Texas Tech transfer quarterback Brendan Sorsby is checking into a residential treatment program for a gambling addiction.

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GophersInIowa said:
I'm not sure this isn't a good thing for him anyways. Take a year off, show NFL teams you've gotten your life together, and then his opportunities might open up a lot more the following year.
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And in the meantime DraftKings can put him on the payroll to keep him afloat. NFL would probably be OK with that.
 

zman said:
And in the meantime DraftKings can put him on the payroll to keep him afloat. NFL would probably be OK with that.
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He could reprise the old Sy Sperling Hair Club for Men ads. Younger posters won't remember Sy's ubiquitous television ads in the 1970s and 1980s in which he would say "Not only am I the Hair Club President, but I'm also a client."
 

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CFL bars QB Brendan Sorsby following NCAA gambling allegations - 3DownNation

The Canadian Football League will not allow Brendan Sorsby to sign a contract with any of its nine teams, nor can a team claim his exclusive rights. “Upholding the integrity of the league and ensuring fair competition are paramount to the CFL,” the league wrote in a statement to 3DownNation...
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CFL bars QB Brendan Sorsby following NCAA gambling allegations - 3DownNation

The Canadian Football League will not allow Brendan Sorsby to sign a contract with any of its nine teams, nor can a team claim his exclusive rights. “Upholding the integrity of the league and ensuring fair competition are paramount to the CFL,” the league wrote in a statement to 3DownNation...
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Word is Paul Crewe is about to retire so he might get an opportunity to play for Mean Machine.
 

It's too bad Jimmy Swaggert has left the mortal coil. He could have counseled Sorsby on the art of the tear-soaked over-the-top public apology in order to regain his previous standing.

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mngg11 said:
Don't you have to be an NFL player to be part of the NFLPA??? I plan on suing as well if that's not the case
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IF not holding a supplemental draft is a violation of the CBA that the NFL and NFLPA have negotiated, then Sorsby being a member or not is irrelevant.
 

Wouldn't be the first time Kessler has taken on the NFL and won

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_L._Kessler

He litigated a number of landmark sports-antitrust cases while at Weil, including McNeil v. The NFL, which led to the establishment of free agency in the National Football League (NFL).
 



But I don't see anything about any suit filing going through yesterday, so it's probably too late.

Sorsby may have just decided to take his punishment and sit out of football this fall.
 

One extra post here for no good reason, other than to piss in the cereal of the posters who have this fake thing of being pissed off when someone makes a bunch of posts in a row.

:ROFLMAO:
 


Hopefully he isn't able to win any of his appeals or whatever. Will help get the message across to other players that gambling will be taken seriously and can seriously impact their future in the game.

In a time when there are seemingly so few rules it is good that at least one of them seems to be holding in terms of not being allowed to bet on sports as an athlete.
 



Show his this commercial and tell him that being a good athlete doesn’t guarantee him an NFL roster spot

You have your degree after 4 years, right?

Good luck!

 

The thing very, very, very clearly is: if there had been a supplemental draft, then a team would've taken him.

The NFL knew that, and therefore shut it down from the league office on purpose.

That might well be a violation of the CBA. Let's see if anything happens. Problem with that is, why didn't Kessler file that suit even back on Wednesday? Now he didn't even file by Friday. Makes it unlikely, is what I read.

Because they would need an immediate, emergency decision from a judge to issue some kind of decision ... but then the judge can say "if this is such an emergency, why did you take so long to file??"
 

Hot take; the nfl is ridiculous- stallworth killed someone and missed the same amount of time.

There is also a lot we are not privy to in this case, and I would be interested to know the exact details of his betting behavior. In particular, what led the judge to rule the initial injunction (as part of the decision, he indicated that he had a chance to win the case).

Most of what is discussed seems to be his behavior at Indiana while a red shirt (agreed that it bad to bet on your team, but he had no material impact on the games in which he did bet). It also looks like he stopped betting with games involving Indiana two weeks before he saw the field. There also seems to be no indication that he bet on Cincy at all while playing.

ESPN article describing Indiana betting behavior.
 

GooningGopher said:
Hot take; the nfl is ridiculous- stallworth killed someone and missed the same amount of time.

There is also a lot we are not privy to in this case, and I would be interested to know the exact details of his betting behavior. In particular, what led the judge to rule the initial injunction (as part of the decision, he indicated that he had a chance to win the case).

Most of what is discussed seems to be his behavior at Indiana while a red shirt (agreed that it bad to bet on your team, but he had no material impact on the games in which he did bet). It also looks like he stopped betting with games involving Indiana two weeks before he saw the field. There also seems to be no indication that he bet on Cincy at all while playing.

ESPN article describing Indiana betting behavior.
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So is your stance that college and pro athletes should be allowed to bet on games?
 

matt said:
So is your stance that college and pro athletes should be allowed to bet on games?
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No, I said it was bad. This situation in particular seems to be much different compared to other high profile cases (terry rozier for example) given he never bet on games he played in.

I would have guessed that the punishment here would be similar to those faced by the football player in 2024 at UT Austin instead of the complete black balling by the ncaa, nfl and cfl.
 

GooningGopher said:
In particular, what led the judge to rule the initial injunction (as part of the decision, he indicated that he had a chance to win the case).
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I don't think this is the case. The judge said nothing, other than it would cause irreparable harm. Ken Curry offered no explanation for his reasoning nor any reasoning on why Sorsby would win. That's why the ruling was only 3 pages long.

GooningGopher said:
Most of what is discussed seems to be his behavior at Indiana while a red shirt (agreed that it bad to bet on your team, but he had no material impact on the games in which he did bet).
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Well he still might have been running the scout team in practice during the week. That can certainly have an impact on the team. For example, if he's does a great job emulating the upcoming QB they will face, he helped them with their upcoming performance.
 

GopherTheJugular said:
I don't think this is the case. The judge said nothing, other than it would cause irreparable harm. Ken Curry offered no explanation for his reasoning nor any reasoning on why Sorsby would win. That's why the ruling was only 3 pages long.



Well he still might have been running the scout team in practice during the week. That can certainly have an impact on the team. For example, if he's does a great job emulating the upcoming QB they will face, he helped them with their upcoming performance.
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he also was known to have bet on player props. Obviously if you have the gameplan, that is an advantage.

Still don't have any idea why anyone feels bad for him. he knew the rules. and people adding that the NFL is hypocritical, no shit. they're a sports organization. they're going to come down hardest on things that could impact the integrity of the game and everything else is virtue signaling. they don't give a shit deep down if you knocked up (or out) multiple women. They don't care if you smoked crack while playing (as long as it's not openly in public). They do care if you make fans feel the game is rigged or you fuck with their partners in gambling (if you don't think the NFL is in bed with gambling, I don't know what to tell you) who want to make sure there's not advantage on one side resulting in the house losing a greater margin.
 

upnorthkid said:
he also was known to have bet on player props. Obviously if you have the gameplan, that is an advantage.

Still don't have any idea why anyone feels bad for him. he knew the rules. and people adding that the NFL is hypocritical, no shit. they're a sports organization. they're going to come down hardest on things that could impact the integrity of the game and everything else is virtue signaling. they don't give a shit deep down if you knocked up (or out) multiple women. They don't care if you smoked crack while playing (as long as it's not openly in public). They do care if you make fans feel the game is rigged or you fuck with their partners in gambling (if you don't think the NFL is in bed with gambling, I don't know what to tell you) who want to make sure there's not advantage on one side resulting in the house losing a greater margin.
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Agree 100%. It's basically insider trading. It's not 100% because as in the parlance of the great philosopher Mike Tyson "Everyone has a plan until they get hit" and if a team gets way up or way down, initial gameplans often go out the window. But if the plan says "We are going to feed Player A or Player B." Sorsby would have known that while the general public would have had to guess.

Sorsby would have also known about players who were banged up but not injured to the extent it would make it into the press.
 





I don't think they should
matt said:
So is your stance that college and pro athletes should be allowed to bet on games?
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Be able to bet on the sport in the league they are playing and there should be severer consequences for betting on games that they could potentially play a part in the outcome, but I have no problem with dudes in college betting on pro leagues. If Sorsby wants to bet on NBA or NHL or the world cup than by all means
 

GooningGopher said:
Hot take; the nfl is ridiculous- stallworth killed someone and missed the same amount of time.

There is also a lot we are not privy to in this case, and I would be interested to know the exact details of his betting behavior. In particular, what led the judge to rule the initial injunction (as part of the decision, he indicated that he had a chance to win the case).

Most of what is discussed seems to be his behavior at Indiana while a red shirt (agreed that it bad to bet on your team, but he had no material impact on the games in which he did bet). It also looks like he stopped betting with games involving Indiana two weeks before he saw the field. There also seems to be no indication that he bet on Cincy at all while playing.

ESPN article describing Indiana betting behavior.
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He would have inside information on who was going to play for his team, what the gameplan was and so on. Whether he plays or not is not important, if he knows the star WR will or wont play in a big game and bets on it he is still benefitting from being part of the team.

Sorry but there is no grey area here...
 

The Deliberate Stranger said:
I don't think they should
Be able to bet on the sport in the league they are playing and there should be severer consequences for betting on games that they could potentially play a part in the outcome, but I have no problem with dudes in college betting on pro leagues. If Sorsby wants to bet on NBA or NHL or the world cup than by all means
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So they can end up broke like Malik Beasley and then rigging things so they can try and pay off their debt?
 

Dave H said:
So they can end up broke like Malik Beasley and then rigging things so they can try and pay off their debt?
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Happens to non athletes all the time, like alcoholism, gambling can be an addiction and legal if you're of legal age. It's not the bookie fault if you problem, just like it's not the liquor store or the bar's problem as well
 

Dave H said:
He would have inside information on who was going to play for his team, what the gameplan was and so on. Whether he plays or not is not important, if he knows the star WR will or wont play in a big game and bets on it he is still benefitting from being part of the team.

Sorry but there is no grey area here...
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There clearly is a grey area. If this was a points shaving scandal he would be in handcuffs, but it’s similar to insider trading so he is probably planning a pivot to politics.

From my interpretation (and the NCAA’s), Sorsby’s betting was not an integrity risk to the game [as far as influencing the outcome of games related to betting].
 

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