Michigan State is working to hire Cardinals DL coach Winston DeLattiboudere to the same role.

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LesBolstad said:
Not convinced assistant coaches make much of a difference.

Akin to a $1,000,000/year accountant vs. a $150,000 one. You'd likely get the same result if they both did your books.
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This is true as long as you're on the up and up.
 

A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
I liked Gibbs as he seemed happy to go crazy and roll the dice / stack the box and dare folks to throw.

Granted he had Tyrone Carter back there to clean up after that kinda play. Very much roll of the dice defensive system. If TC isn't back there I think things would have been very different.
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He also had two great passing rushing DL in Riley and Schlecht. Blitzing is less effective if you're less worried about leaving guys 1-on-1.

Oddly enough, I thought one of our problems this year is that we occasionally were too exotic in our blitzing. The Rutgers game was maddening with the number of times we got caught on a draw on 3rd and 8+.
 

LesBolstad said:
Not convinced assistant coaches make much of a difference.

Akin to a $1,000,000/year accountant vs. a $150,000 one. You'd likely get the same result if they both did your books.
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But the $1,000,000.00 accountant most likely has a nicer pen for you to sign your documents with.;)
 

MaxyJR1 said:
$$$ is still bigger at MSU. For me it's

1. Money
2. Fleck wasn't interested.

I don't know if I'm excited about either of those scenarios.
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2 is related to 1. PJ wasn't interested because he knows we can't be competitive with our offer
 

In today's college football, a high dollar DL coach might be worth it if they are also a great recruiter or take on some other important role. A $1M DL specialist seems like a waste of dollars.
 


GophEnEspaña said:
2 is related to 1. PJ wasn't interested because he knows we can't be competitive with our offer
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Not if he really liked with the DE coach brought to the table in producing and he's already decided to make him the DL coach.
 

Winston has been a rising rock star since he first started coaching. Great recruiter.
It was a blow to lose him, it'd be great to get him back.
It'd be a GD shame to see him go to another B1G school.
 

GophersInIowa said:
Your position coach makes a big difference IMO. Not just football knowledge but building close relationships. Usually a player spends more time with their position coach than any other coach.
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I agree with this. Player development and recruiting are most important.
I'm saying all things being equal, the game day play calls- what blitz, scheme etc aren't much if any different from the $2,000,000 coord vs the 600k one
 

LesBolstad said:
I agree with this. Player development and recruiting are most important.
I'm saying all things being equal, the game day play calls- what blitz, scheme etc aren't much if any different from the $2,000,000 coord vs the 600k one
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I wonder how much recruiting skill is needed now that money does so much of the talking.
 



LesBolstad said:
I agree with this. Player development and recruiting are most important.
I'm saying all things being equal, the game day play calls- what blitz, scheme etc aren't much if any different from the $2,000,000 coord vs the 600k one
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Except the amount of experience the $2MM coordinator has vs. the internship program PJ is running for the top position this year.

At some point more money is just more money, but when the pay gap is that large, there is usually an experience gap that goes along with it.

But hey, in three years time, Danny will be ready to be a D coordinator in the B1G, so 2029 - we're comin'. That won't hurt us at all.

Where PJ's chart when you need it?
 

btowngopher said:
I wonder how much recruiting skill is needed now that money does so much of the talking.
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Still have to determine fit and project how a guy is going to develop. That part of recruiting hasn't changed and there is a definite skill involved in being right on players in order to avoid as many wasted scholarships as possible.
 

MNVCGUY said:
Still have to determine fit and project how a guy is going to develop. That part of recruiting hasn't changed and there is a definite skill involved in being right on players in order to avoid as many wasted scholarships as possible.
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There is still convincing parents of fit. There is still convincing of potential fit to get them to the next level. Recruiting still has to balance school and football.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
There is still convincing parents of fit. There is still convincing of potential fit to get them to the next level. Recruiting still has to balance school and football.
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Feels like some posters view recruiting like putting together a fantasy roster and just assume players will go to the highest bidder.

And while that might be true in some cases, Fleck is unlikely to be recruiting a lot of guys who are just interested in $$$.

Revenue sharing, NIL, Pay for Play.....have all added more layers of complexity to recruiting but a big part of it is still identifying talent and establishing relationships with recruits and families.
 





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