2017 Wins Over/Under?

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Early over/under totals are starting to come out. So far, this one has 50 teams, Gophers not listed:


Alabama 10.5 -150o
Arizona 5.5
Arkansas 7
Auburn 8
Clemson 9
Colorado 7.5 -125u
Duke 5.5

Florida 8 -120u
Florida State 9.5 -130o
Georgia 8
Georgia Tech 6.5
Indiana 5.5
Iowa 6.5 -120u
Kansas State 7.5 -125u

Kentucky 6 -130o
Louisville 9 -120o
LSU 9 -120o
Miami 8.5 -120u
Michigan 9
Michigan State 6.5 -130u
Mississippi State 5.5

Missouri 6.5 -120o
Nebraska 6 -125o
North Carolina 7
NC State 7.5
Northwestern 7
Ohio State 10 -125o
Oklahoma 9.5 -145o

Oklahoma State 9
Oregon 8
Penn State 9.5 -125u
Pittsburgh 7.5
South Carolina 5.5 -125u
Stanford 8.5 -130u
TCU 7 -125o

Tennessee 7.5 -130u
Texas 7.5 -120u
Texas A&M 7
Texas Tech 6 -120u
UCLA 6 -135o
USC 9.5 -135o
Utah 6.5 -120o

Virginia Tech 9
Washington 9.5
Washington State 7.5 -125o
West Virginia 7 -120o
Wisconsin 9.5 -125o

http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/19413753/college-football-full-list-unders-cg-technology

Wisconsin seems high, Nebraska seems low, but I'm sure they'll both end up close to those numbers, because, Vegas. I'm guessing the Gophers number will be 6.
 

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My favorite part was the ESPN headline that said "Vegas pegs Tide, Buckeyes for double-digit Ws". Thanks Vegas. Don't know what I'd think without them telling me Alabama and Ohio State will probably win 10+ games.

Outside the B1G I think the Oregon number is high for a team that went 4-8 last year.
 

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My favorite part was the ESPN headline that said "Vegas pegs Tide, Buckeyes for double-digit Ws". Thanks Vegas. Don't know what I'd think without them telling me Alabama and Ohio State will probably win 10+ games.

Outside the B1G I think the Oregon number is high for a team that went 4-8 last year.

They just want some big name teams in the title to attract their fan bases.
 

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It will be interesting when the Gophers line comes out at about 6 (which it will) if the people claiming we should easily win 8+ games will put any money down, or if they are just preemptively posturing to complain about Claeys' firing.

wisconsin at 9.5 seems high, I agree. But I really can't see more than two losses on their schedule in 2017 - they are a machine.
 

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It will be interesting when the Gophers line comes out at about 6 (which it will) if the people claiming we should easily win 8+ games will put any money down, or if they are just preemptively posturing to complain about Claeys' firing.

wisconsin at 9.5 seems high, I agree. But I really can't see more than two losses on their schedule in 2017 - they are a machine.

Who is saying that we will "easily win 8+ games"? People on Gopherhole?
 



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It will be interesting when the Gophers line comes out at about 6 (which it will) if the people claiming we should easily win 8+ games will put any money down, or if they are just preemptively posturing to complain about Claeys' firing.

wisconsin at 9.5 seems high, I agree. But I really can't see more than two losses on their schedule in 2017 - they are a machine.

Any chance one of those losses you see is to us?


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It will be interesting when the Gophers line comes out at about 6 (which it will) if the people claiming we should easily win 8+ games will put any money down, or if they are just preemptively posturing to complain about Claeys' firing.

wisconsin at 9.5 seems high, I agree. But I really can't see more than two losses on their schedule in 2017 - they are a machine.

If you take 6, I'll take the over on that. What do you want to wager?
 




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It will be interesting when the Gophers line comes out at about 6 (which it will) if the people claiming we should easily win 8+ games will put any money down

Yes. I will. I think we will start 7-0.


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"Easiest Schedule in Big 10" + New Coach + No experienced QB = 6.5 for the over / under
 

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With as much speculation as these kinds of predictions incorporate into the mix, why the half game? There are no ties in college football, it's a win or a loss, its 6 wins or 7, 7 or 8, etc. so if I bet Over on a team rated as a 6.5 win team I can't feel good with the 3/4 of a win my team earned.
 




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With as much speculation as these kinds of predictions incorporate into the mix, why the half game? There are no ties in college football, it's a win or a loss, its 6 wins or 7, 7 or 8, etc. so if I bet Over on a team rated as a 6.5 win team I can't feel good with the 3/4 of a win my team earned.
They should all have half games. No pushes. Win or lose.
 

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They should all have half games. No pushes. Win or lose.
To expand a bit 12 game conference schedule and no bowl game you need the half game. That also applies to conference championship games and a bowl game and any other way you end up with a even schedule.
 

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It will be interesting when the Gophers line comes out at about 6 (which it will) if the people claiming we should easily win 8+ games will put any money down, or if they are just preemptively posturing to complain about Claeys' firing.

wisconsin at 9.5 seems high, I agree. But I really can't see more than two losses on their schedule in 2017 - they are a machine.

Are you giving me the over on 6 wins, or not?
 

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Are you giving me the over on 6 wins, or not?

I mean - not for any serious amount of money because I think 7 wins is just about as likely as 5 or 6 but, yeah, I'd take a single $20 bet just to back up my claims...truthfully I think we will probably end up pushing.
 

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I mean - not for any serious amount of money because I think 7 wins is just about as likely as 5 or 6 but, yeah, I'd take a single $20 bet just to back up my claims...truthfully I think we will probably end up pushing.

Cool. You got yourself a wager. Good luck.
 

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I mean - not for any serious amount of money because I think 7 wins is just about as likely as 5 or 6 but, yeah, I'd take a single $20 bet just to back up my claims...truthfully I think we will probably end up pushing.

Once again, you don't understand the definition of "homer." Change your screen name to something that fits your persona.
 

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Nebraska at 6, Iowa and MSU at 6.5, Northwestern at 7.

Not a lot expected from 7/9 of our conference schedule. Have to believe low numbers for Purdue, Illini and Maryland.

IA, NE, MSU, MD, IL all in same boat as MN with no proven, experienced QB. Michigan loses NFL talent at 18 or 19 spots.

I would say 9 for Harbaugh reflects lowered expectations.
 

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Early over/under totals are starting to come out. So far, this one has 50 teams, Gophers not listed:


Alabama 10.5 -150o OVER
Arizona 5.5 OVER
Arkansas 7 NO BET
Auburn 8 NO BET
Clemson 9 NO BET
Colorado 7.5 -125u UNDER
Duke 5.5 OVER

Florida 8 -120u OVER
Florida State 9.5 -130o OVER
Georgia 8 PUSH
Georgia Tech 6.5 OVER
Indiana 5.5 UNDER
Iowa 6.5 -120u OVER
Kansas State 7.5 -125u UNDER

Kentucky 6 -130o NO BET
Louisville 9 -120o NO BET
LSU 9 -120o NO BET
Miami 8.5 -120u OVER
Michigan 9 NO BET
Michigan State 6.5 -130u UNDER
Mississippi State 5.5 OVER

Missouri 6.5 -120o UNDER
Nebraska 6 -125o OVER
North Carolina 7 NO BET
NC State 7.5 UNDER
Northwestern 7 NO BET
Ohio State 10 -125o OVER
Oklahoma 9.5 -145o OVER

Oklahoma State 9 OVER
Oregon 8 UNDER
Penn State 9.5 -125u NO BET
Pittsburgh 7.5 OVER
South Carolina 5.5 -125u NO BET
Stanford 8.5 -130u NO BET
TCU 7 -125o NO BET

Tennessee 7.5 -130u NO BET
Texas 7.5 -120u OVER
Texas A&M 7 OVER
Texas Tech 6 -120u NO BET
UCLA 6 -135o OVER
USC 9.5 -135o NO BET
Utah 6.5 -120o NO BET

Virginia Tech 9 NO BET
Washington 9.5 OVER
Washington State 7.5 -125o OVER
West Virginia 7 -120o OVER
Wisconsin 9.5 -125o UNDER

http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/19413753/college-football-full-list-unders-cg-technology

Wisconsin seems high, Nebraska seems low, but I'm sure they'll both end up close to those numbers, because, Vegas. I'm guessing the Gophers number will be 6.

ARE THESE OVER UNDERS INCLUDING BOWL GAMES? Conference championship games?

Or just regular season. This is how I'd bet them if just regular season.


I'd probably lose money.
 


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Cool. You got yourself a wager. Good luck.

Cheers. Hopefully I will owe you $20. Also, I assume we are taking Vegas' lead, and over/under are regular season? We probably should have discussed that before agreeing, but I don't want to come off as 'that guy' so I'll take the bet however you honestly thought we were.
 

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Once again, you don't understand the definition of "homer." Change your screen name to something that fits your persona.

Not going to change my name for you, but I did add something to reflect your concerns. Trust me, in the circles in which I exist in real life, I am the resident 'Gopher homer.' Maybe not so much here...
 

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Any chance one of those losses you see is to us?


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Have you seen Wisconsin's schedule? Even if I guaranteed a loss to the Gophers (which being they're at 13 straight wins over the Gophers would be asinine), where would the second loss come from, let alone a third?

Right now they should be heavily favored in every game, except maybe Michigan which they still will likely be favored in. They get the advantage of most of the tougher games at home. Obviously any given day, etc., but unless they play far worse than last year I think they're going to have a really good year, which pains me to admit. Here's hoping Paul Chryst works the same "magic" he worked at Pitt and they end up mediocre with a loss on 11/25... :)

Fri, Sep 1 vs Utah State
Sat, Sep 9 vs FL Atlantic
Sat, Sep 16 @ BYU
Sat, Sep 30 vs Northwestern
Sat, Oct 7 @ Nebraska
Sat, Oct 14 vs Purdue
Sat, Oct 21 vs Maryland
Sat, Oct 28 @ Illinois
Sat, Nov 4 @ Indiana
Sat, Nov 11 vs Iowa
Sat, Nov 18 vs Michigan
Sat, Nov 25 @ Minnesota

For the record if I was setting the Gophers I'd set it at 7 or 6.5 -125 O.
 

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Have you seen Wisconsin's schedule? Even if I guaranteed a loss to the Gophers (which being they're at 13 straight wins over the Gophers would be asinine), where would the second loss come from, let alone a third?

Right now they should be heavily favored in every game, except maybe Michigan which they still will likely be favored in. They get the advantage of most of the tougher games at home. Obviously any given day, etc., but unless they play far worse than last year I think they're going to have a really good year, which pains me to admit. Here's hoping Paul Chryst works the same "magic" he worked at Pitt and they end up mediocre with a loss on 11/25... :)

Fri, Sep 1 vs Utah State
Sat, Sep 9 vs FL Atlantic
Sat, Sep 16 @ BYU
Sat, Sep 30 vs Northwestern
Sat, Oct 7 @ Nebraska
Sat, Oct 14 vs Purdue
Sat, Oct 21 vs Maryland
Sat, Oct 28 @ Illinois
Sat, Nov 4 @ Indiana
Sat, Nov 11 vs Iowa
Sat, Nov 18 vs Michigan
Sat, Nov 25 @ Minnesota

For the record if I was setting the Gophers I'd set it at 7 or 6.5 -125 O.

If you set it at 7, every single person outside of this web site would be betting the 'under.' Not saying 8 wins won't happen, but "7" would not be the smart number to set.
 

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I'd set it at 6.5 looking at our schedule that seems like the best number to get action going both ways, plus we should go 7-5 at the very least IMO, this isn't a total rebuild job
 

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I'd set it at 6.5 looking at our schedule that seems like the best number to get action going both ways, plus we should go 7-5 at the very least IMO, this isn't a total rebuild job

I pretty much agree with every statement in your response. I just think people are overestimating the power/depth of our program as a whole. You don't need to be a "total rebuild" to have the random 4-5 win season with the Gophers. The way in which our roster has been constructed we are always a key injury/bad break away from scrambling to make a bowl. Admittedly, the 2017 schedule is helpful so I don't think 4 wins is remotely possible. I set my personal over/under at 6 a few posts above, but that basically assumes some key injuries. If we are healthy for the entire season, I surely expect to be paying out.
 


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Somewhere between 3 wins, and the maximum number of wins...*

*maybe
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