All Things 2025 College Football D2 and D3 Thread

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disco said:
Interesting article this weekend about the struggles UM-Morris is having enrollment-wise.
Wonder if that school will even exist in a few years.
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That existence of UMN Morris never made sense to me. Especially in a market already saturated with good private liberal arts schools and MNSCU schools that can offer similar B.A. programs. I believe it's one of the cheapest schools in the state after financial aid, though.
 

Word said:
About 20-30 years ago, Morris was very highly thought of. It was considered a really good value. The impression I got was that it was an affordable, small, liberal arts college. Kind of like a public version of St. Olaf or Gustavus. It was a great option for those that couldn't afford a private school but still wanted the small college feel.
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That's how I understood it as well. It was highly selective. A couple guys I played with in high school played football there and they were super smart. They were still D2 - NSIC then. Also, dating back to its origins, before it became part of the U, it still admits Native American students for free.

I have a few friends from Morris, and I've spent some time there. It's not a town I'd want to go to college in. It's really small and remote, with all the negatives of being in a really small, rural town. At least Crookston has an ag mission and it's only about 35 minutes from a decent sized city in Grand Forks.

I was surprised how small it is. Under 1000 students now. About the size of one graduating class from Wayzata or Minnetonka.

The only real positive I can think of for Morris is your degree will say "University of Minnesota."
 

disco said:
That's how I understood it as well. It was highly selective. A couple guys I played with in high school played football there and they were super smart. They were still D2 - NSIC then. Also, dating back to its origins, before it became part of the U, it still admits Native American students for free.

I have a few friends from Morris, and I've spent some time there. It's not a town I'd want to go to college in. It's really small and remote, with all the negatives of being in a really small, rural town. At least Crookston has an ag mission and it's only about 35 minutes from a decent sized city in Grand Forks.

I was surprised how small it is. Under 1000 students now. About the size of one graduating class from Wayzata or Minnetonka.

The only real positive I can think of for Morris is your degree will say "University of Minnesota."
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I wasn't previously aware of the history of the campus pre-dating the opening of UMM in 1960. Over 30% of its students are NA, who receive tuition waivers, based on the fact the campus was once home to an Indian boarding school last operated by the federal government. The feds gave the school to the state, who first operated an agricultural high school, with a stipulation that NAs be admitted free of charge (the language in the grant seems at least somewhat controversial). I can't see the regents wanting to incur the certain charges of racism that would be levied if the campus were closed without at least offering the same tuition waiver at other U campuses.
 

swede2 said:
I can't see the regents wanting to incur the certain charges of racism that would be levied if the campus were closed without at least offering the same tuition waiver at other U campuses.
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That thought occurred to me as well. Something would need to be renegotiated in this respect.
But at the same time, the waiver means 30% of the students aren't paying tuition, which isn't a good business model either.

The other thing is that apparently some pentecostal religious group has been buying up massive amounts of farmland in the area and has changed the vibe around the the town, which I imagine isn't going to make it an attractive location for college students.
 

disco said:
Yep. It used to be the flagship of the MnSCU system, but has been long passed by Mankato.
My alma mater, MSU Moorhead has lost about 50% from it's peak, but they've been steadily improving the campus. I was there last month and it's looking really nice now, and they're making improvements to the city as well. I think a big problem there is there are just so many 4 year schools within about an hour radius.
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GO DRAGONS!!!

Nice to see Jack Strand getting some love. Dane Brugler has him ranked as the 17th ranked QB prospect in next year's draft class.
 


At the NJCAA level, North Dakota State College of Science was picked to win the Minnesota College Athletic Conference. Coaches poll:
  1. North Dakota State College of Science
  2. Rochester Community & Tech College
  3. Minnesota West Community & Tech College
  4. Minnesota North College - Mesabi Range
  5. Central Lakes College
  6. M State Community & Tech - Fergus Falls
  7. Minnesota North College - Vermilion
 

Here’s the final scores from the first week of NSIC action. NSIC teams in bold, Minnesota teams in italics.
  • Quincy University (IL) routed Concordia-St. Paul, 38-7
  • Michigan Tech defeated Bemidji State, 37-17
  • Minnesota State-Mankato defeated NW Missouri State, 38-14
  • Minnesota State-Moorhead won a shootout over Northern Michigan, 44-37
  • Nebraska Kearney edged Wayne State, 28-21
  • Minnesota Duluth crushed Winona State, 35-7
  • Sioux Falls took down Black Hills State, 27-21
  • U of Mary defeated Midland University (NE), 28-22
  • Emporia State (KS) blew out Minot State, 27-7
  • Augustana won a close game against Missouri Western, 30-26
Standings with the week in the books Minnesota teams in bold.

NSIC North Division
  • Minnesota Duluth, 1-0 (1-0)
  • Minnesota State-Moorhead, 1-0 (0-0)
  • University of Mary, 1-0 (0-0)
  • Jamestown, 0-0 (0-0)
  • Northern State, 0-0 (0-0)
  • Bemidji State, 0-1 (0-0)
  • Minot State, 0-1 (0-0)
NSIC South Division
  • Augustana, 1-0 (0-0)
  • Minnesota State-Mankato, 1-0 (0-0)
  • Sioux Falls, 1-0 (0-0)
  • SW Minnesota State, 0-0 (0-0)
  • Concordia-St. Paul, 0-1 (0-0)
  • Wayne State, 0-1 (0-0)
  • Winona State, 0-1 (0-1)
The UMAC also put out their preseason Coaches Poll. Greenville and Northwestern tied for first:
No. 1 Greenville (IL)
No. 1 Northwestern
No. 3 Martin Luther
No. 4 Minnesota Morris
No. 5 Crown
No. 6 Westminster (MO)
 

Media poll from D2Football.com after the first week of action. NSIC teams in bold, Minnesota teams in italics.
  1. Ferris State (MI), 1-0
  2. Harding (AR), 0-0
  3. Minnesota State-Mankato, 1-0
  4. Kutztown (PA), 0-0
  5. Grand Valley (MI), 1-0
  6. Colorado State-Pueblo, 1-0
  7. Western Colorado, 1-0
  8. West Florida, 1-0
  9. Slippery Rock (PA), 0-0
  10. Angelo State (TX), 1-0
  11. Ouachita Baptist (AR), 0-0
  12. Pittsburg State (KS), 0-1
  13. Indianapolis, 1-0
  14. Valdosta State (GA), 1-0
  15. Augustana (SD), 1-0
  16. Texas-Permian Basin, 1-0
  17. Central Oklahoma, 0-1
  18. California (PA), 0-0
  19. Virginia Union, 1-0
  20. Lenoir-Rhyne (NC), 0-1
  21. Charleston (WV), 1-0
  22. West Alabama, 1-0
  23. Central Washington, 1-0
  24. Delta State (MS), 1-0
  25. Ashland (OH), 0-0
 

Coaches poll now out as well. NSIC teams bold, MN italics
  1. Ferris State (MI) 1-0
  2. Harding (AR) 0-0
  3. Grand Valley State (MI) 1-0
  4. Slippery Rock (PA) 0-0
  5. Colorado State-Pueblo 1-0
  6. West Florida 1-0
  7. Kutztown (PA) 0-0
  8. Minnesota State-Mankato 1-0
  9. Western Colorado 1-0
  10. Angelo State (TX) 1-0
  11. Valdosta State (GA) 1-0
  12. Charleston (WV) 1-0
  13. Pittsburg State (KS) 0-1
  14. California (PA) 0-0
  15. Ouachita Baptist (AR) 0-0
  16. Virginia Union 1-0
  17. Indianapolis 1-0
  18. Central Washington 1-0
  19. Central Oklahoma 0-1
  20. Augustana (SD) 1-0
  21. Texas-Permian Basin 1-0
  22. Delta State (MS) 1-0
  23. Ashland (OH) 0-0
  24. Lenoir-Rhyne. (NC) 0-1
  25. West Alabama 1-0
Others Receiving Votes: Minnesota-Duluth, Bemidji State (MN), Michigan Tech, Central Missouri, Davenport (MI), Sioux Falls
 



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