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In reality though, if Howard was winning, that off court stuff would be brushed away no problem.

He's gotta be top of the list if / when they do move on.

Brutal

This is absolute insanity

I'm sick of trying to rationalize excuses for Ben. It really comes down to that. As was stated by a poster in another thread, if you believe you're a winning program, you don't put up with shit like this. The numbers are awful. We need to have a more competitive mindset as a program. And we...

I think I just heard his name when you mentioned him a couple of years back. His resume is more than worthy of an interview. Texas Tech is a good ball club as well. In year 1 with that staff I believe.

All of this evidence really exemplifies it. Look it's OK that we tried Ben. It's OK that Ben didn't work out. Just move on and don't make the same mistake. If you want to be competitive, you've got to bring in a resume-based competitive coach. Stick to the process of how you hired the below...

I'm not a huge Izzo guy, but Ben could use a lesson in how to work officials.

I'm right with ya here. I don't care how much we improved from last year, if you told me in year 3 that we were not an NCAA team (And likely not an NIT Team) I would not be totally surprised but that doesn't make it OK. I feel like Coyle firing Pitino meant that we wanted to go to another...

I don't really know what to say. I just know we're irrelevant. Which is exactly what the rest of the country expects of Gopher basketball. I'm pissed off and not hopeful of what Ben does with another year. We got outscrapped and outhustled and that's very frustrating to watch. Our defense...

Damnit Garcia, step back 3? Move the ball or drive the ball

Let's get a win, make a little magic here into the weekend

Good point and agreed. Coyle wasn't just going for hype here - Clear message to Ben as well.

I hear ya on this point - But Year 3, 9-11 in a down Big 10 and possibly no postseason tournament? I don't like it. Year 3 should be near peaking. It's not the same as it was 10-20 years ago. I understand a 4th year, but it's getting harder once again to be optimistic.

I think PJ Fleck (And Football) is ultimately how an AD is judged. How much money is that program bringing in? It's been a decent program with Fleck. Not as good as we'd once thought, but it's been good.

Seems like if you're Coyle (Or everyone on this board), you just ask yourself if you truly believe Ben is going to be the guy that elevates this program to where you thought it could get to when you fired Pitino. You've got 3 years of evidence, will 4 make the difference? It seems to lean...

This is surprising and really disappointing as we end the season. I think most of us were feeling good because 1. We were winning / 2. The effort was there The past couple of games, it's not just that we lost. We got hammered and didn't play hard. I don't like that sign at all for a head...

It is interesting how he makes this claim, and then we get housed by IU at home, and NW on the road. Ben really got comfortable with that comment I guess. There's no way we're getting all of our key players back, or at least it doesn't feel like it with how they are playing right now. It...

We are a smart head-coach hire away from success. Tubby was solid hire at the time, definitely elevated the progam. Pitino was option 5 on the list of guys we wanted, still did OK around Tubby's level. Ben has tanked us a bit. Need a guy to bring us back to that Pitino level and raise from there.

Missed watching the game but 90 is a lot to give up to that NW team.