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2014 they were in the final as well, they did get blown out (7-4 I think) but they did make another final to go along with the one Bob fumbled recently.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/breaking-down-p-j-fleck-as-the-potential-next-virginia-tech-head-coach/ar-AA1OBXYc?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=68f1a9aefd0c4888af5a9c7fc1f04c76&ei=9

45-13 NOT the good guys

Cal trusted their QB, Fleck does not trust ours yet.

NO! I said this guy was very very very good week 1.. could be the number 1 pick next year if he decides to leave school AND he doesn't get hurt this year. He's that good!!

He did it twice...

There isn't a plural in there, and we'll see if the question is asked... and then answered.

This game to me is such a toss-up, it really will depend on penalties and TO's, AND who plays above their usual self. Both coaches are very equal to each other as well so it really boils down to who makes the least amount of mistakes. Flecks teams have shown they are very well disciplined and...

Yes we will, not sure the Gophers showed proof of having a great D in the first game, but yes, we'll see in this game what they're made of! Seemed like they played off the line quite a bit with their DB's which to me didn't show allot of faith in their coverage skills, and those skills will...

Danville, Ca

Yes, I live in the East Bay so I'd heard allot about the 5* QB from Hawaii. Heard allot of what happened at the end of last year and why they lost ALL of their offensive skill players including their QB Fernando Mendoza (starting for Indiana, and who was blamed for changing the Hawaii QB's...

OR a Michigan, when there really wasn't an offside on the kickoff, which allowed them to keep the ball and win by 3... is that the 'element' you're thinking about?

Agreed! This is the problem I think we saw last night. The Receivers just are not top notch receivers (Geers and Taylor are the best even though Geers had a very rough night). The receivers just couldn't get open last night so he just didn't have many options. I was hoping to see him air it...

He had a very solid game and could have been allot better if the receivers helped out but he made a few mistakes as well but very solid. The play calling in the red zone is why they ceased up down there. Passing the ball to get there and trying to run when there.

Good Guys 27-10

I have to admit I was wrong as well. His first 4 games I thought he looked like a High School QB out there playing against college players. He really turned his season around after really the Iowa game which may have opened up his eyes a little as he was great the first half and abysmal the...

They lost their whole offense except their O-line which was abysmal last year and by far the worst part of their offense. I think the Gophers won't have a problem if they play turnover free football or at least win or tie the turnover battle. Their Defense is solid though so our O needs to...

I think what makes it contentious is your stance that the rankings don't matter, when the whole thread is; 'Gophers 2026 class remains in the top 20 nationally, will it stay there? Why do you even respond to this if you feel rankings don't matter? Ignore the thread! You're the one stirring...

I would say 40-50... Their per recruit rank is 87.02, which puts them 16th of 18 in the B1G (Purdue and NW are lower).

Play the young guys, they came back and beat OKC at their place earlier this year. The main guys don't have it tonight..