STrib: Gophers men’s hockey embracing ‘Burn the Boats’ mindset heading into postseason

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Per Randy:

Leo Gruba, a sophomore defenseman for the Gophers men’s hockey team, was asked ahead of the final regular-season series against Michigan State what he and his teammates planned to do to honor Minnesota’s five seniors.

“We’re gonna win a national championship — with them. That’s our plan,” Gruba said. “That’ll be a good way to celebrate.”

Gruba made that declaration with a straight face. In a season that went off the rails early, the Gophers have only one plan in mind: Win three single-elimination games to capture the Big Ten tournament title, which is their only path to the NCAA tourney, and then run the table against the NCAA field. That starts at 6 p.m. Wednesday, March 11, when the sixth-seeded Gophers visit No. 3 seed Penn State in a single-elimination Big Ten tournament quarterfinal.

“This is our motto here, going down the stretch, ‘Burn the Boats,’ ” Gruba said, channeling his inner Hernán Cortés and displaying a T-shirt featuring the motto. “That’s our plan. We’re not looking back, and it’s an exciting time of the year to play hockey.”


Go Gophers!!
 

Per Randy:

Leo Gruba, a sophomore defenseman for the Gophers men’s hockey team, was asked ahead of the final regular-season series against Michigan State what he and his teammates planned to do to honor Minnesota’s five seniors.

“We’re gonna win a national championship — with them. That’s our plan,” Gruba said. “That’ll be a good way to celebrate.”

Gruba made that declaration with a straight face. In a season that went off the rails early, the Gophers have only one plan in mind: Win three single-elimination games to capture the Big Ten tournament title, which is their only path to the NCAA tourney, and then run the table against the NCAA field. That starts at 6 p.m. Wednesday, March 11, when the sixth-seeded Gophers visit No. 3 seed Penn State in a single-elimination Big Ten tournament quarterfinal.

“This is our motto here, going down the stretch, ‘Burn the Boats,’ ” Gruba said, channeling his inner Hernán Cortés and displaying a T-shirt featuring the motto. “That’s our plan. We’re not looking back, and it’s an exciting time of the year to play hockey.”


Go Gophers!!
Well, I admire the optimism. I'm also optimistic that the Wild are going to call me this week, wanting to add me to the roster. Odds of that are about the same as this team winning a national title. I would love to be wrong on both counts.
 

I like it better than the “Embrace the Suck” mantra of the Ben Johnson basketball teams. While that may have been a fantastic principal for the Navy Seals, optically that is not something you share with a sports fan base!
 

Like a used car salesman. No reason to say something like that.

Say, "We're gonna play our asses off every game."
 

Who knows. Gophers played a tough season. Could come together with a nice winning streak and peak at the right time. If I remember correctly, something like this happened years ago.

I'll root for them. Why not?
 


Who knows. Gophers played a tough season. Could come together with a nice winning streak and peak at the right time. If I remember correctly, something like this happened years ago.

I'll root for them. Why not?
Please tell me when an 11-21-3 team did something of note.
 



And they got absolutely pounded
Your post proved my point Mr. Negative. I've noticed that you are not very well received on this board as it's quite obvious that you have a potty attitude. Go back to you mom's basement.
 



People may not like his overall attitude, but Bonin has been right about this program for the last year. Only in the last couple months did the majority start accepting it.
 

People may not like his overall attitude, but Bonin has been right about this program for the last year. Only in the last couple months did the majority start accepting it.
Yeah congratulations to him, Mrs. Bonin. He is a self-proclaimed college hockey genius. And yes, he predicted doom and gloom for the season, based solely on roster make-up. He also predicted great things for BU and BC, based solely on roster makeup. He has been wrong about that as neither of those teams landed in the top 15. He basically said that Barr was the greatest coach of all time, and Maine has sucked this year. He did not think Michigan would be nearly as good as they are.
Bonin acts like everyone on this board was predicting a national title except him. Nobody on this site was predicting a great season by the U of MN. I admittedly didn't think we'd be as bad as we were as I thought we'd at least be .500. I was wrong about that, even though I was saying it was time for coaching change here as well. The bottom line is that it does not take a rocket scientist to be negative all the time, and then say... "see I was right" when it turns out to be correct.
 

People may not like his overall attitude, but Bonin has been right about this program for the last year. Only in the last couple months did the majority start accepting it.
bonin also said the team was mediocre in 23-24 and 25-26 and ripped Snuggy for his final year for over half the year. The number of takes that are almost exclusively negative is the problem, not that he thought this year's team was likely to be poor.
Add to it gushing about Michigan and BU for multiple years, that the CHL was going to run over college hockey with ease, and that we were dumb to add LDP instead of Reidler (who remarkably was worse than LDP as well as his PSU teammate in every single metric despite that he gets to play in front of a markedly better team than LDP) and it gets tiring to many people.
It's absolutely fine to say the team needs new blood and Leo Gruba looks like an idiot (and was one of the major problems), but it loses objectivity when literally nothing the Gophers can do is acceptable because you're so bent out of shape we haven't won a Natty.

We all know bonin will be the guy out climbing light posts when they win because he loves the team. We all also know bonin will not be one saying the team can do it outside of having the US national team playing for the Gophers because he views the key to winning as purely mediated by 1st round picks and Michigan, MSU, PSU, and BU/BC will buy those in larger numbers than we will for the foreseeable future unless the GHC really takes off.

Not every take needs to be negative. The team as it sits for next year is not going to be competitive/good either. I am hoping we see some guys come off the recruiting board and encouraging we just took a commit from Humphreys who will come in older but is NTDP pedigree. I'm expecting there will be attrition this year and if there's not, then next year is going to be largely the same and Bob will absolutely not have a job (if he still has one after this year)
 

That's fair and those are all valid points that I agree with. I guess I'm just to the point where I mostly no longer have that much interest in this program, which is sad considering I've been a fan for about 30 years and was fully engaged as recently as a couple seasons ago. It's just hard seeing the program regress the way it has the last season and a half, hopefully some changes are made that will push the trajectory in a more positive direction.
 



That's fair and those are all valid points that I agree with. I guess I'm just to the point where I mostly no longer have that much interest in this program, which is sad considering I've been a fan for about 30 years and was fully engaged as recently as a couple seasons ago. It's just hard seeing the program regress the way it has the last season and a half, hopefully some changes are made that will push the trajectory in a more positive direction.
if you've been in on the last 30 years and stayed through the late Lucia era, why would you back out of the punishment now? 😅

I agree on the struggle of this year. I have a hard time saying its been a major drop off vs a data point blip given they've made the postseason 5 straight years before this, have 2 FFs, 3 RS titles and 1 CT title particularly how the year ended against UMass getting absolutely effed by the officiating crew (literally embarrassing when you're so bad you're pulled for the remainder of the games and they bring in a different crew) as a 1 and done is so fickle (as we saw for that loaded BC team, Michigan also losing to QU, and for MSU the last 2 years as well).

It is part of why this cannot be a trend as we've seen what happens to Mariucci when it strings together. Bob may have already blown his good will with full fanbase, but I don't think we're at those doldrums yet and he is the guy who brought them back from the death that was the end of the Lucia tenure. But if he's not willing to blow up the roster, he needs to go as the fanbase will not watch another losing year (especially not when the wild look this good and the HS hockey is as good as its been in a long time right now)
 

Well I never said I've been diehard for 30 years, those late teen years were a bit of a rough patch lol. I'm in the same camp as Trix on the other board, even if Motzko was able to turn this roster around in the next year or two, I just am not confident that he is the right coach do be able to squeeze max results out of that group. We saw what happened with the '23 team, and I'm at the point where I'm ready to see someone else get their shot.
 

if you've been in on the last 30 years and stayed through the late Lucia era, why would you back out of the punishment now? 😅

I agree on the struggle of this year. I have a hard time saying its been a major drop off vs a data point blip given they've made the postseason 5 straight years before this, have 2 FFs, 3 RS titles and 1 CT title particularly how the year ended against UMass getting absolutely effed by the officiating crew (literally embarrassing when you're so bad you're pulled for the remainder of the games and they bring in a different crew) as a 1 and done is so fickle (as we saw for that loaded BC team, Michigan also losing to QU, and for MSU the last 2 years as well).

It is part of why this cannot be a trend as we've seen what happens to Mariucci when it strings together. Bob may have already blown his good will with full fanbase, but I don't think we're at those doldrums yet and he is the guy who brought them back from the death that was the end of the Lucia tenure. But if he's not willing to blow up the roster, he needs to go as the fanbase will not watch another losing year (especially not when the wild look this good and the HS hockey is as good as its been in a long time right now)
If I could like this 100 times, I would. Spot on.
 

But if he's not willing to blow up the roster, he needs to go as the fanbase will not watch another losing year (especially not when the wild look this good and the HS hockey is as good as its been in a long time right now)
I agree, but I am curious what you think needs to be done to satisfactorily blow up the roster. What does that look like?
 

Well I never said I've been diehard for 30 years, those late teen years were a bit of a rough patch lol. I'm in the same camp as Trix on the other board, even if Motzko was able to turn this roster around in the next year or two, I just am not confident that he is the right coach do be able to squeeze max results out of that group. We saw what happened with the '23 team, and I'm at the point where I'm ready to see someone else get their shot.
are any of us ever in any coach haha? Nightingale has flamed out in every postseason, Michigan is just as long as us from winning a title, Brown at BC has had the "greatest team on ice" twice and lost, BU may not even make the postseason with the most draft picks ever on a team. Carle and maybe Fersch seem like some of the only guys that do (and neither is coming here). Rabs has never made a postseason and Barr has never won an NCAA tournament game (just using the 2 most commonly cited ones).

We all care about FF banners here, rightfully so. But it also is a one-and-done in hockey, which we just saw the worst team in our lifetimes take games from #1, 2, 3, 6, 10, and 12 this year (to give you an idea of how fucking hard it is to win a single game even when you are better than the other team).

He's been here 8 years and, I agree, it's hard to be confident after what we just watched. I'm fine if we move on, but he also has taken and built a team and made it better than the sum of its parts as well. I try to evaluate full season's as if you're only looking at NCAA results, we should fire almost every coach not named Carle

Was going to write something pretty long, but I can see either side of moving on or keeping him. Lot of that depends on what he's going to do to approach the offseason (and is partially why I really wish we had an AD more plugged in on hockey)
 

I agree, but I am curious what you think needs to be done to satisfactorily blow up the roster. What does that look like?
this depends on if you want my ideal or what I think would be reasonable.
 

this depends on if you want my ideal or what I think would be reasonable.
Based on what you feel realistically could and should be done between now and next season. You said he needs to blow up the roster or he needs to go. What changes do you feel he needs to make for you to say he should stay?
 

Based on what you feel realistically could and should be done between now and next season. You said he needs to blow up the roster or he needs to go. What changes do you feel he needs to make for you to say he should stay?
stop viewing roster management like you need anyone on the roster who is not a D1 caliber player. Players transfer constantly now. That means how you manage the pipeline now is going to full of the possibility you can also take players from other schools (you're a big ten school and a historic blue blood, act like it)

So given that, I'm really over the experiment of not carrying a full roster, especially when you are taking guys who are never meant to play at this level. I get it if one of Rud, Begley, or Harris is on the roster, but I would say you cut/encourage to transfer all 3 of them. That coupled with Thomas, Mitts, Lamb, and Mitts all leaving means you already have 8 spots to fill, which needs to be looked at aggressively for a mix of Freshmen and upper class talent, because you can't rely on 18-19 year old guys to come in and push this team over the top (like he did this year counting on Clark, Pahlsson, and Gruba to take steps like Ziemer and Lamb did to help the freshman)
He took step one proactively already and targeted a high producing guy who can come in and play right away next year in Humphreys. That, to me, shows he realizes this roster needs help on both ends (I disagree with people who said the F group we had coming in plus the returners was fine; you cannot have 1 line that produces and lines 2-4 look like black holes that in total score maybe once a game). This also encourages your upper tier talent to stay. Ziemer is a stud but you can't tell him and Mooney they're going to be all we have again and Moore and Moe will help when they can.
In the back, on top of cutting the above 2 guys (you cannot just have them be scratches due to the roster limits being tight with guys going to the WJC and health now), you need to tell McLaughlin he's a scratch at best. Phillips is not ready so don't rush him. Grimes can come play 3rd pair and Harper is one you don't push if his camp wants him to dev in the Dub (he's a 1st round talent; great to have him but you don't want to kill him as he's young and that's a heavy ask to come in as a 17-18 year old). That means you need to be hyper aggressive in the portal. Tons of MN kids with ties here on other teams so to me, there needs to be 2 portal guys that are juniors/seniors to balance classes.

Ideal world: you also are looking at telling some of the upperclass forwards they are going to be bottom 6 players with how they've performed (Pahlsson, Clark, Ludkte who sadly just doesn't seem to be able to skate after his injuries or whatever caused it). I think that may lead to some of them looking elsewhere, which means you do the same thing with the F group looking for upperclassmen and blue chip (see CHL; you have a role on a 1st line with Mooney-Ziemer? That sounds like a fucking awesome spot to sell to a blue chip guy to come in and score). Ditto on the defensemen as . There are multiple 1st round caliber CHL guys who will get drafted this year. You need to be all over that and flop the list of guys in the last 5 years who are currently playing in the NHL. Want to be a shutdown guy? We made Faber. Want to sign the largest contract in Ducks history? We made Lacombe. Knies, Cooley, Snuggy, Rinzel, Moore, Wood all played here and are cashing NHL checks after coming in as NHL draft picks (and you mention Wood because he's Canadian). Get in the pool and play with the big kids Bob. No more sidelines on the CHL.
In my ideal world, you're pushing that envelope like you just saw Michigan and MSU do where they're having incoming classes that are way overcommitted (UND is doing this as well). Pipeline management lives in the 1-2 year time span
Last part of ideal world, fire (I mean let retire to a consulting role) Miller and hire someone younger who will recruit and will fundraise or someone who will GM and will fundraise. You can't have two old guys who like things the way they were and the PK has ass.

tl,dr; cut the guys who are D3 players (Rud, Harris, Begley) and ACTUALLY FILL THE ROSTER with both some freshmen blue chip guys and some older talent to class balance. we have some of those guys up front already locked in. He needs ample help on the back end

Last random part: if you're going to try play with older heavier guys like he claimed he was going to, you need to actually forecheck and fucking hit someone. Coaching malpractice this year the number of times I watched upperclassmen cruise on by and not finish a check. Freshmen learn that from the older guys. Absolutely unacceptable unless you're playing track style hockey and you're one of the scorers. Knies would've smacked the shit out of a number of these guys if he were around and they were doing that playing the roles they were given.
 

stop viewing roster management like you need anyone on the roster who is not a D1 caliber player. Players transfer constantly now. That means how you manage the pipeline now is going to full of the possibility you can also take players from other schools (you're a big ten school and a historic blue blood, act like it)
Appreciate the response and I would say I agree with what I think are the broader points you make and changes that I think Bob must make to say he deserved another year.

#1 100% needs to fill the roster with D1 level talent, EVERY roster spot, if he can’t even do that its time for him to go for that reason alone. #2 Demonstrate the willingness AND ability to recruit and sign top talent out of the CHL, it’s a must going forward. #3 use the portal like the free agency tool it is. If there is a kid that would make the team better and wants to play here, figure out a way to let him know you will make room on the roster and pick him up out of the portal. Active player poaching, It happens, get on board.

In short he needs to demonstrate he is willing to change with the times to ensure we have a top tier roster every year. If not we are just waisting another year.
 
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Appreciate the response and I would say I agree with what I think are the broader points you make and changes that I think Bob must make to say he deserved another year.

#1 100% needs to fill the roster with D1 level talent, EVERY roster spot...

In short he needs to demonstrate he is willing to change with the times to ensure we have a top tier roster every year. If not we are just waisting another year.
I'll watch my weight during the winter as not to gain any more weight regardless of how the Gophers do. Your other comments are good though!
 




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