Why did the Lakers sign a guy at the PF position who averaged 11 pts/game to a four year $52M contract instead of LeBron at the minimum?How much does goalpost moving pay Gary?
Gary, are you one of the foremost experts in your field?
I believe James told them he wanted to move on.Why did the Lakers sign a guy at the PF position who averaged 11 pts/game to a four year $52M contract instead of LeBron at the minimum?
I believe James told them he wanted to move on.
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There's always the private story behind the public story. The Lakers said all the right things, as they should. Think about what wasn't said. I haven't seen any comments from management to the effect of "Damn! We tried like hell to keep him for one more title run." The Lakers would have been the perfect place for him to stage his documentary. Huge market, home with the fam, playing with Bronnie, two other stars in their prime, a new, mega wealthy owner, title aspirations every year. LeBron at a reduced salary should absolutely be in that picture. But he's not.Correct, thank you.
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I like your list, although I’d strike KG from the list and add Elgin Baylor and Oscar Robertson. If not for the injuries, Kawhi Leonard would have a great argument also. Dwayne Wade is a good comp for Kobe and the timing of Dr. J’s career (entering the NBA later) keeps him out of the top 10 conversation.Shaq could've been near the best ever. He was a 4.0 talent student who settled for a 3.7.
I'd put everyone below ahead of Kobe for sure. The list isn't in a specific order for rankings.
Jordan
James
Abdul Jabbar
Johnson
Chamberlain
Duncan
Bird
Curry
Russell
Olajuwon
O'Neal
KG
Total speculation to fit your narrative. I happen to believe he realizes he can't win another championship in LA, thus the final move. That, of course, is my speculation to fit the other narrative.There's always the private story behind the public story. The Lakers said all the right things, as they should. Think about what wasn't said. I haven't seen any comments from management to the effect of "Damn! We tried like hell to keep him for one more title run." The Lakers would have been the perfect place for him to stage his documentary. Huge market, home with the fam, playing with Bronnie, two other stars in their prime, a new, mega wealthy owner, title aspirations every year. LeBron at a reduced salary should absolutely be in that picture. But he's not.
The Lakers didn't want him or maybe they didn't want the circus this year. Who knows...
If they'd wanted him at the vet minimum, the TPMLE or the MLE, he'd be there.
That’s how a non-professional would react GaryThere's always the private story behind the public story. The Lakers said all the right things, as they should. Think about what wasn't said. I haven't seen any comments from management to the effect of "Damn! We tried like hell to keep him for one more title run."
Just your opinions (no data), you’re no more of an NBA Insider than anyone else.The Lakers would have been the perfect place for him to stage his documentary. Huge market, home with the fam, playing with Bronnie, two other stars in their prime, a new, mega wealthy owner, title aspirations every year. LeBron at a reduced salary should absolutely be in that picture. But he's not.
The Lakers didn't want him or maybe they didn't want the circus this year. Who knows...
You asked about it and I answered with multiple articles from Paid writers working at national media outlets; a much more compelling story to write, because of the drama, would have been a messy divorce, quoting unnamed sourcesIf they'd wanted him at the vet minimum, the TPMLE or the MLE, he'd be there.
I’m aI like your list, although I’d strike KG from the list and add Elgin Baylor and Oscar Robertson. If not for the injuries, Kawhi Leonard would have a great argument also. Dwayne Wade is a good comp for Kobe and the timing of Dr. J’s career (entering the NBA later) keeps him out of the top 10 conversation.
I never liked Kobe when he played, so I admit some inherent bias here, but I didn’t like Bird either and fully acknowledge his greatness. Kobe’s a top 15 player all-time; that’s a hell of a career! But the cult of placing him in the top 5, much less top 10 is something I don’t see.
Correct. He's in the 11-15 range. That's a great accomplishment.I like your list, although I’d strike KG from the list and add Elgin Baylor and Oscar Robertson. If not for the injuries, Kawhi Leonard would have a great argument also. Dwayne Wade is a good comp for Kobe and the timing of Dr. J’s career (entering the NBA later) keeps him out of the top 10 conversation.
I never liked Kobe when he played, so I admit some inherent bias here, but I didn’t like Bird either and fully acknowledge his greatness. Kobe’s a top 15 player all-time; that’s a hell of a career! But the cult of placing him in the top 5, much less top 10 is something I don’t see.
That's where I would put him, too, but closer to 15 than 11.Correct. He's in the 11-15 range. That's a great accomplishment.
I always pictured you as a Kurt Rambis guyThat's where I would put him, too, but closer to 15 than 11.
Many view Kobe as one of the best "clutch" players in NBA history but that image is skewed dramatically when you factor in his sheer # of attempts compared to others. In reality, Kobe is actually well below average when it comes to clutch time statistics and his unwillingness to trust his teammates.
In fairness, I never cared for Kobe and the rape coverup didn't do much to change that so I certainly have some bias in my opinion. Larry Bird and McHale were my idols as a kid so I despised all things Lakers in the 80s which prevented me from truly appreciating the greatness of Magic and Kareem at the time.
Jerry only won one.I'm not even sure sure Kobe makes the Top 4 Lakers of all time with Kareem, Magic, West and Shaq.
I despised Rambis but did secretly love to watch Bob McAdoo, Jamal Wilkes and Norm Nixon.I always pictured you as a Kurt Rambis guy
Jerry only won one.
The media plays a dumb game about greatness=titles. There's more to it than winning.I despised Rambis but did secretly love to watch Bob McAdoo, Jamal Wilkes and Norm Nixon.
Titles are not the only definition of greatness. The NBA created their entire logo around West for reason. TBF, I was far too young to have seen West play, though.
I was an LA guy, as I had an irrational dislike of Larry.I despised Rambis but did secretly love to watch Bob McAdoo, Jamal Wilkes and Norm Nixon.
Yes that is correct and I actually don’t think Kobe is the second best ever, but like the argument Shaq made and love that he was pimpin his teammate. I also have a very rational dislike for many younger sports fans who getTitles are not the only definition of greatness. They NBA created their entire logo around West for reason. TBF, I was far too young to have seen West play, though.
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Timberwolves ramp up LeBron James pursuit, believe they are real option: Sources
The Timberwolves believe they can provide LeBron James with the kind of environment he needs at this stage of his career.www.nytimes.com
The Timberwolves are ramping up their push for LeBron James, sources tell @TheAthletic. The pitch: Team w/Ant, LaMelo, Jaden, Rudy in championship-starved Minnesota to go after a title that could cement his case for the throne.
“The sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity to describe ongoing deliberations, said the Timberwolves have been in contact with James’ representatives with a bold pitch: team up with Anthony Edwards, LaMelo Ball, Jaden McDaniels and Rudy Gobert to go after the kind of championship that could end any discussion about who is the greatest player of all time.”
If you are going to use a metaphor, the correct one would be raising the hoop, Jarrett.That’s how a non-professional would react Gary
He was there for 8 years, gave then a Championship, made the Lakers a preeminent franchise again and added the star power LA needs.
It was an equitable return for all parties involved; adults shake hands and part company with self-respect still in tact.
Just your opinions (no data), you’re no more of an NBA Insider than anyone else.
You asked about it and I answered with multiple articles from Paid writers working at national media outlets; a much more compelling story to write, because of the drama, would have been a messy divorce, quoting unnamed sources
Alas, real journalists don’t function that way, there’s usually a good reason for any speculation provided, otherwise known as a source.
It’s a national holiday Gary, you can take the day off from any further goal post moving and spend it with your family.
Cheers
To be fair, almost every NBA player is/was a thousand times better than Jarrett Culver.Gary Payton was a thousand times better ballplayer than Jarrett Culver, Jarrett.
Nah , that not in the lexicon of sports smack talk, kiddoIf you are going to use a metaphor, the correct one would be raising the hoop, Jarrett.
Again no proof! Just the warblings of a middle aged smuck, just like me - two smucks in a podI haven't changed my position on anything. I think the Lakers have publicly said all of the right things, as they should. I think privately they didn't want him back
The last three seasons he’s played 71, 70 and 60 regular games. In his 23 season career 1622 regular out of 1886 - 88%, per basketball reference.I think if he joined the wolves w/his camera crew it would be disruptive and counterproductive. For whatever reason, the NBA is very hierarchical. This is now Ant's team and has been for a few years. Blending Melo in, who had "his" team in Charlotte will be a worthwhile and necessary challenge. Adding LeBron, who has been the leader of the league for a couple of decades will further muddy the waters. Having LeBron at age 42 for fifty or so games, while figuring out how to play with him (and Melo) while trying to further optimize Jaden is going to defocus everything.
It’s funny how the wolves disagree because they’re actively pursuing him. Let me gameplan this for you: the owners (who Bron’s agent complimentedStarting the season with Jaden and TJ at the four and figuring it out is far, far from ideal but it's better than trying to blend LeBron in. LeBron isn't used to being blended into anything, especially with a camera crew there.
I never said it was bro. In fact I’ve made light of my own posts, which I did regarding Kobe being ahead of LeBron in this thread. I’ve also acknowledged when others opinions were the correct ones and min weren’t; let me know when you’ve ever done with of those kiddo.This is a message board, Jarrett. People express opinions. Yours is no better or worse than mine.
Thus only works if I said it / trying to label me with it is an airballGary Payton was a thousand times better ballplayer than Jarrett Culver, Jarrett.
Hopefully not a move of desperation.SL coach Nathan Bubes said they're working on having Joan Beringer play some at the four alongside Rocco Zikarsky.
Joan Beringer: "I never played the four before in my life, so it's a big change. But I feel good about [playing the four]and playing with Rocco, so I'm very excited."
I think our best hope at PF is still working out a deal for PJ Washington after DAL added to their depth at the position by trading for Aldama. (Green & TSJ for PJ?)Hopefully not a move of desperation.
Might be more of, "What do we do if Rudy is out a while."Hopefully not a move of desperation.
I'm more interested in what people do than what they say, Jarrett. LeBron could have stayed with the Lakers for close to nothing and freed up a lot of money. Instead they are paying some guy who averaged 11pts/game mid teens to play pf. I don't care if LeBron's agent said nice things about Lore/ARod. Is he supposed to call them assholes? The NBA is a little village like anyplace else.Nah , that not in the lexicon of sports smack talk, kiddo
Again no proof! Just the warblings of a middle aged smuck, just like me - two smucks in a pod
The last three seasons he’s played 71, 70 and 60 regular games. In his 23 season career 1622 regular out of 1886 - 88%, per basketball reference.
It’s funny how the wolves disagree because they’re actively pursuing him. Let me gameplan this for you: the owners (who Bron’s agent complimented), Connolly and
Man are all in on acquiring Bron), in addition to a majority of the posters on here.
If Funch is the coaching savant you claim him to be, it won’t be any big deal.
The Bulls likely don’t win their second threepeat without acquiring Rodman, you grab a HOFer if you can.
I never said it was bro. In fact I’ve made light of my own posts, which I did regarding Kobe being ahead of LeBron in this thread. I’ve also acknowledged when others opinions were the correct ones and min weren’t; let me know when you’ve ever done with of those kiddo.
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And that’s why I only included they last threeI'm more interested in what people do than what they say, Jarrett. LeBron could have stayed with the Lakers for close to nothing and freed up a lot of money. Instead they are paying some guy who averaged 11pts/game mid teens to play pf. I don't care if LeBron's agent said nice things about Lore/ARod. Is he supposed to call them assholes? The NBA is a little village like anyplace else.
LeBron has averaged 61 games/year over the last five years. Whoever signs him shouldn't plan on that at age 42, especially if they want him to be an asset in the playoffs.
Rodman was 34 when he joined the Bulls and he knew his place in the locker room.
I like big swings -bravoBefore you showed up around here I posted that Adrian Peterson couldn't turn the corner after the first preseason game of his rookie year.
You give me waaaay to much credit, thanksYou've posted a lot of stupid things on this board. Nothing as bad as that.
Speaking of which, timberwolves summer league starts on the 9th at 2:30 centralLamelo trade can't be finalized until the 9th