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Not a great take. A skill like "coaching ability" can be developed over time. What you are really trying to say is that we should have hired a coach that had already honed his coaching skills to a high level suitable for a P6 program with high aspirations.

Ben isn't getting fired either. If you want to put pressure on the U to improve this program Coyle is the key. The incoming president (whoever that might end up being) should come in to noisy complaining about Coyle having no idea what he is doing and people demanding that he resign due to...

Interesting that you would bring up the guy responsible for them all.

Dunk or don't dunk. Just don't miss!

Looked like Mitchell sort of lost control on the way up

Lame call on Payne

Who's playing on Wednesday??? ...NOT the Gophers!

You know this is a fire Coyle back/forth within this thread, right? I made my point and you guys are saying it is far worse. Lemme guess, it's bad but you guys think Coyle should still stay...

I am just saying it sounds like you were against the last coach (because he sucked), against the current coach (because he sucks), and will be against the next coach (if he sucks) but the guy that hires and manages these people is OK. ...and your reasoning is that he is OK because he was too...

I am reading that you guys were big Pitino supporters and am too lazy to go back and look. Is that true?

It's plausible but just a theory. It also takes a bit of dancing around all the facts to assume that Coyle was a victim during his first 8 years of managing the basketball program and now will be the hero if he is ever allowed a chance to finally make his own decisions. Just sayin... if you...

If you are hanging Coyle's career on Fleck it seems thin. Not completely empty but certainly not the hallmark of an AD genius to get the bowl-nod because we have the best grades. Basketball - six years of Pitino and now BJ (and I like Ben and hope runs the table in the B10 Tourney and gets...

Which is exactly why Coyle needs to go. Give Ben another year and then let the new guy judge performance and make the call. Besides, what has Coyle done here anyways?

If this were NOT true it would be the only industry I have ever heard of that did not have paid and unpaid agent provocateurs undermining competitive products. Happens everywhere.

Ohio State/Minnesota/Penn State tied at 9-11 1st Tie Breaker Winning Percentage among the entire group (Rule explicitly states that tied proceed to the next tiebreaker but the others do not): Gophers 3-1 (2 Penn State Wins plus OSU win), Ohio State 2-2 (split with both Gophers and Penn State)...

Mark could say he was overruled, and why, and I would believe him. Until then the basketball program is his responsibility.

Ben is there because Coyle wants him there.

Great, so why are you telling me this? - you should mention it to his boss (who brought him in and is going to give him another year). He could make a change tomorrow morning first thing.

Well just remember that we are paying Mark Coyle 1.4 million dollars (per year) to deliver this garbage.

They we are probably more in agreement than you think except Coyle has hired Ben knowing that he had no experience. Ben came in and had 2 horrible years and now we are finishing 9th or 10th. Not a great trajectory but enough to give hope that players returning and some additions will make...