2 weeks 2 prepare 4 Iowa...what would you like to see happen different offensively?

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short ornery norwegian said:
Jeez, I'm getting sick of this idea that the coaching staff has all these "wonderful" plays that would go for big yards, but they don't use them because they're either stupid or too cautious.

Feel free to disagree, but I believe that the coaching staff is calling the plays they think will work, and they are using the players who they think will do the best job.
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um, duh?
That doesn't make them infallible, or even necessarily correct.

You (and those who share this same opinion) sound exactly like the Tubby homers back on the basketball board, who, given evidence directly in front of them, refused to think (at least for the first four to five years) that Tubby, in all of his "Hall of Fame" coaching glorious ability, could ever make a coaching error. For you all, the coaches always know best, can never make mistakes, and intelligent, game-knowledgeable/experienced people watching from the stands or on HDTV or are following the program from the outside can absolutely never be correct when pointing out their mistakes.

And yet, just like most of those on that same basketball board when the bandwagon turned on Tubby, if/when the S hits the fan, people like you tend to then be one of the loudest voices talking about how that coach has "lost it", or "doesn't understand his players", etc. etc. etc., turn on that staff entirely, and act like you could see it all along.

This coaching staff is doing a nice job with the program, altogether, better than probably the vast majority of the ~125 D-1A college football coaching staffs could do here if the situations were switched. Can the coaching staff do better? "Yes" is always the correct answer to that question; unless the offense scores a TD on every possession and the defense never lets its opponent score, improvement is always an option.
 


cncmin said:
um, duh?
That doesn't make them infallible, or even necessarily correct.

You (and those who share this same opinion) sound exactly like the Tubby homers back on the basketball board, who, given evidence directly in front of them, refused to think (at least for the first four to five years) that Tubby, in all of his "Hall of Fame" coaching glorious ability, could ever make a coaching error. For you all, the coaches always know best, can never make mistakes, and intelligent, game-knowledgeable/experienced people watching from the stands or on HDTV or are following the program from the outside can absolutely never be correct when pointing out their mistakes.

And yet, just like most of those on that same basketball board when the bandwagon turned on Tubby, if/when the S hits the fan, people like you will be one of the loudest voices talking about how that coach has "lost it", or "doesn't understand his players", etc. etc. etc. and act like you could see it all along.

This coaching staff is doing a nice job with the program, altogether, better than probably most of the ~125 D-1A college football coaching staffs could do here. Can they do better? "Yes" is always the correct answer to that question; unless the offense scores a TD on every possession, improvement is always an option.
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Name 3 Gopherholers that say the coaches have never made a mistake.

I'm thinking your drum is getting pretty worn - beat, beat, beat...
 

Spoofin said:
Name 3 Gopherholers that say the coaches have never made a mistake.

I'm thinking your drum is getting pretty worn - beat, beat, beat...
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You're not beating your own drum? Hypocrite, much?
 



2 weeks 2 prepare 4 Iowa...what would you like to see happen different offens...

kellyleeks said:
Of course, the black guy doesn't know how to wear his jersey. Tired of these racist posts.
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Is this real or are you being sarcastic?

I really hope you're being sarcastic. I'm all for poking the bear, but seriously?
 



cncmin said:
um, duh?
That doesn't make them infallible, or even necessarily correct.

You (and those who share this same opinion) sound exactly like the Tubby homers back on the basketball board, who, given evidence directly in front of them, refused to think (at least for the first four to five years) that Tubby, in all of his "Hall of Fame" coaching glorious ability, could ever make a coaching error. For you all, the coaches always know best, can never make mistakes, and intelligent, game-knowledgeable/experienced people watching from the stands or on HDTV or are following the program from the outside can absolutely never be correct when pointing out their mistakes.

And yet, just like most of those on that same basketball board when the bandwagon turned on Tubby, if/when the S hits the fan, people like you tend to then be one of the loudest voices talking about how that coach has "lost it", or "doesn't understand his players", etc. etc. etc., turn on that staff entirely, and act like you could see it all along.

This coaching staff is doing a nice job with the program, altogether, better than probably the vast majority of the ~125 D-1A college football coaching staffs could do here if the situations were switched. Can the coaching staff do better? "Yes" is always the correct answer to that question; unless the offense scores a TD on every possession and the defense never lets its opponent score, improvement is always an option.
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I'm not saying the coaches are perfect. I'm saying they know more about FB than I do. They see the players every day in practice. They watch the game films. They have more information than I do on which to base their decisions, including which players to use and which plays to call.

Yes, I'm a fan - and I'm disappointed when the team plays poorly - but the coaches are not telling Leidner to miss open receivers. The Coaches did not tell Fruechte to lose a pass in the sun. The coaches are not telling defenders to blow assignments. That is on the players. I will keep saying this, because I believe it. Talent and execution will trump play-calling every single time. You cannot trick your way to victory. The Gophers did not lose to Illinois because of play-calling. They lost because of mistakes and turnovers.
 



60's Guy said:
If Berkley Edwards is "lightning in a bottle", then I'd like to see him put in a position to show us that. I'd like to see a screen pass over the middle or sideline wide receiver bubble screen pass to him. Something where he beats one guy and he's gone. I'd like to see the running plays they think he might excel at next year...I'd like to see that now. Don't we have something to get him to the edge? Sweep, pitch or swing pass?

I'd like to see Rodrick wear people down, punish people so Cobb can run free.

I'd like to see us use the gifts Wozniak has. He is a 7 foot guy that fights for the ball and can catch. Put him in a position to succeed.

If Myrick is our fastest guy and if he can routinely catch kickoffs...he can catch passes too. Give him the Edina track kid's go routes...forgot his name at the moment...to open up some space. Some slant routes...stuff that requires nothing but speed and catching the ball. Use the weapons you have.

I have a lot more ideas ha but let's hear what you guys got. I'm not the only Holiday Inn Express offensive coordinator in waiting on here.

Find a way to surprise Iowa.
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1. We finally did get to see Berkley get multi carries once again since game one. The time he got to the edge for 10 yards or so was very exciting.
He seemed to run harder up the middle as he got more carries.
2. Rodrick did punish some people and looked impressive in limited action.
3 "Don't we have something to get him to the edge? Sweep, pitch or swing pass?" We surprised Iowa with Maye as our secret weapon.
He looked great on the jet sweep and as a receiver.
4. Somebody elses suggestion that Streveler get some plays was answered and this surprised Iowa I'm sure and gave some other players hope their time might come to contribute. Streveler got experience and we mixed things up some.
5. Somebody else suggested we use the fullback more instead of Cobb in a one back set all the time. We did this which was something Iowa likely wasn't expecting us to utilize. In doing so the fullback was open for two pass receptions.
6 Leidner has been prevented from running previous to Iowa. Turning Leidner loose gave him the freedom to play relaxed and to his capabilities.
He played great and was effective running for 77 yards. I believe as a result he moved better in the pocket because the chains were off and he could just play. He was once again confident.
The Gophers obviously played great versus Iowa! Hopefully, we mix things up again with Ohio State and are once again creative. I think allowing Leidner to run is important to his play going forward.
 


bottlebass said:
Remember when Spoofin said running all jet sweeps wouldn't work... then they ran it 3 times in a row and it worked each time... then ran it a whole bunch more and more and more and it worked every time
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Ya, thank God, Limegrover reads GH and thought, "Wow, that might work!" Couldn't be that Iowa has some weakness on defense, or the team finally clicked doing it in practice, or or basically Iowa had quit by then.

Very few people defending the OC wouldn't like to see them open it more. It's the piling on after bad games that gets old. You can't possibly watch this staff or read about it like in the article about them preparing for a game and not realize they've calculated everything. It's reward versus risk, building a foundation, setting things up, etc. And, as I've pointed out before, no way is Limegrover not doing exactly what Jerry Kill is telling him what to do.

Myself, I'd like to see a bubble screen or that quick pass swinging out of the backfield. Sure works against us at times. We don't do it though. Near as I can figure is Mitch doesn't get rid of it quickly enough or there's too much of a chance of a turnover. Point is, it's there. They'll know if and when to use it.

Love it when people who said the staff can't develop QB's now go, "See, we told you."
 

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