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So we stand with:

PAC 12: 12 teams and need 4 to 16
BIG 10: 14 teams and need 2 to 16
SEC : 14 teams and need 2 to 16

So that is 8 open spots to fill.

4th 16 teams conference + 8 open spots leave 24 spots if four (16 team) superconferences is the final destination. Subtract Notre Dame and there are 23 spots. When will the helmet schools of the Big East, Big 12 and ACC realize they need to organize and start forming the 4th Superconference?
 

The only thing I care about in this whole thing is that we play Wisconsin, Iowa, and Nebraska every single year.
 

oh, so you're saying Teague and Kill had inside information when they bought out of the UNC games. The whole time they knew they could not have them on the non-conference schedule when they were going to be in the conference. If they waited too long, the selection of non-conference opponents would be more limited.



MaxyJR1 said:
This will be how it goes down I believe. I think the Big Ten will try to get to 16 quickly. Rumors of UNC, Georgia Tech already out there. How about two division of 8 and you play seven division games and then 1/2 of other division? 11 conference game and 1 freebie for non conference. I'd then like them to do what MPLS./St.PAUL do for HS championship. 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, and so on. Every team would then get 13 games. More money, more money.
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Stanger86 said:
Can someone make a map with the reported divisions?
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Gopher07 said:
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i am sorry, but for the sake of competitive balance between the two divisions indiana and northwestern should really be switching spots as well. why purdue-indiana is being protected is BEYOND me.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
So we stand with:

PAC 12: 12 teams and need 4 to 16
BIG 10: 14 teams and need 2 to 16
SEC : 14 teams and need 2 to 16

So that is 8 open spots to fill.

4th 16 teams conference + 8 open spots leave 24 spots if four (16 team) superconferences is the final destination. Subtract Notre Dame and there are 23 spots. When will the helmet schools of the Big East, Big 12 and ACC realize they need to organize and start forming the 4th Superconference?
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I think the ACC is fine. They don't need to dissolve. The conferences that need to join together are the Big East and Big 12, along with some from the Mountain West.

Who's left in the Big East that actually is...out East? UConn is reported as a Maryland replacement in the ACC, and of course Rutgers is reportedly following Maryland here. Temple, Memphis, Navy...is that it? Temple should've stayed in the A-10, Memphis could join a new Big 12, and Navy goes back to independent status.

Big 12 would keep its current teams, maybe hoping for a Memphis, or something joined with the old C-USA schools. PAC 12 could get schools like San Diego State, or try for Texas and Oklahoma again.

As for the B1G getting to 16, look first at the UNCs or Virginias reported. If not, schools like Louisville or Cincinatti out east or the Kansas schools to the south and west. Ultimately, I see Virginia FAR more likely than UNC, though.
 



Stanger86 said:
I think the ACC is fine. They don't need to dissolve. The conferences that need to join together are the Big East and Big 12, along with some from the Mountain West.

Who's left in the Big East that actually is...out East? UConn is reported as a Maryland replacement in the ACC, and of course Rutgers is reportedly following Maryland here. Temple, Memphis, Navy...is that it? Temple should've stayed in the A-10, Memphis could join a new Big 12, and Navy goes back to independent status.

Big 12 would keep its current teams, maybe hoping for a Memphis, or something joined with the old C-USA schools. PAC 12 could get schools like San Diego State, or try for Texas and Oklahoma again.

As for the B1G getting to 16, look first at the UNCs or Virginias reported. If not, schools like Louisville or Cincinatti out east or the Kansas schools to the south and west. Ultimately, I see Virginia FAR more likely than UNC, though.
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UVA and Louisville would make a lot of sense for adding new states and geographically touching existing states. Cincinnati makes no sense unless that added TV's in KY. Already have OH.
 

I wish we picked up Missouri, and I wish we picked up VA Tech
 

ACC will dissolve.

B1G will add UNC and UVA to get to 16.

SEC will add NCST and VaTech to get to 16.

BigXII will add Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami, Louisville and one other (maybe Pitt to throw a bone to WV) to get to 16.

Pac-12 won't give a *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# because their the only game in town on the west coast.

There are your super conferences ladies and gentlemen. Get used to em.
 

westcoastgopher11 said:
ACC will dissolve.

B1G will add UNC and UVA to get to 16.

SEC will add NCST and VaTech to get to 16.

BigXII will add Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami, Louisville and one other (maybe Pitt to throw a bone to WV) to get to 16.

Pac-12 won't give a *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# because their the only game in town on the west coast.

There are your super conferences ladies and gentlemen. Get used to em.
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It will be interesting to see if 16 or 18 is the number. I saw a tweet by Zach Johnson at GI talking about about how 18 makes more sense. You have two divisions of 9 and each team will play 8 division games. Preserves being able to play home non-conference games (cupcakes). It then leads to conference championships putting teams into the four team playoff.

For example the Big 10 could be:

West
Nebraska
Iowa
Kansas
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Illinois
Northwestern
Michigan
Michigan State

EAST
Purdue
Notre Dame
Indiana
Ohio State
Penn State
Rutgers
Maryland
North Carolina
Georgia Tech
 



This is a half-serious question. Would Jerry Kill have considered Maryland or Rutgers too strong a non-conference opponent?
 

westcoastgopher11 said:
ACC will dissolve.

B1G will add UNC and UVA to get to 16.

SEC will add NCST and VaTech to get to 16.

BigXII will add Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami, Louisville and one other (maybe Pitt to throw a bone to WV) to get to 16.

Pac-12 won't give a *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# because their the only game in town on the west coast.

There are your super conferences ladies and gentlemen. Get used to em.
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My thoughts exactly. And will happen very soon. Florida State wants out very bad and this latest move will likely push them over the edge.
 

Delany: No divisional lineups have been discussed

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...ders-legends-lineups-20121120,0,5459067.story

Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delany expressed skepticism Tuesday about a report that said Maryland and Rutgers would play in the Leaders division, with Illinois moving to the Legends.

“I have absolutely no idea where that came from,” Delany told the Tribune. “We have not had discussion one about that. Just because it’s out there doesn’t make it true.”

An ESPN.com report said that Maryland president Wallace Loh had told the school’s board of regents that the Terrapins and Scarlet Knights would join Ohio State, Wisconsin, Penn State, Indiana and Purdue in the Leaders.

That would leave the Legends as Nebraska, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Northwestern, Iowa and Illinois.

“That is a bad lead,” Delany said.

A Big Ten official added that conference athletic directors have not had any discussions about how Maryland and Rutgers will fit in.
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First of all, I hate this. I thought the addition of Nebraska was perfect and was hoping it would stay that way. All this does is water-down the conference.

The Illinois move to the Legends division makes the most sense. I also hope this means they're adding another conference game.
 

I want no part of Kansas being in the Big10 conference because of basektball and there football program stinks and is rebuilding like ours so that says a lot. The only Big12 school left that has the academics to be part of the Big10 in the west and Midwest is Iowa State. There isn't another team in the Big12 that could measure up to the academic standards with the exception of Baylor. They should add to Big East schols, Syracuse and Pittsburgh and that is it, those are the only Big East schools that cut it academically. East would be Penn State, Pitt, Maryland, Rutgers, Ohio State, Indiana,Purdue an Wisconsin.
West is Michigan, Nebraska, Northwestern, Ilinois, Northwestern, Iowa, Minnesota, Michigan State. 16 Teams total,
8 division opponents crossover game, 3 non-conference games.
 

Add UNC & UVa

4 4-team pods

Pod A - Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Nebraska
Pod B - Illinois, Indiana, Northwestern, Purdue
Pod C- Michigan, Michigan St, Ohio St, Penn St
Pod D - Maryland, North Carolina, Rutgers, Virginia (the new guys)

9 conference games

3 vs your pod
4 vs your paired pod for the season
1 vs one team in the remaining pods

The championship would be the team in each pair with the best record.

The pods would rotate every 2 years (eg. A & B C & D, for 2, followed by A & C B & D for 2, then A & D B & C for 2)

Just a thought.
 


Ski U Mah Gopher said:
Add UNC & UVa

4 4-team pods

Pod A - Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Nebraska
Pod B - Illinois, Indiana, Northwestern, Purdue
Pod C- Michigan, Michigan St, Ohio St, Penn St
Pod D - Maryland, North Carolina, Rutgers, Virginia (the new guys)

9 conference games

3 vs your pod
4 vs your paired pod for the season
1 vs one team in the remaining pods

The championship would be the team in each pair with the best record.

The pods would rotate every 2 years (eg. A & B C & D, for 2, followed by A & C B & D for 2, then A & D B & C for 2)

Just a thought.
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Flip Indiana and Purdue with Michigan and Michigan State. If we go to 9 game schedules it will allow for permanent crossovers to be protected too.

Home and home with every team in the conference every six years? That's probably as good as its gonna get in the age of super conferences.
 

westcoastgopher11 said:
Flip Indiana and Purdue with Michigan and Michigan State. If we go to 9 game schedules it will allow for permanent crossovers to be protected too.

Home and home with every team in the conference every six years? That's probably as good as its gonna get in the age of super conferences.
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I can live with your tweak.
 



What does it mean to the B10 composite schedule. With 8 games and a bye could we still have a 9 week season? I suspect that there be something to having an odd dividend when dividing the total number of teams by two that dictates a longer season or the need to have more than two teams take their bye together. Has anyone taken a look at the SEC schedule to get an idea? It might not be a perfect comparison as they have always started conference play earlier. I remember trying to develop a balanced schedule in fantasy football with ten teams split between two divisions. It was a major PITA.
 

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