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Has anyone heard if the young men from Iowa have recovered enough to return to team training?
 


I think it is odd that there has not been any updates in recent weeks. Where is the Press?
I can see why the hawks kept it low key prior to NSD, but how about some good PR that the guys are OK???

This continues to look bad...
 

THE Chitown Gopher said:
I think it is odd that there has not been any updates in recent weeks. Where is the Press?
I can see why the hawks kept it low key prior to NSD, but how about some good PR that the guys are OK???

This continues to look bad...
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The press down there will not do anything to jepordize the football program down there. Football is all they have there and it is the cash cow of that university. With all the assaults, rapes, drug arrests and alcohol problems incurred by the iowa players...the press has continued to sweep it under the rug. Hey man...it's all okay.

If this happened here...the media would demand that the Strength and Conditioning Coach be fired immediately for letting this happen.
 

Or maybe there's nothing of note to report at the moment?
 


All of the thirteen players are expected to make a full recover and all have returned to some level of workouts.
 

My brother and sister-in-law from the Quad Cities have admitted that Iowa City is just too close to the Chicago and St. Louis relationships for several drug-running problems. And not just players. I do not live there, but they do.

Go Gophers!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

harley_gopher said:
The press down there will not do anything to jepordize the football program down there. Football is all they have there and it is the cash cow of that university. With all the assaults, rapes, drug arrests and alcohol problems incurred by the iowa players...the press has continued to sweep it under the rug. Hey man...it's all okay.

If this happened here...the media would demand that the Strength and Conditioning Coach be fired immediately for letting this happen.
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Um, have you read anything written by the press down in Iowa? They were all over the school, program, and Ferentz when this happened. Now that Ferentz (finally) spoke to the media things have calmed down. And I'm betting Khaliq is right here. The lack of news is most likely a sign that there is no further news (or at least, none that can be released without the consent of the players).
 

GoAUpher said:
Um, have you read anything written by the press down in Iowa? They were all over the school, program, and Ferentz when this happened. Now that Ferentz (finally) spoke to the media things have calmed down. And I'm betting Khaliq is right here. The lack of news is most likely a sign that there is no further news (or at least, none that can be released without the consent of the players).
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um, pardon me.
 



harley_gopher said:
um, pardon me.
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Sorry, bad tone. I was simply trying to point out that the press down there ripped the team left and right for how the whole thing was handled at first. I have no love for the Hawkeyes, but thought credit was due when it was earned.
 

1gophergnu said:
Has anyone heard if the young men from Iowa have recovered enough to return to team training?
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I realize that this isn't exactly what you are asking, but I think the last of them was released from the hospital a week ago yesterday. I don't know exactly how to provide a link on this site, but I attempt to link to Ferentz's press conference transcript below. Hopefully it works for those that might have an interest. Anyway, Ferentz addresses a lot of topics discussed at length on this board. He addresses your question briefly on the bottom of page 4 and top of page 5, but there isn't a ton of info on that topic.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/iowa/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/CoachFerentz2211.pdf
 

Its amazing Ferentz/Iowa hasn't had to field the question "were these players on performance enhancing drugs and have they been tested for them?" Would love to hear the honest answer to that.
 

As has been the case throughout this situation, the University of Iowa and its representatives CANNOT talk specifically about ANYTHING regarding the medical care of these players. The players are protected by patient privacy laws. It is against the law for the coaches to comment publicly about the players, other than to confirm they've been released from hospital care. Three hospital employees have already been fired for accessing medical files of some of these players.

Think what you want about conspiracies, media pushing stuff under the rug, etc., but the simple answer has been and will likely continue to be that because of HIPAA, we may never officially know much about what happened there.
 



tjgopher said:
As has been the case throughout this situation, the University of Iowa and its representatives CANNOT talk specifically about ANYTHING regarding the medical care of these players. The players are protected by patient privacy laws. It is against the law for the coaches to comment publicly about the players, other than to confirm they've been released from hospital care. Three hospital employees have already been fired for accessing medical files of some of these players.

Think what you want about conspiracies, media pushing stuff under the rug, etc., but the simple answer has been and will likely continue to be that because of HIPAA, we may never officially know much about what happened there.
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They can comment in general about the medical condition of the team members hospitalized, but not specifics without the consent of the patient. My guess is that players or their families will talk about this in some depth at a future point in time.
 

TAW said:
They can comment in general about the medical condition of the team members hospitalized, but not specifics without the consent of the patient. My guess is that players or their families will talk about this in some depth at a future point in time.
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Correct. Family members may well talk about it. At this point, coaches of the University of Iowa and others associated with the program cannot.
 

Coaches cannot speak about any specific medical information regarding the cases. Coach Ferentz did spend about 30 minutes at the signing day press conference talking about the players (in general and not naming players, said all doing well and all expecting full recoveres) about the workout (done three times before, never had any issues and 80 some players did it last month with no issues) and about the media (some not letting facts get in the way of a story).
One additional point...3 Univ employees have been fired and two other suspended for violating HIPAA regulations directly related to this case.
PS...no positives for drugs or PEDs, all tested.
 

Eli said:
Coaches cannot speak about any specific medical information regarding the cases. Coach Ferentz did spend about 30 minutes at the signing day press conference talking about the players (in general and not naming players, said all doing well and all expecting full recoveres) about the workout (done three times before, never had any issues and 80 some players did it last month with no issues) and about the media (some not letting facts get in the way of a story).
One additional point...3 Univ employees have been fired and two other suspended for violating HIPAA regulations directly related to this case.
PS...no positives for drugs or PEDs, all tested.
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No, they were not. They were tested (toxicology test) for "illegal street drugs", cocaine, weed, etc. NOT steroids, etc. But they tried to slip one past the public there.
 

Eli said:
Coaches cannot speak about any specific medical information regarding the cases. Coach Ferentz did spend about 30 minutes at the signing day press conference talking about the players (in general and not naming players, said all doing well and all expecting full recoveres) about the workout (done three times before, never had any issues and 80 some players did it last month with no issues) and about the media (some not letting facts get in the way of a story).
One additional point...3 Univ employees have been fired and two other suspended for violating HIPAA regulations directly related to this case.
PS...no positives for drugs or PEDs, all tested.
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Who are you Iowa's SID?

I doubt any of those 13 have returned to workouts.
 

It's not a violation of HIPAA to state their team status, lacking an annoucment that all thirteen are fully participating, you can be sure there are lingering effects.
 

The president of the University of Iowa has called for a thorough investigation of this matter to be completed within sixty days. That investigation will involve many individuals outside the athletic department.

This incident has given Iowa football--and, by extension, the University--another black eye. It may be, in fact, the biggest black eye yet. President Mason, the local media and the national media are not going to stand for a white wash of this serious matter.

At a minimum, Iowa needs to find out what happened to make sure it does not occur again. The depth of the investigation's findings will also be important to other strength training programs. NO ONE in college football wants to have this experience repeated at their school.
 

I know no one should jump to conclusions on what happened here. Saying it was steroids or anything else is foolish at this point since we don't know the details. But it still amazes me how pretty much everyone from the fans and media have given the coaching staff the benefit of the doubt here. Just so different than if this were to happen at Minnesota. It's kinda just disappeared down here.

When this story first came out, most Iowa fans I talked to got annoyed or even a little upset if I brought up that the coaching staff may be responsible in any way. Just shows to me where the two programs are. Many Minnesota fans will be pretty negative when something wrong happens. Down here many will defend the program no matter what happens.
 

LonelyIowaGopher said:
The president of the University of Iowa has called for a thorough investigation of this matter to be completed within sixty days. That investigation will involve many individuals outside the athletic department.

This incident has given Iowa football--and, by extension, the University--another black eye. It may be, in fact, the biggest black eye yet. President Mason, the local media and the national media are not going to stand for a white wash of this serious matter.

At a minimum, Iowa needs to find out what happened to make sure it does not occur again. The depth of the investigation's findings will also be important to other strength training programs. NO ONE in college football wants to have this experience repeated at their school.
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Here is my best guess at the newsconference to come at the end of this 90 day "investigation":

"After our lengthy investigation we have determined these young kids worked out too hard, we will not put these kids through such strenuous workouts in the future. Move along now, nothing else to see here....."
 

1gophergnu said:
Has anyone heard if the young men from Iowa have recovered enough to return to team training?
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I don't know their current training status but all are currently back attending classes and according to a coach speaking at the Polk County I Club all 13 will be participating in Spring practice.
 

I'm guessing these guys were taking some of those ridiculous herbal supplements. Not illegal, but unregulated and can be dangerous. I remember when former Timberwolf Tom Guggliota collapsed in his hotel room on a road trip and then admitted he'd been taking some of that crap.

Glad to hear they have recovered. Scary situation.
 

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