Shama: Contract Extension for P.J. Fleck Reportedly in the Works

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I'm not sure why they don't just put automatic 1 year extensions in his contract. Many coaches have that. Unless U rules/state law prohibits it for some reason.
 

mngg11 said:
What about periodically rewarding someone who continues to be modestly successful at a resource deficient program in a conference full of resource heavy programs? Fleck isn't a conference title contender but we've consistently punched above our weight class, even if it isn't to the extent that some here want to see. His teams buy in and perform on the field, they're achieving in the classroom, and they do a ton of community volunteer work. I'm cool with it. It's like a cost of living adjustment where the comparative wages are other coaches within the conference. If a caveat is that some if it has to be spent on improving the coordinator salary pool, even better.
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I agree. I like what Fleck is doing with recruiting, the portal and maintaining a majority of the high impact players in the program. I see quality depth with the 2026 team. Probably more than we have ever had across the roster. In this new world of college football, the next step with the program is to be able to compete better with the top tier teams and catch Iowa. But we need the proper financial backing from the University. I think most will agree with that. Tough schedule. I have us beating Iowa in 2026. I have us at 8-4 or 9-3 depending on the improvement and development in the trenches. On paper, it looks much better but it still needs to transfer to the field. Big things coming for the Gophers! Fleck is our guy. Just my opinion.
 



Gopherchase said:
OK Heather it’s good that you chimed in.

Lol otherwise on PJ extension talk coming off a mostly painful to watch season and another shitty bowl game.
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Ok Jim Wacker.

Who slightly outperforms what he has to work.with, better than par?
 




boozer said:
PJ should take more heat for consistently negotiating his salary to be above the standard of his assistants compared to the rest of the league. It’s pretty clear PJ does not value assistants bc they aren’t priority when extension time comes around.
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His salary was like 12th in the conference as of last year. Can’t hardly justify paying him much less. It’s not his fault the assistants aren’t getting paid properly.
 

btowngopher said:
His salary was like 12th in the conference as of last year. Can’t hardly justify paying him much less. It’s not his fault the assistants aren’t getting paid properly.
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I had thought the available salary pool for assistants was underused, the numbers published, could have paid the last d coordinator Hetherman more at hire -- although that maybe implies more money available wouldn't have kept him with a raise.
 



Kitzmann57 said:
Would you rather be like Bucky and hire the wrong guy, and set the program back 5-7 years? Or continue with current consistance? Not a tough choice for me.
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Sorry to be a word Nazi but "consistance" is not a word. There is the word "consistence" but that refers to the physical qualities of a substance (for example, the consistence of pancake batter). The word you are looking for is "consistency."

Agree 100% with your view though. I've perused Iowa fan boards frquently in the past and read many rancorous comments about Ferentz and the former AD who kept giving him long and lucrative contracts. But, that AD recognized that Ferentz was a model of consistency and he preferred to continue that state rather than risk the program falling into the same condition that Nebraska and Wisconsin fell into.

Fleck has achieved a favorable level of consistency here too. Now, if he could only beat Ferentz a little more often.
 

TwistingMyMelon said:
Sorry to be a word Nazi but "consistance" is not a word. There is the word "consistence" but that refers to the physical qualities of a substance (for example, the consistence of pancake batter). The word you are looking for is "consistency."

Agree 100% with your view though. I've perused Iowa fan boards frquently in the past and read many rancorous comments about Ferentz and the former AD who kept giving him long and lucrative contracts. But, that AD recognized that Ferentz was a model of consistency and he preferred to continue that state rather than risk the program falling into the same condition that Nebraska and Wisconsin fell into.

Fleck has achieved a favorable level of consistency here too. Now, if he could only beat Ferentz a little more often.
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There are a lot of words and terms used here that are not real words or terms:

-"loose" as in "I hope the Gophers don't loose."
-"towards" isn't a word. Even worse, "twords". Pronounce the "o". Toward.
-"for all intensive purposes" ugh
-"I could care less" yes, you could
-"anyways" again, isn't a word
-"would of" it is "would have"
-"should of" it is "should have"
- and, of course, "Iowa," "Wisconsin," and "Nebraska". Unusable.
 

highwayman said:
There are a lot of words and terms used here that are not real words or terms:

-"loose" as in "I hope the Gophers don't loose."
-"towards" isn't a word. Even worse, "twords". Pronounce the "o". Toward.
-"for all intensive purposes" ugh
-"I could care less" yes, you could
-"anyways" again, isn't a word
-"would of" it is "would have"
-"should of" it is "should have"
- and, of course, "Iowa," "Wisconsin," and "Nebraska". Unusable.
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...and the "mother" of all.sports terms:

Fartlek

Should be "brother."
 







btowngopher said:
And that’s Fleck’s fault? It’s been this way my whole life.
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He’s had the job for a decade and has had multiple extension negotiations including some where he’s had leverage after good seasons and/or with at least rumors of other job interest. Not to mention that the B1G shared revenue has progressively increased. He has personally had multiple raises. To say he has had no ability to negotiate higher assistant salaries shows more about his negotiating abilities or priorities. How can it be that he can negotiate a raise and extension for himself like every other year but can’t negotiate competitive assistant salaries which are much less than his own?
 

Gophers football has UNDERSPENT AVAILABLE assistants pool. Money is not being used.

There are unused funds.

I don't know why the funds are not being used. I am not complaining. I am just saying, don't ask for more assistants money because they're not spending what they have.

Former d coordinator Heatherman was given less than the available amount.

I don't know who is responsible for that. Just because funds are available in a pool doesn't mean someone has authorized the use. I don't know the second part to this.
 

Some guy said:
I honestly don’t think this as necessary as it used to be.

You used to need a coach to have 4 years left on his deal for more assurance he would be there.

NFL coaching contracts aren’t 6+ years.



I’m sure it’s just a 1-2 year extension with little buyout change but I don’t think it’s necessary anymore in this new era

I suppose the market can make it necessary but
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This. These long term contracts just aren't necessary in the era of the portal. Any coaches getting these long terms are either at schools that don't understand the new landscape, or are at a school that are letting the coach take advantage of them. Per the new hires this year, 5 year terms appears to be the common length.

New B1G coaches in 2026:
Pat Fitzgerald: 5 years/$30MM
Kyle Whittingham: 5 years/$41MM
Matt Campbell: 8 years/$78.5MM
Bob Chesney: 5 years/$33.75MM
 

highwayman said:
There are a lot of words and terms used here that are not real words or terms:

-"loose" as in "I hope the Gophers don't loose."
-"towards" isn't a word. Even worse, "twords". Pronounce the "o". Toward.
-"for all intensive purposes" ugh
-"I could care less" yes, you could
-"anyways" again, isn't a word
-"would of" it is "would have"
-"should of" it is "should have"
- and, of course, "Iowa," "Wisconsin," and "Nebraska". Unusable.
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LOL - towards is 100% a real, actual word.
 



Catechol said:
He’s had the job for a decade and has had multiple extension negotiations including some where he’s had leverage after good seasons and/or with at least rumors of other job interest. Not to mention that the B1G shared revenue has progressively increased. He has personally had multiple raises. To say he has had no ability to negotiate higher assistant salaries shows more about his negotiating abilities or priorities. How can it be that he can negotiate a raise and extension for himself like every other year but can’t negotiate competitive assistant salaries which are much less than his own?
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Says a lot more about the AD as it shouldn’t be like killing teeth if they wanted a great football program. What’s it matter if the pool matches Fleck at 12th vs 16th or whatever it is, it’s not close to elite either way.
 
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I'll go to the mat against anyone who claims this is a bad idea. PJ has raised and maintained the floor of this program, and has built a culture where kids clearly buy in. I don't think y'all understand how hard it is to make young kids buy into your program from start to finish. Also, apart from some NIL chalk-ups like Koi and Bucky, it's clear that kids like being here and playing here, and often leave due to PJ bringing in better talent.

If we had big donors for NIL, and were paying top dollar for the top assistants, and PJ was failing or even flat-lining, then, yeah, we'd have a problem. Considering what he's working with, he's the best option we have right now. Unless you want to go through another rebuilding process. I don't.
 

GophEnEspaña said:
I'll go to the mat against anyone who claims this is a bad idea. PJ has raised and maintained the floor of this program, and has built a culture where kids clearly buy in. I don't think y'all understand how hard it is to make young kids buy into your program from start to finish. Also, apart from some NIL chalk-ups like Koi and Bucky, it's clear that kids like being here and playing here, and often leave due to PJ bringing in better talent.

If we had big donors for NIL, and were paying top dollar for the top assistants, and PJ was failing or even flat-lining, then, yeah, we'd have a problem. Considering what he's working with, he's the best option we have right now. Unless you want to go through another rebuilding process. I don't.
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PJ didn’t have to re build the cupboard was far from bare. He had no QB that obviously hurt but the foundation for ‘19 was here when he arrived. He deserves credit for keeping them all here, most notably AW Junior, but there was no rebuild.
 

Gopherchase said:
PJ didn’t have to re build the cupboard was far from bare. He had no QB that obviously hurt but the foundation for ‘19 was here when he arrived. He deserves credit for keeping them all here, most notably AW Junior, but there was no rebuild.
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2019 doesn't happen without PJ recruits and guys he brought in as transfers. Yes, that core local MN group that stuck around gets the headlines and rightfully so but you're leaving out huge parts of that story.
 

Gopherchase said:
PJ didn’t have to re build the cupboard was far from bare. He had no QB that obviously hurt but the foundation for ‘19 was here when he arrived. He deserves credit for keeping them all here, most notably AW Junior, but there was no rebuild.
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Fleck didn’t just hang on to AW Jr., he had to recruit his ass off to get the Winfield's in the boat… Dude literally flew to Texas and convinced both the parents and the player to return to a program they’d basically already walked away from.
 

GophEnEspaña said:
2019 doesn't happen without PJ recruits and guys he brought in as transfers. Yes, that core local MN group that stuck around gets the headlines and rightfully so but you're leaving out huge parts of that story.
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I think PJ did a great job keeping those kids on board. I was just objecting to the rebuild comments we haven’t gone through one since Jer. I wouldn’t expect if PJ left we would have to go through one, either.
 

Gopherchase said:
PJ didn’t have to re build the cupboard was far from bare. He had no QB that obviously hurt but the foundation for ‘19 was here when he arrived. He deserves credit for keeping them all here, most notably AW Junior, but there was no rebuild.
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It wasn’t a rebuild since it was never really built in the first place. Program was fairly stable (scandal caused turmoil aside) at one level, and Fleck elevated that level, at least for the 2019 season.
 

howeda7 said:
Who said that? I've seen coaches have clauses that automatically extend by a year if still employed by X date.
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That is fine, but most need to be updated to the market annually as it changes. Language like he much be at least the 10th highest paid, etc, etc.
 

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