or something? Nothing basketball wise screams fire the guy at this point.
 

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Rosas though D'Lo was good enough to build around............

I'm good with this
 




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Jon K was just on KFAN, he made it seem like the media is all sitting on some info that is less than positive on Rosas and his management style. He also said that while this was Taylor's decision, that ARod and Lore were involved in the decision.

I'll be curious if there is a faction one way or another that is pushing for or against us pursuing Simmons. Was Rosas pushing for him and potentially jeopardizing the future or was he too stuck on DLo and not willing to go all in to turn this around more quickly.

One thing is for sure, as jamiche has often said, the Wolves offseason is always the most interesting part of the year!

Howl Wolves!!
 




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Does hiring Brand make it more likely or less likely the Wolves can land Simmons?
 

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RandBall: Timberwolves need to get Ben Simmons now or prepare to trade Karl-Anthony Towns later

The last time the Timberwolves were relevant, Jimmy Butler was leading them to 47 wins and a playoff berth in 2017-18 as the unquestioned best player on that team. Yes, better than Karl-Anthony Towns. Twice as good as Andrew Wiggins.

That brief window of relevancy slammed shut when Butler, unsatisfied after one year here, orchestrated a trade. The Wolves tried to make it work, but then things got VERY uncomfortable and they ended up trading him to the 76ers for three players who are not on the roster anymore and never appeared in a playoff game.

Since trading Butler, the Wolves are 74-131. Jimmy has been to the NBA Finals. So yeah.

As our Chris Hine deftly pointed out today — and I discussed on Wednesday's Daily Delivery podcast — the escalating situation with Ben Simmons in Philadelphia feels like Butler all over again.


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Good riddance. Banging the secretary and being disliked by everyone else in the front office means you get fired.

Don't...ever....hire...Elton Brand.
 

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Good riddance. Banging the secretary and being disliked by everyone else in the front office means you get fired.

Don't...ever....hire...Elton Brand.
I heard we're hiring Chris Babcock.
 



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The perennial upheaval that has been a hallmark of the Timberwolves franchise struck again Wednesday when the team fired President of Basketball Operations Gersson Rosas just a few days before training camp begins.

Sachin Gupta will assume day-to-day operations on the basketball side while keeping his title as executive vice president of basketball operations. The team, which gave no reason for the sudden dismissal, will hold a search for a permanent replacement for Rosas.

"Today, the Minnesota Timberwolves parted ways with President of Basketball Operations Gersson Rosas," owner Glen Taylor said through a team-issued statement. "As an organization, we remain committed to building a winning team that our fans and city can be proud of."

"We are committed to staying aligned to achieve our short-term goals and reach our long-term vision."

Rosas' permanent successor will be the fifth person in charge of basketball operations since Kevin McHale left the franchise in 2009.

Taylor made the call to fire Rosas, sources said, in conjunction with new owners Marc Lore and Alex Rodriguez, who are on a path to become controlling owners in 2023..

Throughout the past few months there has been a growing discord and strained relationships among Rosas, the front office and the rest of the organization, sources said. The Wolves decided to make change in leadership now before training camp opens next week instead of having that linger into the season..


 


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Does this mean D-Lo is going to be traded for Simmons or is D-Lo going to stay?
 

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Does this mean D-Lo is going to be traded for Simmons or is D-Lo going to stay?

Simmons' agent is Rich Paul. Paul also manages Anthony Davis & LeBron James. Think he's partners with James in a business or two. Rumor has been that Simmons wants to go to the West Coast. Add in what Philly is asking for in return, 1 or two starters and 2-3 future 1st Round pick, and Simmons ain't coming here.

Who knows if Russell stays, but he's not being traded for Simmons.

That said, nobody knows what'll happen in the NBA.
 

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More info is coming out:

People inside the organization have been put off by him at times, and the latest issue to surface was seemingly the final straw. One other employee of the team also left abruptly Wednesday.


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More info is coming out:

People inside the organization have been put off by him at times, and the latest issue to surface was seemingly the final straw. One other employee of the team also left abruptly Wednesday.


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I figured that’s what it would be given the very odd timing of him getting canned.
 

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Prior to the announcement, The Athletic had spent the last several weeks investigating the working environment under Rosas and interviewed numerous sources on the current staff about the situation after learning of mounting discontent. Some said Rosas worked his staff long hours without giving much input into the decision-making process. Others took issue with decisions made on personnel moves and trades, including the light protections on a first-round draft pick that landed them D’Angelo Russell from Golden State, Rosas’ signature move.

“It’s hard,” one member of the organization who followed Rosas to Minnesota after he was hired said. “He’s not who I thought he was.”

Rosas also had several backers in the organization, who said the current issues they were facing were more related to the pandemic and the stress brought on by the ownership change than Rosas’ leadership style.

Some of the issues were exacerbated this summer when Rosas and Gupta butted heads over Rosas’ decision to block Gupta from making a lateral move to the Houston Rockets with increased pay, sources said. Rosas said the timing of the request, coming right before the draft and free agency, made it impossible for the Timberwolves to let someone with as much proprietary knowledge of the team’s plans go to a competitor. The tension between Rosas and Gupta only grew later in August when Rosas banished Gupta from the team’s offices and granted him permission to seek employment elsewhere, according to sources. The issue was resolved in early September after ownership got involved and Gupta decided to stay.

Earlier in the year, Rosas drew criticism when then-coach Ryan Saunders was fired immediately after a road game loss in New York and replaced with a hire outside the organization, with no minority candidates or others given a chance to interview for the position. Some were also unhappy with the way Saunders was taken to New York on a road trip only to be fired immediately after the game. The decision to part ways with Zarko Durisic, a beloved longtime scout who had been with the organization for more than two decades, did not sit well with some in the organization either.

“Zarko had an incredible career here in Minnesota and really did a great job while he was here,” Rosas said in August. “Just a different stage in his career for us and different stage of where we’re at as an organization. The Ryan decision was one where, after studying, after evaluating, we knew we needed to make change.”..

 

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Chip: Can Karl-Anthony Towns, author of perfect Timberwolves tweet, take much more of this?


The team's star tweeted a short, succinct message on Wednesday, three letters strung together to form an acronym that articulates the reaction to not only one decision but three decades of organizational dysfunction:

W. T. ... And you already know the last letter.


Perfectly stated, Karl-Anthony Towns. Your franchise provided another what-the moment with the firing of President of Basketball Operations Gersson Rosas a week before the start of training camp.

Did Rosas deserve to be fired? Unflattering details about his management style are starting to emerge, along with reports of an inappropriate relationship with a team employee.

Bigger-picture question: Will this sad-sack franchise ever appear competent or organized? Heck, the team even misspelled its own name in the news release announcing Rosas' dismissal, referring to themselves as the "Timberwovles."


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The wolves off-season starts next week. For the other teams it’s the start of the NBA season.
Anybody who thinks the wolves will be run any less chaotically if (not when) ARod and Lore take majority ownership are dreaming. These guys are all flash and not enough cash to play with the big boys of the NBA. As we know, ARod is a liar and a cheat. Always has been and that’s not going to change. Lore once beat a retired Jerry Rice in a race. Who cares? The point is they don’t have the money to buy the team or they would own the team. That’s how it works. My guess is they are looking for investors. Ownership transition instability means the kind of stuff like what happened yesterday will continue.
 
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The wolves off-season starts next week. For the other teams it’s the start of the NBA season.
Anybody who thinks the wolves will be run any less chaotically if (not when) ARod and Lore take majority ownership are dreaming. These guys are all flash and not enough cash to play with the big boys of the NBA. As we know, ARod is a liar and a cheat. Always has been and that’s not going to change. Lore once beat a retired Jerry Rice in a race. Who cares? The point is they don’t have the money to buy the team or they would own the team. That’s how it works. My guess is they are looking for investors. Ownership transition instability means the kind of stuff like what happened yesterday will continue.
Exactly right. Flim-flam men. Lore is rich, but not rich enough to buy a team. A-Rod is rich, but not even remotely rich enough to buy a team. He's in for the glam.
 

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Prior to the announcement, The Athletic had spent the last several weeks investigating the working environment under Rosas and interviewed numerous sources on the current staff about the situation after learning of mounting discontent. Some said Rosas worked his staff long hours without giving much input into the decision-making process. Others took issue with decisions made on personnel moves and trades, including the light protections on a first-round draft pick that landed them D’Angelo Russell from Golden State, Rosas’ signature move.

“It’s hard,” one member of the organization who followed Rosas to Minnesota after he was hired said. “He’s not who I thought he was.”

Rosas also had several backers in the organization, who said the current issues they were facing were more related to the pandemic and the stress brought on by the ownership change than Rosas’ leadership style.

Some of the issues were exacerbated this summer when Rosas and Gupta butted heads over Rosas’ decision to block Gupta from making a lateral move to the Houston Rockets with increased pay, sources said. Rosas said the timing of the request, coming right before the draft and free agency, made it impossible for the Timberwolves to let someone with as much proprietary knowledge of the team’s plans go to a competitor. The tension between Rosas and Gupta only grew later in August when Rosas banished Gupta from the team’s offices and granted him permission to seek employment elsewhere, according to sources. The issue was resolved in early September after ownership got involved and Gupta decided to stay.

Earlier in the year, Rosas drew criticism when then-coach Ryan Saunders was fired immediately after a road game loss in New York and replaced with a hire outside the organization, with no minority candidates or others given a chance to interview for the position. Some were also unhappy with the way Saunders was taken to New York on a road trip only to be fired immediately after the game. The decision to part ways with Zarko Durisic, a beloved longtime scout who had been with the organization for more than two decades, did not sit well with some in the organization either.

“Zarko had an incredible career here in Minnesota and really did a great job while he was here,” Rosas said in August. “Just a different stage in his career for us and different stage of where we’re at as an organization. The Ryan decision was one where, after studying, after evaluating, we knew we needed to make change.”..

I finally took a few minutes to read the entire article in The Athletic. Pretty deep dive, very informative. Whatever Jon K is getting paid by that place probably isn't enough. To cover a shit show like Taylor and the Wolves as well as he does, it's quite an achievement.

Uggghhh...
 

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I'm surprised no one has memed this yet. DumpsterFire2.jpg
 




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