2025 high school football thread

[Some guy]

You can read their policy in the online handbook. It’s actually quite interesting. 32 is based on the smallest number for a class to allow a State tournament. And you have 4 sections of 8. For all has one too many classes I believe. Dump 6A back into 5A and you’d go the top 64. 6A didn’t ask for 6A. #33 through 64 did. Wayzata is the largest at around 3,700 and 64 school would be around 1500.

If you think Minneapolis South and St. Paul Harding should be in the top class by using real enrollments. I can’t agree with that.

I have a secret plan to fix it all.

And it involves 48 teams per class.
6 teams per section.
Your schedule is 5 in your section and self schedule 3 games. You can play a team from another class if 4 teams agree to play from another class to make the classes “whole”

4/6 teams make a 32 team playoff per class designed like the current 6a bracket (not exactly but similar)
5 and 6 seeds play a 9th game against another 5 or 6 seed.
This seeding is done via section record and coaches vote essentially.

A class is “full” at 48
Section from the top down.
The last class will be bigger than 48

Benefits.
Guarantees teams at least 2 games against non playoff teams.
Guarantees teams can play up to 3 games against teams they’re not assigned to to preserve rivalries. This also gives flexibility to play between classes.
This makes 2/3rd of schools have a degree of success they can sell to the community “made the playoffs”
Fixes MEA Wednesday, Tuesday, Saturday because one fewer round of playoffs in lower classes (wed/th, Fri, Fri)

Downfalls
Not all teams make playoffs
Not all sections created equal. In theory, A 4-4 (1-4) team could miss playoffs in one section while a 1-7 (1-4) team could be in a 3 way tie for 4th and make the playoffs in another.

 

[Gopherwatcher]

I have a secret plan to fix it all.

And it involves 48 teams per class.
6 teams per section.
Your schedule is 5 in your section and self schedule 3 games. You can play a team from another class if 4 teams agree to play from another class to make the classes “whole”

4/6 teams make a 32 team playoff per class designed like the current 6a bracket (not exactly but similar)
5 and 6 seeds play a 9th game against another 5 or 6 seed.
This seeding is done via section record and coaches vote essentially.

A class is “full” at 48
Section from the top down.
The last class will be bigger than 48

Benefits.
Guarantees teams at least 2 games against non playoff teams.
Guarantees teams can play up to 3 games against teams they’re not assigned to to preserve rivalries. This also gives flexibility to play between classes.
This makes 2/3rd of schools have a degree of success they can sell to the community “made the playoffs”
Fixes MEA Wednesday, Tuesday, Saturday because one fewer round of playoffs in lower classes (wed/th, Fri, Fri)

Downfalls
Not all teams make playoffs
Not all sections created equal. In theory, A 4-4 (1-4) team could miss playoffs in one section while a 1-7 (1-4) team could be in a 3 way tie for 4th and make the playoffs in another.

So how does that last class work with more than 48 teams?

 

[Some guy]

So how does that last class work with more than 48 teams?

This is likely an issue in both the smallest 11 man class and the 9 man class.

Depends on how many teams but:
Sections will be more than 6.

So a section of 8 will have 7 games vs section and one self scheduled
A section of 7 will be paired with another section of 7.
Every team will play 8 games amongst those 14 teams and 6 of them will be against your section (2 vs other section).
A different set up could be done if a swap is agreed upon by 4 teams.


Not even sure who co-oped or opened or stopped playing football this year. But for the last two year cycle there were 58 9 man teams.

This means 9 man would’ve been 4 sections of 8 and 4 sections of 7. Each section of 7 would be paired with another odd numbered section for scheduling.

11 man football there were 244 teams in the last two year cycle.

Top 48 = class 1
Next 48 = class 2
Next 48 = class 3
Next 48 = class 4
Next 48 = class 5
Last 52 = class 6 (either 6 sections of 6 and 2 sections of 8 OR 4 sections of 6 and 4 sections of 7 paired with another section of 7).

This would mean in class 1-5 67% of teams would make playoff.
In class 6 62% of teams would make playoff
In 9 man 55% of teams would make playoff.



If the new numbers have an odd number of teams it will create and issue regardless of what system you use