Comparing B1G Football Season Ticket Prices: A Comprehensive Overview

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Ten pages of posts later I can tell Gopher fans are fired up about this change. So I figured I would take a look at season ticket prices across the Big Ten for comparison's sake. Some schools way higher, some schools much lower. Take a look:

http://mostdopesports.wordpress.com...eason-ticket-prices-a-comprehensive-overview/

EDIT:
Link now includes a comparative chart, or simply look at the photo attached to this post instead. Thanks for the compliments, GHers - now we can all analyze/grumble based on some facts and figures.

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Thanks a lot for the link, you just proved that the U of M thinks they are at the level of Penn State, Nebraska, Michigan, OSU and the rest of the Big Ten Elite that reside in in non major markets with almost no competition for the sports dollar.

Your link proved that this is a total over-reach and will fail. Seats at Iowa, Michigan St. and Wisconsin that are similar to my seats cost less than what my investment would be in Norwood's current plan.

I hope they an get a refund from that consulting company they paid to come up with this moronic plan because it will be a 100 percent train wreck.

Today, Norwood Teague set back the program three years, and it will take a Rose Bowl type season next year to erase this mess, even if they retract most of next week.
 

Ten pages of posts later I can tell Gopher fans are fired up about this change. So I figured I would take a look at season ticket prices across the Big Ten for comparison's sake. Some schools way higher, some schools much lower. Take a look:

http://mostdopesports.wordpress.com...eason-ticket-prices-a-comprehensive-overview/

Don't attempt to inject any form of rational fact into the rants and tirades some have going on the topic. Hard to interrupt a good tirade, just let them tire themselves out. Most won't listen to reason anyways.

P.S. Seriously though. Thanks for putting this together and adding some levity and factual comparison peer B1G data to the discussion. Most will attempt to straw man argue it to death to fit their own versions of "the truth", but you get my drift.
 

Don't attempt to inject any form of rational facts into the rants and tirades some have going on the topic. They won't listen anyways.

P.S. Seriously though. Thanks for putting this together and adding some levity and factual comparison peer B1G data to the discussion.

If anything, this confirms that the rants are justified.
 



Thanks a lot, you just proved that the U of M thinks they are at the level of Penn State, Michigan, OSU and the rest of the Big Ten Elite that reside in in non major markets with almost no competition for the sports dollar.

Your link proved that his is a total over-reach and will fail. Seats at Iowa and Wisconsin that are similar to my seats will are much less than what my investment would be in Norwood's current plan.

Actually......unless some of those other schools bump their tickets prices as well......it may only be Nebraska with more expensive tickets in a few years.
 

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Thanks a lot for the link, you just proved that the U of M thinks they are at the level of Penn State, Nebraska, Michigan, OSU and the rest of the Big Ten Elite that reside in in non major markets with almost no competition for the sports dollar.

Your link proved that this is a total over-reach and will fail. Seats at Iowa, Michigan St. and Wisconsin that are similar to my seats cost less than what my investment would be in Norwood's current plan.

I hope they get a refund and damages from that consulting company they paid to come up with this moronic plan because it will be a 100 percent train wreck.

Today, Norwood Teague set back the program three years, and it will take a Rose Bowl type season next year to erase this mess, even if they retract most of the plan next week.

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Actually, based on my seats, even Penn State will be lower than us...PENN STATE!!! Good Grief, has Teague lost his mind?
 

We should be comparing our prices to Purdue, Indiana, Northwestern, etc.

We haven't won a B10 title since 1967. We have no business comparing ourselves and our ticket prices Neb, Mich, OSU. Even Iowa, which has been substantially more successful than the Gophers in the past 15 years looks like a bargain compared to the 2017 TCF prices.
 

Any other whopper predictions oak street?

Whopper predictions? The per seat donations shown from the linked site show very few donation levels over $400 at the "elite" schools, and the Norwood plan puts us near the top of the Big Ten in a market dominated by professional teams, no less.

What is your point sudapuafly?

I think every person associated with this decision needs to be fired.
 

Ten pages of posts later I can tell Gopher fans are fired up about this change. So I figured I would take a look at season ticket prices across the Big Ten for comparison's sake. Some schools way higher, some schools much lower. Take a look:

http://mostdopesports.wordpress.com...eason-ticket-prices-a-comprehensive-overview/

Wow, did you even look at the pricing at the other Big Ten elite and mid level programs before you posted this? The Teague plan blows these prices out of the water in a market surrounded by Pro teams no less.

The pricing data in the link refutes the assertions made in your post.

Epic message board fail by Holinsnity!
 



Wow, did you even look at the pricing at the other Big Ten elite and mid level programs before you posted this? The Teague plan blows these prices out of the water in a market surrounded by Pro teams no less.

The pricing data in the link refutes the assertions made in your post.

Epic message board fail by Holinsnity!

Apologies if I missed the sarcasm, but all I said in my post is "some programs way higher, some programs way lower." Is this assertion inaccurate?
 

Apologies if I missed the sarcasm, but all I said in my post is "some programs way higher, some programs way lower." Is this assertion inaccurate?

Not that many people are complaining that prices will be going up. It's the magnitude of the increases. Many people will be seeing nearly double prices in the span of three years. That's ridiculous. And unless significant increases are going to be happening at the other schools.....Nebraska may be the only school with higher ticket prices.
 

Not that many people are complaining that prices will be going up. It's the magnitude of the increases. Many people will be seeing nearly double prices in the span of three years. That's ridiculous. And unless significant increases are going to be happening at the other schools.....Nebraska may be the only school with higher ticket prices.

Gotta make a jump to catch up for all the years they lacked making changes. They finally asked themselves why they were bragging about low prices in the conference, when they continued to fall behind. Those years got me hooked and now it will be hard for me to not get tickets. I will always have at least two tickets. I have to.
 

If they expect us to pay Wisconsin and MSU level prices, they sure as heck better be ready for our fanbase to have Wisconsin and MSU level expectations.
 

If anything, this confirms that the rants are justified.

Agreed. Here is how the math works out using the nine schools cited in the article above for my family to buy seats in a comparative section (with apologies for the crude editing from excel):

Gopher Ticket Price Comparison and Rankings for similar seats

Seat Location: Chairbacks in Section 137.

School BaseTicket Donation Total Variance Avg@7Gm Variance PerGameCost for 4
Nebraska $392.00 $1,000.00 $1,392.00 $797.33 $198.86 $163.29 $795.43
Minnesota $310.00 $500.00 $810.00 $215.33 $115.71 $30.76 $462.86
Michigan $455.00 $350.00 $805.00 $210.33 $115.00 $30.05 $460.00 **
Penn State $355.00 $100.00 $455.00 $(139.67) $65.00 $(19.95) $260.00
Iowa $395.00 $50.00 $445.00 $(149.67) $63.57 $(21.38) $254.29
Wisconsin $315.00 $100.00 $415.00 $(179.67) $59.29 $(25.67) $237.14
MichiganSt $308.00 $100.00 $408.00 $(186.67) $58.29 $(26.67) $233.14
Purdue $273.00 $100.00 $373.00 $(221.67) $53.29 $(31.67) $213.14
N'western $249.00 $- $249.00 $(345.67) $35.57 $(49.38) $142.29
Averages: $339.11 $255.56 $594.67 $84.95 $339.81

**Donation was either $200 or $350, I used the higher donation for comparative purposes.

When you look at the numbers, it will cost my family more to attend a game than anywhere other than Nebraska. We own 4 tickets and have used them for bringing our kids to a couple of games and friends to other games. Normally, we pay for our friends in an effort to grow our tailgate group. Our existing group is a core of 10 (with 12 tickets). 2 tickets will be gone from one couple for sure and we will likely give up 2 of our seats. We have had our tickets since graduation from the University in 1994 and have attended all home games other than 2 (both for stupid weddings in Chicago and NYC) in that time. My wife and I are alumni and donate annually to the Golden Gopher Fund, CLA and belong to UMAA. Our donations to each of those areas will be reduced accordingly. The end result for the University will simply be a rough reallocation of the dollars I provide them from a couple of areas to effectively the Golden Gopher Fund. We are not large contributors by any sense of the word, but we donate just over 4 figure amounts annually with lifetime donations in the low/mid 5 figure range. Our cost effective rises from the current rate of $44/game to $115 per game with the donation. We are fortunate enough to be financially secure to swing this if we wish to, but as long time supporters of the program, it is a bitter pill to swallow and one that will get looked at carefully. It certainly makes a customer feel unappreciated after spending many dollars for the Wacker years, Mase's meltdowns and the Brewster debacle. Business history is full of companies that lost their way after making seemingly smart decisions. Somewhere there was a guy who thought that "New Coke" was a great call. Somewhere there was a guy at Kodak who said that digital cameras would never catch on. Will this be Norwood's "New Coke" moment?

The cons that I see with this are the following:

  • Alienates your most loyal clientele while not having a replacement client base.
  • While generating additional dollars, it will generate fewer bodies in seats, in particular the best seats.
  • Recruiting benefits from dollars for scholarships, but is somewhat offset by a lesser gameday atmosphere when on official visits.
  • Likely more visiting fans in the seats via corporate seats similar to Mariucci.
  • Likely redirects small donors who would otherwise donate to the facilities drive.
  • Pushes some to view Gopher athletics as a value rather than affinity sale (i.e. We want results when we pay that much over the norm)


The pros that I see with this:
  • Shores up ability of Ath Dept to be independently operated without general funds injection or borrowings.
  • Dollars go to the Scholarship Fund to pay cost of attendance for non-revenue sport athletes if required (i.e. the dollars go to student-athletes not administrators).
  • Allows other donations to be directed to the facilities plan rather than splitting between scholarship funding and facility planning.

Overall, I think this plan is ill-conceived and will hurt the University with both the public at large and with their season ticketholders. The rollout was mishandled without question which leads one to believe that there is a certain amount of tone-deafness to the process as a whole. I suspect that The Aspire Group who handles ticket sales and I believe I heard did the study for this plan has done a good job with statistical analysis and comparative study, but made the simple mistake of not understanding the marketplace. They wouldn't be the first to do so without question.
 

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Thanks a lot for the link, you just proved that the U of M thinks they are at the level of Penn State, Nebraska, Michigan, OSU and the rest of the Big Ten Elite that reside in in non major markets with almost no competition for the sports dollar.
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Not sports dollar, ENTERTAINMENT dollar. The Gophers don't just compete for spending against the pro teams in town (and Gopher hoops and hockey) but a whole slew of other entertainment options that don't exist in many of the Big Ten markets. Realistically, with the exception of a large difference in number of students, the most similar market in the Big Ten is that of Northwestern or now maybe Maryland.
 

We should be comparing our prices to Purdue, Indiana, Northwestern, etc.

We haven't won a B10 title since 1967. We have no business comparing ourselves and our ticket prices Neb, Mich, OSU. Even Iowa, which has been substantially more successful than the Gophers in the past 15 years looks like a bargain compared to the 2017 TCF prices.

+1. Whoever green-lighted this at the U should be in extremely hot water.
 

+1. Whoever green-lighted this at the U should be in extremely hot water.

Someone is going to get fired at the U of M for this. Pricing higher than everyone in the B10 with one exception?

Wow, Minnesota is going to punish a loyal, starving fan base with Nebraska or Ohio State level prices to see a team that has won nothing for almost 50 years?

Shocking!


Several people will be fired or I will never give another dime to our University.
 

Ten pages of posts later I can tell Gopher fans are fired up about this change. So I figured I would take a look at season ticket prices across the Big Ten for comparison's sake. Some schools way higher, some schools much lower. Take a look:

http://mostdopesports.wordpress.com...eason-ticket-prices-a-comprehensive-overview/

EDIT:
Link now includes a comparative chart, or simply look at the photo attached to this post instead. Thanks for the compliments, GHers - now we can all analyze/grumble based on some facts and figures.

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Looking at the first chart, I see that there is no correlation between high ticket prices and poor attendance, yet that is what many here appear to be forecasting. Nebraska has high ticket prices and high attendance. Purdue/Northwestern has low ticket prices and low attendance. If there is a correlation, it appears that successful teams charge more, which is exactly what the Minnesota Athletic Dept is instituting now. So it appears that we can expect to have very successful teams in the next few years.
 

WTF, what are you talking about? The U of M never "bragged" about low prices in the conference. What is all this BS that MaxyJR1 is spouting? Minnesota has always had very expensive basketball and hockey tickets, and the football tickets have been in the middle relative to much of the Big Ten.

I'd challenge anyone to go to the lower levels of the Big Ten and find a more expensive ticket than what is found in Minneapolis even on the street. The U is in the 4,5,6,7 range, not at the bottom of the Big Ten in demand and pricing.

This whole discussion is fraudulent.

The MaxyJR1 post is pure crap.
 

Just think of how those Ticket Sales Office students are going to feel once they start making the calls for renewals! That could make for some great tv if it was filmed
 

I've been trying to avoid posting on the ticket price increases to take the time to wrap my head around it. An increase in ticket prices and donations is acceptable.... But, an increase this large just seems insane to me. I know there are a lot of diehards that will pay this but I feel like there are a lot of fans that stuck with this program through a lot of extremely sh!tty years that won't be able to justify this huge increase or may not be able to afford it. I really don't know what the athletic department was thinking on this one... Its such an insane increase in such a short amount of time.
 

Looking at the first chart, I see that there is no correlation between high ticket prices and poor attendance, yet that is what many here appear to be forecasting. Nebraska has high ticket prices and high attendance. Purdue/Northwestern has low ticket prices and low attendance. If there is a correlation, it appears that successful teams charge more, which is exactly what the Minnesota Athletic Dept is instituting now. So it appears that we can expect to have very successful teams in the next few years.

Very funny!

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Yes, the formula for full attendance and high prices is to have a history of success and/or being in an area where there are few other options for sports or entertainment dollars. Neither bode well for this increase.
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Gotta make a jump to catch up for all the years they lacked making changes. They finally asked themselves why they were bragging about low prices in the conference, when they continued to fall behind. Those years got me hooked and now it will be hard for me to not get tickets. I will always have at least two tickets. I have to.

They had low prices and built a 50,000 seat stadium because they couldn't sell the damn tickets in the first place.
 

As a comparison, how has attendance been for hockey games since they put in the seat licenses? I, and all the people I know bailed on their season tickets. The prices just kept going up so much each year and then adding the seat license just put it over the top.

I got a pair of old tickets hanging at my desk from the first round playoff that we never made, the year Kyle O left the team. Those tickets were $18 each, this year "standing room only" tickets are $30!!!!
 

$18 to $30 Whoa! definitely could not afford that change..
 

Does anyone know if Parking Passes are also going to be raised? Currently, donations can be applied to parking passes- so not much of a change for my group. We definitely will be dropping our extra 'bring a friend to the game ticket' though.
 




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