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50PoundHead said:
USC slumbers out of the gate, but once they get it in gear their athleticism can take over. They teeter on the edge and risk getting too far behind but that team has to rank among the top in the country in raw quicks.
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Feels like a team that if somehow they make the playoff they get just smoked by one of the upper tier teams.
 

Pompous Elitist said:
Still using Grok. Total garbage.

His contract guarantees 85% of remaining compensation which will be somewhere north of $30M depending on if they pull the trigger this year or next.
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Chat GPT. It depends on the 50% reduction scenario. Regardless, Smith has been hot garbage which is just fine with me.

Key Contract Terms​

  • Smith signed a 7-year, $52.85 million deal running through January 2031. SI+2Football Scoop+2
  • If MSU terminates “without cause,” they owe him 85% of the remaining salary. Sportscasting | Pure Sports+2SI+2
  • The payments are made as liquidated damages in equal monthly installments over the remaining term. Yahoo Sports+1
  • A recent analysis estimates that if he were fired now (2025), the buyout would be about $33 million. Sportscasting | Pure Sports+1
  • More specifically, some reporting shows 62 monthly payments of ~$509,000 from December 2025 through January 2031. Yahoo Sports

Adjustments / Clauses to Note​

  • There’s a clause that reduces his buyout by 50% under certain conditions — specifically, because Athletic Director Alan Haller is no longer with MSU, that clause is triggered. Yahoo Sports+1
  • So, due to that clause, the practical buyout MSU would pay could be substantially less than the “full” 85%-of-salary figure.


Estimated Buyout If Fired at End of This Season​

  • Base estimate: ~$33 million if terminated without cause now. Sportscasting | Pure Sports+1
  • With Haller clause in effect: That could drop to roughly $16–17 million, assuming a 50% reduction. (Rough arithmetic based on reported $33 M times 0.5.)
 

Iowas wins were against abysmal teams - just like MN. Crazy the Gophs lost in the fashion they did and insanely damning. Gophs in a real bad place seeing the state of Iowas program.
 

SamSquatch said:
Iowas wins were against abysmal teams - just like MN. Crazy the Gophs lost in the fashion they did and insanely damning. Gophs in a real bad place seeing the state of Iowas program.
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Iowa probably should’ve beaten Oregon last week. Certainly a limited team, but I don’t think they’re bad this year
 


upnorthkid said:
Iowa probably should’ve beaten Oregon last week. Certainly a limited team, but I don’t think they’re bad this year
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But they didn’t. They played them close - something MN should also be capable of. And overall they are just not an intimidating team when you watch them play. Their offense is too poor for that.
 


SamSquatch said:
But they didn’t. They played them close - something MN should also be capable of. And overall they are just not an intimidating team when you watch them play. Their offense is too poor for that.
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I think the Gophers were intimidated by Iowa!
 

We scored half of the 6 first quarter points Ohio State has allowed all season. Unfortunately we didn’t score anything else over the final 55 minutes of that game.
 




Texas getting wiped out on the road at Georgia 28-10 with a couple possessions left. There really are only a small handful of teams in the top tier.
 

howeda7 said:
Minnesota may never win the B1G, but our fans will always be #1 in fatalism and pessimism.
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I am usually pretty optimistic. But cmon... we just got housed by 30, again, against a quality opponent. We have squeaked out wins against lower half of Big Ten and I am glad we did. Lost to a very average Cal team. We have one very impressive win vs Nebraska. Sorry if I am not excited enough for you.
 






Panthadad2 said:
Chat GPT. It depends on the 50% reduction scenario. Regardless, Smith has been hot garbage which is just fine with me.

Key Contract Terms​

  • Smith signed a 7-year, $52.85 million deal running through January 2031. SI+2Football Scoop+2
  • If MSU terminates “without cause,” they owe him 85% of the remaining salary. Sportscasting | Pure Sports+2SI+2
  • The payments are made as liquidated damages in equal monthly installments over the remaining term. Yahoo Sports+1
  • A recent analysis estimates that if he were fired now (2025), the buyout would be about $33 million. Sportscasting | Pure Sports+1
  • More specifically, some reporting shows 62 monthly payments of ~$509,000 from December 2025 through January 2031. Yahoo Sports

Adjustments / Clauses to Note​

  • There’s a clause that reduces his buyout by 50% under certain conditions — specifically, because Athletic Director Alan Haller is no longer with MSU, that clause is triggered. Yahoo Sports+1
  • So, due to that clause, the practical buyout MSU would pay could be substantially less than the “full” 85%-of-salary figure.


Estimated Buyout If Fired at End of This Season​

  • Base estimate: ~$33 million if terminated without cause now. Sportscasting | Pure Sports+1
  • With Haller clause in effect: That could drop to roughly $16–17 million, assuming a 50% reduction. (Rough arithmetic based on reported $33 M times 0.5.)
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There are different kinds of buyouts, one protects the coach and the other the school. They are usually separate items with the liquidated damages to the school much, much less - see section 4 of the attached PDF of Smith’s contract. Here you see what Smith pays if he voluntarily leaves for another school and the 50% rule applies to that only. So, if he’s fired this year it’s the $33M. As stated the LLMs are all hot garbage, chatgpy, grok, Gemini. They are not intelligent, they are subpar collators of other content and have no idea of context or meaning whatsoever and make horrendous factual and logical errors. We are probably at the peak of the hype cycle. Anyway… why would an athletic director incentivize his own preemptive firing if the school decided Smith had to go.

The 50% reduction in school liquidated damages if the sitting AD is sent packing is interesting and AFAIK not common. I wonder if Coyle worked that into PJs contract. Not going to look.
 

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