2025-26 College Football Coach Fired/Hired Thread

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swede2 said:
TT seams to gave NIL $ and institutional support.
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They do, but it hasn’t shown up in recruiting quite yet. I’m sure that will change in time if things continue this way.
 

GopherGrit said:
Disagree.

Subtracted Texas and OU and added the "four corners" schools from the old Pac-12

And when you compare to what the conference was in 2022: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Kansas_State_Wildcats_football_team

The Big 12 has added a lot of teams that aren't at the top-end the same as Texas and OU but are in that mid-high range like K-State, so there are more opportunities for losses.
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How’s it not easier to beat 9 mediocre teams vs 7 mediocres and 2 greats?
 

ergopher said:
There's also much more competition. In Minnesota PJ has been able to lock down the borders and keep almost all of the best talent in every season. That's a great foundation to recruit off of that smaller fish in more talent-filled states like California, Florida and Texas don't get.
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Minnesota is one of the worst locations for recruiting of any p4 school. Yes there’s less competition, but there’s like 100 times more viable prospects in California.
 



btowngopher said:
How’s it not easier to beat 9 mediocre teams vs 7 mediocres and 2 greats?
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Again I disagree with your characterization.

Every conference has lower teams each year. In 2022 the Big 12 only had 10 teams and was the last major conf to still play a full round robin. Last year they were up to 16 teams (still 9 conf games). The 8 added teams, mostly were programs that are at the level of K-State.

So I think it will be tougher for Klieman to have a 2022 like season in the current configuration.
 

btowngopher said:
I wonder why they have no money? They seem to do well in other sports. If they could take advantage of the Cali recruiting they’d be a force.
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Every P4 school, or nearly every one, I would guess is spending the full or close to the full $20.5M of in-house NIL payments (my term).

Not all of that goes to football of course, but would guess $10-15M at most schools.

And I'm guessing they're going to pay staff the going rate for a mid-tier Big Ten school.

So they have money.


Guessing he was talking about 3rd-party NIL, which is going to start being quite limited due to the clearinghouse anyway, which I personally think is a great thing
 





Certainly seemed like it was time to move on after last year and the start to this one. I'm sure it's bittersweet, and he will likely be honored and celebrated a couple years from now.

He's the winningest coach they've had and has a solid resume. All things considered, in a conference with Blue Bloods Texas, Oklahoma and Nebraska, plus the rise of teams like TCU, Baylor, as well as solid programs like K-State and Texas A&M, I'd think he's a success.
  • 1 Big 12 Title
  • 3 Division Titles/Big 12 Title Game Berths
  • 8 seasons with 10+ wins
  • 2 seasons with 12 wins
  • 18 winning seasons
  • 18 Bowl Berths
  • 5 BCS/NY6 Bowl Berths
  • 12 Bowl Wins
  • 2 BCS/NY6 Bowl Wins
  • 11 Top 25 Ranked Finishes
  • 3 Top 10 Ranked Finishes
 

IceBoxGopher said:
Certainly seemed like it was time to move on after last year and the start to this one. I'm sure it's bittersweet, and he will likely be honored and celebrated a couple years from now.

He's the winningest coach they've had and has a solid resume. All things considered, in a conference with Blue Bloods Texas, Oklahoma and Nebraska, plus the rise of teams like TCU, Baylor, as well as solid programs like K-State and Texas A&M, I'd think he's a success.
  • 1 Big 12 Title
  • 3 Division Titles/Big 12 Title Game Berths
  • 8 seasons with 10+ wins
  • 2 seasons with 12 wins
  • 18 winning seasons
  • 18 Bowl Berths
  • 5 BCS/NY6 Bowl Berths
  • 12 Bowl Wins
  • 2 BCS/NY6 Bowl Wins
  • 11 Top 25 Ranked Finishes
  • 3 Top 10 Ranked Finishes
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Not only is he the winningest coach in their history, he has over 100 more wins than the guy in second place. Pretty impressive run for a coach at a school that isn't even the best program in his own state.
 

GopherGrit said:
Every P4 school, or nearly every one, I would guess is spending the full or close to the full $20.5M of in-house NIL payments (my term).

Not all of that goes to football of course, but would guess $10-15M at most schools.

And I'm guessing they're going to pay staff the going rate for a mid-tier Big Ten school.

So they have money.


Guessing he was talking about 3rd-party NIL, which is going to start being quite limited due to the clearinghouse anyway, which I personally think is a great thing
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The athletic dept. at UCLA is something like $100 million in debt, and isn't some of their B1G money getting funneled to Cal as part of some agreement? As mentioned, their facilities are really poor (they don't have a 100 yard practice field.). They're second fiddle in their own market to USC. They play an hour or more from campus with LA traffic. And I would guess a significant amount of money goes to their hoops program.
 

GopherGrit said:
Guessing he was talking about 3rd-party NIL, which is going to start being quite limited due to the clearinghouse anyway, which I personally think is a great thing
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Riiiiight. It'll just go back to bag men being the norm. :ROFLMAO:
 



GopherGrit said:
Again I disagree with your characterization.

Every conference has lower teams each year. In 2022 the Big 12 only had 10 teams and was the last major conf to still play a full round robin. Last year they were up to 16 teams (still 9 conf games). The 8 added teams, mostly were programs that are at the level of K-State.

So I think it will be tougher for Klieman to have a 2022 like season in the current configuration.
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Yet Iowa State is doing much better?
 

IceBoxGopher said:
Certainly seemed like it was time to move on after last year and the start to this one. I'm sure it's bittersweet, and he will likely be honored and celebrated a couple years from now.

He's the winningest coach they've had and has a solid resume. All things considered, in a conference with Blue Bloods Texas, Oklahoma and Nebraska, plus the rise of teams like TCU, Baylor, as well as solid programs like K-State and Texas A&M, I'd think he's a success.
  • 1 Big 12 Title
  • 3 Division Titles/Big 12 Title Game Berths
  • 8 seasons with 10+ wins
  • 2 seasons with 12 wins
  • 18 winning seasons
  • 18 Bowl Berths
  • 5 BCS/NY6 Bowl Berths
  • 12 Bowl Wins
  • 2 BCS/NY6 Bowl Wins
  • 11 Top 25 Ranked Finishes
  • 3 Top 10 Ranked Finishes
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Shocking how it fell apart so fast.
 

disco said:
The athletic dept. at UCLA is something like $100 million in debt, and isn't some of their B1G money getting funneled to Cal as part of some agreement? As mentioned, their facilities are really poor (they don't have a 100 yard practice field.). They're second fiddle in their own market to USC. They play an hour or more from campus with LA traffic. And I would guess a significant amount of money goes to their hoops program.
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You are right that there is some kind of thing where they have to give part of their Big Ten money to Cal. I forgot about that

Honestly wonder if we had taken Cal instead of UCLA (I know this was never on the table, don't get me wrong) if the powers that be would've forced the same arrangement on them to UCLA's benefit?
 

disco said:
Riiiiight. It'll just go back to bag men being the norm. :ROFLMAO:
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I am not detecting much disagreement or reasoning why, in this post?

You think 3rd party NIL levels won't fall off a single dollar after this season? Why then did Texas rush to sign a bunch of deals before the NIL Clearinghouse went into effect?
 

btowngopher said:
Yet Iowa State is doing much better?
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They finished 7-2 in conference in 2024, just like the other three ranked teams in the conf last year.

It was a good season. Those can happen if you find a way to win the more close games due to having more teams at your level in the conference, now and then.
 






PeoplesFront said:
Realistically speaking, this is not great news. Wasn’t it Pittman and his staff that passed on Drake?
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Next Ark coach falling on his hands and knees and offering $$$ should strike fear in our hearts.

May loyalty (to the Gophers) win out
 

Considering what he did at Wisconsin and how Illinois is now, it's surprising Bielema couldn't get something going at Arkansas. I get that the SEC was stacked at that time, but still, his teams never seemed to their footing.

That Arkansas program for about 20 years now has been just kind of average. They had that great two-year run with Ryan Mallett slinging the ball in 2010 and 2011. Other than that their best years have ranged from 8 to 9 wins.
 



IceBoxGopher said:
Considering what he did at Wisconsin and how Illinois is now, it's surprising Bielema couldn't get something going at Arkansas. I get that the SEC was stacked at that time, but still, his teams never seemed to their footing.

That Arkansas program for about 20 years now has been just kind of average. They had that great two-year run with Ryan Mallett slinging the ball in 2010 and 2011. Other than that their best years have ranged from 8 to 9 wins.
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How wild was 2011 for Arkansas:

- went 11-2 overall
- beat every team on their schedule, including a neutral site former rivalry game against top-15 Texas A&M at the Cowboys stadium
- except they lost two division games: at Alabama and at LSU, neither were competitive by final score
- so they finished 3rd in their division

- won the Cotton Bowl
- finished #5 ranked in the nation overall

- and oh yeah, the National Championship game that year: Alabama beats LSU
 

GopherGrit said:
Next Ark coach falling on his hands and knees and offering $$$ should strike fear in our hearts.

May loyalty (to the Gophers) win out
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So the $$$ will trump being disrespected over and over? Not likely.
 

GopherGrit said:
You are right that there is some kind of thing where they have to give part of their Big Ten money to Cal. I forgot about that

Honestly wonder if we had taken Cal instead of UCLA (I know this was never on the table, don't get me wrong) if the powers that be would've forced the same arrangement on them to UCLA's benefit?
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It's California, so, no.

The UC system is all one (same as the U's situation), but bigger, and muktiple D1 schools involved. The division of funding from the state is far more complex than in Minnesota (not for any real reason). The decision was centered on the negative impact on Cal's revenue from the dissolution of the PAC-12 (as I understood it) and then the disparity in revenue Cal gets from the ACC vs UCLA's cut from the B1G.

The goal is to make it equal for the UC system, having everything to do with politics and not much based on reality. I don't live in California anymore but there is a real competition between Northern and Southern California that plays out in politics and funding, so they're trying to make it "equal" between the two largest schools in the UC system.

To quote Bad Religion's song "Don't Pray on Me; "Now Everybody's Equal, just don't measure it it"
 

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