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Who's playing on Wednesday??? ...NOT the Gophers!

You know this is a fire Coyle back/forth within this thread, right? I made my point and you guys are saying it is far worse. Lemme guess, it's bad but you guys think Coyle should still stay...

I am just saying it sounds like you were against the last coach (because he sucked), against the current coach (because he sucks), and will be against the next coach (if he sucks) but the guy that hires and manages these people is OK. ...and your reasoning is that he is OK because he was too...

I am reading that you guys were big Pitino supporters and am too lazy to go back and look. Is that true?

It's plausible but just a theory. It also takes a bit of dancing around all the facts to assume that Coyle was a victim during his first 8 years of managing the basketball program and now will be the hero if he is ever allowed a chance to finally make his own decisions. Just sayin... if you...

If you are hanging Coyle's career on Fleck it seems thin. Not completely empty but certainly not the hallmark of an AD genius to get the bowl-nod because we have the best grades. Basketball - six years of Pitino and now BJ (and I like Ben and hope runs the table in the B10 Tourney and gets...

Which is exactly why Coyle needs to go. Give Ben another year and then let the new guy judge performance and make the call. Besides, what has Coyle done here anyways?

If this were NOT true it would be the only industry I have ever heard of that did not have paid and unpaid agent provocateurs undermining competitive products. Happens everywhere.

Ohio State/Minnesota/Penn State tied at 9-11 1st Tie Breaker Winning Percentage among the entire group (Rule explicitly states that tied proceed to the next tiebreaker but the others do not): Gophers 3-1 (2 Penn State Wins plus OSU win), Ohio State 2-2 (split with both Gophers and Penn State)...

Mark could say he was overruled, and why, and I would believe him. Until then the basketball program is his responsibility.

Ben is there because Coyle wants him there.

Great, so why are you telling me this? - you should mention it to his boss (who brought him in and is going to give him another year). He could make a change tomorrow morning first thing.

Well just remember that we are paying Mark Coyle 1.4 million dollars (per year) to deliver this garbage.

They we are probably more in agreement than you think except Coyle has hired Ben knowing that he had no experience. Ben came in and had 2 horrible years and now we are finishing 9th or 10th. Not a great trajectory but enough to give hope that players returning and some additions will make...

You get to include the preceding season when judging Coyle, not Ben. The trajectory with Coyle is horrible. If we are judging Ben - he started with no players and no wins the start the trajectory is up. I am not defending Ben here (mind you). Just saying that his trajectory is up over the...

This is not the collapse you guys were looking for and Ben will be back next year. The average prediction here was 9 wins and he has met that. A run in the Big Ten tournament would be gravy. From here the trajectory looks good. If you guys are serious about making it a better program then we...

Mission Accomplished for Ben - he gets another year or two. Coyle on the other hand - I am open to replacing him with one of the guys mentioned above.

The answer is that Ben has most of the D1 coaching skills covered at this point except for one - knowing how to motivate his team on a core phycological level - so it can be kinda hit or miss. This is the one area that might take Ben a dozen years to really figure out if he ever does. A mature...

Are you the same RockChalk that predicted 4 BT wins and USAF had something like 2? I cant imagine how insufferable you guys would be if we had 2 wins right now (of course I would probably have shelved this site until next year and would not be reading any of it)