Stoops Channels His Inner Bret Bielema - Calls T.O. and LOSES

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Playing on the road . . . have the game tied . . . have gained all the "mo" in game's final 7 minutes . . . and calls a timeout thereby giving the home team their only real chance to win in regulation . . . which they proceed to DO.

The hubris of those guys is at once staggering and completely believable.

Good on ya' Badgers and Sooners . . . D'OH!!!!!
 

I wouldn't call that a Bielema move....they had a legitimate shot at moving into field goal range, especially with their offense. A Bielema move would have been stopping Baylor on third down and then icing the punter....
 

The similarities between this year's OU/Baylor and MSU/Wisky games are eerily and remarkably numerous. It is really quite stunning - and enjoyably delicious. Couldn't happen to a better couple of guys.

Heck even the 4 involved teams' primary colors are the same. Red/green. Amazing.
 


Nice that fans of a 2-9 team are relegated to making fun of 9-2 teams. It must suck to be you folks, year after year.
 


This is a new one to me - do tell what you've heard. Bielema would be the fattest coke head since Chris Farley.
 

UliKunkel said:
Nice that fans of a 2-9 team are relegated to making fun of 9-2 teams. It must suck to be you folks, year after year.
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You're right. I have sinned. Please absolve me. I think it would only be appropriate at this time, in this year, for my Badger friend to say two Hail Marys for me.
 

UliKunkel said:
Nice that fans of a 2-9 team are relegated to making fun of 9-2 teams. It must suck to be you folks, year after year.
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UliKunkel...In the meantime, please take an aeronautical intercourse at a rotating pastry.l
 

spermophilus said:
Playing on the road . . . have the game tied . . . have gained all the "mo" in game's final 7 minutes . . . and calls a timeout thereby giving the home team their only real chance to win in regulation . . . which they proceed to DO.

The hubris of those guys is at once staggering and completely believable.

Good on ya' Badgers and Sooners . . . D'OH!!!!!
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What makes this even more awesome is watching the ending of the Iowa St. game vs OSU. ISU got the ball with 1:17 remaining, had something go wrong on the first play, then thinks better of it and takes a knee at the end of regulation to send the game to OT. Obviously the coach is happy to be in the position, with a chance to win in OT (especially after the missed FG). They don't tempt the football gods, and look what happens. A stroke of luck with the OSU INT, then ISU scores to win. Simply incredible. You can't make this stuff up.
 



Moving on from the argument about whether or not fans of a team with a worse record are allowed to criticize the moves of a team with a better record...what's the logic behind either of those time outs? The only thing I can think of is that it's a reflex to try to force the other team into doing something they had decided not to. But seriously...I can't think of any logical reason why a team in the waning moments of a tied game would want to stop the clock when they don't have the ball. This is slightly moreso the case with Stoops than bielema (because sparty was in second and very long), but that's just a flat-out mistake, right? What's the argument in favor of that call?

As a side note, right when Stoops called that time out last night my first thought (spoken out loud to my confused girlfriend) was "oh man, he's totally gonna pull a Bielema." I wanted OU to win that game, but I couldn't help but laugh when Baylor hit that TD
 

RedPoo said:
Moving on from the argument about whether or not fans of a team with a worse record are allowed to criticize the moves of a team with a better record...what's the logic behind either of those time outs? The only thing I can think of is that it's a reflex to try to force the other team into doing something they had decided not to. But seriously...I can't think of any logical reason why a team in the waning moments of a tied game would want to stop the clock when they don't have the ball. This is slightly moreso the case with Stoops than bielema (because sparty was in second and very long), but that's just a flat-out mistake, right? What's the argument in favor of that call?

As a side note, right when Stoops called that time out last night my first thought (spoken out loud to my confused girlfriend) was "oh man, he's totally gonna pull a Bielema." I wanted OU to win that game, but I couldn't help but laugh when Baylor hit that TD
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Bielenema said in the post game that he was going to try & block the punt. Apparently ego takes over, as he had no concept of all the other things that could go wrong with that philosopy. In addition to what actually played out, what if you get to the punt situation, they manage to get the punt off, but your own return guy muffs the punt?

My thoughts on the situation are that you just survived a terrible performance in a game you should have won handily. You should feel fortunate to get the game tied, you should be happy you have a chance to win in OT. On top of it, your team now has momentum on your side and have planted the seed of doubt in the opponent. OT should be your best chance to win, rather than the low probability of a blocked punt, with just as good of a chance of something REALLY bad happening causing you to lose in regulation. It's called karma and couldn't happen to a better team.
 

And, on the other side of the coin, Chip Kelly sits on his 3 TOs, plays himself into a last-second field goal attempt, and Oregon loses. There was NO reason for him to sit on those TOs. They were moving the ball easily, and the only way they wouldn't have scored a TD is if they ran out of time... They ran out of time. That's three coaches that have played themselves out of the title game picture due to terrible use of time outs.
 

WHB Brewer said:
Bielenema said in the post game that he was going to try & block the punt. Apparently ego takes over, as he had no concept of all the other things that could go wrong with that philosopy. In addition to what actually played out, what if you get to the punt situation, they manage to get the punt off, but your own return guy muffs the punt?

My thoughts on the situation are that you just survived a terrible performance in a game you should have won handily. You should feel fortunate to get the game tied, you should be happy you have a chance to win in OT. On top of it, your team now has momentum on your side and have planted the seed of doubt in the opponent. OT should be your best chance to win, rather than the low probability of a blocked punt, with just as good of a chance of something REALLY bad happening causing you to lose in regulation. It's called karma and couldn't happen to a better team.
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Oh so true. Reminds me of the kid who was digging through a pile of horse manure when someone happened by and asked "What in the heck are you doing?" The kid responded, "With this big a pile of horsecrap, there has to be a pony in there somewhere."
 



WHB Brewer said:
Bielenema said in the post game that he was going to try & block the punt. Apparently ego takes over, as he had no concept of all the other things that could go wrong with that philosopy...
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Yeah, that's what I had guessed...it's funny how supposedly smart people can get this tunnel vision where they get so caught up on the possibility of a really good potential outcome that they actually expect it to happen, when it would only take a cursory glance at the situation by someone familiar with the game to realize that the odds are overwhelmingly in favor of the team with the ball in those situations (with the potential exception of some extreme examples, i.e. 3rd and very long inside your own 5 yard line).
 

I just had a thought. Perhaps this was taught/dogma at their mutual alma mater?

I'm not sayin' - I'm just sayin' . . .
 

SonOfTheVarsity said:
And, on the other side of the coin, Chip Kelly sits on his 3 TOs, plays himself into a last-second field goal attempt, and Oregon loses. There was NO reason for him to sit on those TOs. They were moving the ball easily, and the only way they wouldn't have scored a TD is if they ran out of time... They ran out of time. That's three coaches that have played themselves out of the title game picture due to terrible use of time outs.
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Kelly's deal vs USC was likely all ego too. He thinks his no huddle press game "quack attack" strategy is so good, he can't let off the gas when the situation dictates it. What is even more ironic is that USC used a time out to stop the action to catch their breath with 0:38 to play and the ball on the 32 yard line. Oregon ran 4 plays, including 2 runs a clock killer incomplete pass and a screen pass. Before they new it, there was 0:07 left and they FINALLY called a timeout. 4 plays and only moved 12yards to the 20 and didn't get a legit shot at the end zone to win it. the rest is history. Way to go Chip!
 

spermophilus said:
I just had a thought. Perhaps this was taught/dogma at their mutual alma mater?

I'm not sayin' - I'm just sayin' . . .
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Though I like the thought, I would think Hayden Fry wouldn't have been as stupid in the same situation.
 

It should be pretty obvious that Bielema is a lousy coach. After all, his cumulative record is only 58-18. (Heaven knows what he could claim it was if he had Tim Brewster's ability to claim games won when he was merely serving as a waterboy on the sidelines.) Obviously not good enough for a university which continues to bask in the reflective glory of stone age national championships.
 

UliKunkel said:
It should be pretty obvious that Bielema is a lousy coach. After all, his cumulative record is only 58-18. (Heaven knows what he could claim it was if he had Tim Brewster's ability to claim games won when he was merely serving as a waterboy on the sidelines.) Obviously not good enough for a university which continues to bask in the reflective glory of stone age national championships.
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Jesus Christ dude, settle down and get a little perspective. If you can't handle a relatively honest discussion of football strategy without making it about how the team you cheer for is better than the team everyone here (on our teams fan forum) cheers for, stop reading the thread.
 

While I loathe the Badgers, their coach and fans as much as anyone, I have a hard time criticizing that football program. They have flogged us for quite awhile now, and it's quite obvious they're doing something right.
 

CP Gopher said:
While I loathe the Badgers, their coach and fans as much as anyone, I have a hard time criticizing that football program. They have flogged us for quite awhile now, and it's quite obvious they're doing something right.
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That's both true, and pretty much entirely irrelevant to the discussion of whether a specific time out call was a mistake. Belichick has made a ton of mistakes in his time, and I'd say he's built probably the best NFL team in the last 20 years. I'm sure Bear Bryant made an occasional bad call too.
 


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