All Things 2025 Minnesota Vikings In-Season Thread

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LakevilleBro said:
If Max plays really well on Sunday, think how awkward that will be for KOC.

KOC told everyone that JJM was ready, and he went all in on JJM. Remember KOC would not put in Max, for a very injured Carson Wentz weeks ago.
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Cuz him and Kwesi are pump and dumpers. But markers got called in and it’s falling apart.
 






Max is slow of foot, 6 feet tall and throws a ball the height of a college lineman’s neck. Should be interesting.
 




golf said:
Rest of season I will be disappointed if Vikings win.
Will be hoping for close losses, with team and especially McCarthy play well but coming up a bit short.
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I'm with you for the most part. The schedule is not friendly, so this may not be hard. And some defenses the rest of the way that they should be able to move the ball against.
 

Spaulding!No! said:
Max is slow of foot, 6 feet tall and throws a ball the height of a college lineman’s neck. Should be interesting.
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See below, from today’s Athletic’s article featuring a strong quote from Eric Galko, the director of football operations for the East-West Shrine Bowl and a longtime evaluator.

“I’ll stand by it,” Galko said in August. “I’ll be really surprised if Max does not start games in the NFL early. It’s not as crazy as it sounds. Max is going to run the offense at a high level. He’s not going to miss throws he shouldn’t miss. He’s going to trust the offense.”

www.nytimes.com

Who is Max Brosmer? Why the Vikings’ possible starter vs. Seahawks has felt inevitable

The Vikings were impressed this summer with the play of the undrafted rookie out of Minnesota. Now, he could get his first NFL start.
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Who's going to win the NFC North?

I was just taking a look at remaining schedules and basically all of the remaining contenders (anyone not named the Vikings) have very difficult schedules remaining. The Packers play the Bears twice, and I would say the Packers have to sweep the Bears to win the division most likely.

I think 3 teams from the NFC West make the playoffs so it's pretty likely the only NFC North team making the playoffs is the division winner. I have a very healthy betting position on the Bears NOT making the playoffs and I'm not going to lie, I'm starting to sweat that at least a LITTLE bit. I still don't think they make it, they just aren't very good, but a few upsets along the way and it could absolutely happen.

OH. And I think my small bet on JJM being Comeback POY is just not going to cash, as crazy as that sounds. Damnit.
 

Hey, I hope Max does well but for those of us who attended games we saw a 280 lb lineman catch max in a foot race.
 






TRF Guy said:
I’m not writing him off quite yet but it’s a big hole to climb out of
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Even if his passing stats improve his availability to play in the regular season is not even eclipsing a ratio that would make Royce Lewis or Byron Buxton envious.

Almost as many reported injuries (4) as TD passes thrown, at least 2 have required he miss a season or games, and this concussion is likely a 3rd.
 

Ogie Ogilthorpe said:
Who's going to win the NFC North?
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Detroit. Like you, I'm not buying into CHI yet although they're farther along at this point than expected. Love's continued regression for GB and the Vikings assault on futility records at QB have me feeling pretty confident about the Lions.
Ogie Ogilthorpe said:
I was just taking a look at remaining schedules and basically all of the remaining contenders (anyone not named the Vikings) have very difficult schedules remaining. The Packers play the Bears twice, and I would say the Packers have to sweep the Bears to win the division most likely.
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I would guess that GB and CHI split those games at Home which further opens the door for DET.
Ogie Ogilthorpe said:
I think 3 teams from the NFC West make the playoffs so it's pretty likely the only NFC North team making the playoffs is the division winner.
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How many teams would you put ahead of the LAR as favorites to win the SB? For me, it's none. Good defense, good offense and good coaching. SEA is cruising, too, but I just don't have faith in Darnold even in a different uniform.
Ogie Ogilthorpe said:
I have a very healthy betting position on the Bears NOT making the playoffs and I'm not going to lie, I'm starting to sweat that at least a LITTLE bit. I still don't think they make it, they just aren't very good, but a few upsets along the way and it could absolutely happen.
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They are still the Bears, but it's looking shaky at best for your wager right now and Ben Johnson appears to be the real deal thus far. You nailed it up above...if GB takes both games against CHI, that would be huge for your bet considering that other teams like SF and DAL are playing better.
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OH. And I think my small bet on JJM being Comeback POY is just not going to cash, as crazy as that sounds. Damnit.
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They call it "fishing", not "catching". I think it was a decent wager especially after listening to KOC in the offseason trying to convince all of us that Joe Montana's got nothing on JJM.
 

Slim Tubby said:
Detroit. Like you, I'm not buying into CHI yet although they're farther along at this point than expected. Love's continued regression for GB and the Vikings assault on futility records at QB have me feeling pretty confident about the Lions.

I would guess that GB and CHI split those games at Home which further opens the door for DET.

They call it "fishing", not "catching". I think it was a decent wager especially after listening to KOC in the offseason trying to convince all of us that Joe Montana's got nothing on JJM.
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I just have no clue on Detroit. I faded them big time in the futures betting (a bet on Under 10.5 Wins, and a bet on Under 9.5 Wins) due to the OL and coaching losses, and they come out hot as hell. Lately, they don't look nearly as strong. Who the hell knows what this real Detroit team is?

Green Bay doesn't impress me either, but I think they can take care of Chicago. The Bears have played the 31st most difficult schedule so far this year, and some seriously terrible QBs.

I also sprinkled a little on Trevor Lawrence for Comeback POY; good grief, I'm really leaning towards there being no hope for that guy, despite all the talent. Leads the NFL in turnovers if I'm not mistaken. Should have lost to the Cardinals Sunday. I laid some action on the Jags to finish in the top 2 in the AFC South, still feeling good about that, but Lawrence looks like he's never going to be a top QB in the league.

Fun fact: Cardinals became the first team in NFL history to LOSE a game where they were +4 in Turnover margin. What the f*ck....

It may not be 2026, but I think there's a decent shot Nick Rallis will get a HC gig in the NFL. The Cardinals defense has a lot of really good young pieces. Probably too late this year to make some ripples but the Cardinals defense next season could vault Rallis into HC consideration; as long as the offense gets at least a little better.
 

Ogie Ogilthorpe said:
I just have no clue on Detroit. I faded them big time in the futures betting (a bet on Under 10.5 Wins, and a bet on Under 9.5 Wins) due to the OL and coaching losses, and they come out hot as hell. Lately, they don't look nearly as strong. Who the hell knows what this real Detroit team is?

Green Bay doesn't impress me either, but I think they can take care of Chicago. The Bears have played the 31st most difficult schedule so far this year, and some seriously terrible QBs.

I also sprinkled a little on Trevor Lawrence for Comeback POY; good grief, I'm really leaning towards there being no hope for that guy, despite all the talent. Leads the NFL in turnovers if I'm not mistaken. Should have lost to the Cardinals Sunday. I laid some action on the Jags to finish in the top 2 in the AFC South, still feeling good about that, but Lawrence looks like he's never going to be a top QB in the league.

Fun fact: Cardinals became the first team in NFL history to LOSE a game where they were +4 in Turnover margin. What the f*ck....

It may not be 2026, but I think there's a decent shot Nick Rallis will get a HC gig in the NFL. The Cardinals defense has a lot of really good young pieces. Probably too late this year to make some ripples but the Cardinals defense next season could vault Rallis into HC consideration; as long as the offense gets at least a little better.
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PJ Fleck isn't going anywhere, and most would consider it a step back, but Rallis would be my top semi-realistic choice to take over the Gopher program.
 


Gopher_In_NYC said:
Yeah, when I was posting today I was thinking about your axiom of liking players who have a lot of games under their belt.
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I think it matters. A lot. There is ZERO chance that Kirk Cousins makes over $300M in the NFL if he doesn't start at Michigan State for 3.5 years. There are other examples, lots of them.

 

Ogie Ogilthorpe said:
I think it matters.
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I never said it didn’t, did I?

If you carefully read my post, you’ll see the tone is an implication of agreement.
Ogie Ogilthorpe said:
A lot. There is ZERO chance that Kirk Cousins makes over $300M in the NFL if he doesn't start at Michigan State for 3.5 years. There are other examples, lots of them.

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TRF Guy said:
I’m not writing him off quite yet but it’s a big hole to climb out of
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Honest to god, playing quarterback in the NFL is simply something that not a lot of people can do well, no matter where they went to college or how well they did at that level or where they were slotted in mock drafts.

Who remembers Steve Dils? In his senior year at Stanford, he won the Sammy Baugh Trophy for being the nation's top collegiate passer. The Vikes took him in the fourth round, and he backed up Tommy Kramer until he was traded in 1984. As good as he was in college, he couldn't hold a candle to Kramer. It was like night and day with those two. In 1983, the Vikings looked pretty good early, and Kramer was playing great...until suffering a season-ending injury in Tampa, and Dils started after that. He couldn't do a thing. The offense was totally crap and got shut out by the Lions late in the season with a potential playoff berth on the line. Of course, it didn't help that Ted Brown also missed time with an injury, but I watched all those games, and Dils sucked hard. Grant finally relented once the season was lost and started Wade Wilson in the last game, which they won. In the final analysis, Wade Wilson--the NAIA product--was ten times the pro quarterback that the award-winning PAC 10 product Steve Dils was.

It's a good question how early can you judge a young player, especially someone playing the most demanding position. But the whole idea that you automatically have to give someone a lot of time because of how high you drafted him and that he won a college national championship ignores the reality that some guys just don't have it.
 

ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler reports the Vikings could pursue QB Daniel Jones in free agency this offseason.

"The Vikings let Jones walk in free agency last offseason, along with Sam Darnold. With the J.J. McCarthy experiment all but dead after his historically awful play in 2025, Fowler said the Vikings could sign a veteran to compete for the starting QB job in 2026. “The funny thing about that scenario is Jones would be an ideal fit in Minnesota, where he backed up Sam Darnold last season.

As the top free agent quarterback, he will score a sizable deal in Indianapolis or elsewhere,” Fowler said. “Still, the Vikings really liked Jones, and their situation this offseason will be far different than the one from a year ago.

Making a play for Jones would give him multiple options to consider.” Though Jones has struggled of late, his play is much improved from his final seasons in New York. He could have several free agency suitors barring a disastrous finish to the regular season."
 

The Athletic’s Dianna Russini reports Vikings QB J.J. McCarthy (concussion) is not expected to play in Week 13 against the Seahawks.

"After another catastrophic outing in Week 12 against the Packers, McCarthy was placed in the league’s concussion protocol. Rookie QB Max Brosmer is slated to start for Minnesota against a tough Seattle defense. It’s hard to imagine Brosmer playing any worse than McCarthy has over the past few weeks. Look for the Vikings to remain a run-heavy offense in Week 13 and beyond. Brosmer should be rostered in superflex formats."
 

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