Week 4 Other Games Thread

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USC is figuring out you have to be able to run the ball to win the B1G. They would have beaten us last year if they had stuck with the run game.
 

mngg11 said:
Illinois looks like they came into this game with the belief that Indiana would be back to earth this season and are suffering mightily for it
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They definitely weren’t ready for what Indiana brought. They looked like they weren’t ready for anything.
 


















I’m more and more convinced PJ feels the need to make the team struggle (and fans suffer) early in the year every season as sort of a three act play, personal growth and organizational psychology exercise. Year zero, etc. Plenty of time to forget about the loss, get better.

Not worried at this time.
 


I know “transitive wins/losses” aren’t really a thing in CFB but our past and future opponents’ performances this weekend have me feeling really bad about our chances this season.

I thought a 6-win projection early on was a little insulting. Now it feels hopeful.
 

kg21 said:
I'd trade our next 4 recruiting classes with Ohio State's and take my chances at winning.
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This is changing your argument.

You said you didn't understand how IU's players are playing so well when they're so relatively low rated by class rankings. (By the way, does that include transfers like Mendoza?)


I'm saying, I'll take players who play like IU's did last night at the "cost" of a #50 class ranking, or whatever it was, any day of the week.


No one was talking about Ohio State.
 

kg21 said:
The gophers obviously wore Cal down last week.
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Wow!

I guess it's human nature. You start buying your own hype and you let off the gas pedal.


All the more amazing how some of these teams go undefeated.

Granted, was Cal dealing with a bunch of players out?
 

If only we had played Cal the week AFTER San Diego State and got to see how their vaunted defense and legendary coaching staff approached the game.
 

kisarazu said:
Yup, I'm a little concerned on the OC and DC. Perhaps it was one of those blips, an away game with inexperience at key positions. I hope it was.
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With Collins being the safeties coach and this being his first time as a DC ... does that color his viewpoint towards wanting DB's to make the play and hence the 3 man rushes?

And/or was the Fleck forcing conservatism on the defense?


I could buy any combination of either of these.
 

GopherGrit said:
With Collins being the safeties coach and this being his first time as a DC ... does that color his viewpoint towards wanting DB's to make the play and hence the 3 man rushes?

And/or was the Fleck forcing conservatism on the defense?


I could buy any combination of either of these.
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Whoever was responsible for that decision, it was obviously stupid at the time, and this weekend underscored that. It is shocking to me that our coaching staff could make such an egregious error in judgment over and over again in the same game while the evidence of its ineffectiveness piled up.
 





Pompous Elitist said:
I’m more and more convinced PJ feels the need to make the team struggle (and fans suffer) early in the year every season as sort of a three act play, personal growth and organizational psychology exercise. Year zero, etc. Plenty of time to forget about the loss, get better.

Not worried at this time.
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I am concerned that the problem is that PJ comes into every year thinking he can play a certain way and that he has to relearn a lesson every year.

And he doesn’t have coordinators who will push back on him anymore.
 

GopherGrit said:
With Collins being the safeties coach and this being his first time as a DC ... does that color his viewpoint towards wanting DB's to make the play and hence the 3 man rushes?

And/or was the Fleck forcing conservatism on the defense?


I could buy any combination of either of these.
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You can’t forget about Perich’s 2 horrid special teams plays and the fact our vaunted offense put up 14 points with a legit QB.
 

bleedsmaroonandgold said:
Whoever was responsible for that decision, it was obviously stupid at the time, and this weekend underscored that. It is shocking to me that our coaching staff could make such an egregious error in judgment over and over again in the same game while the evidence of its ineffectiveness piled up.
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And most of us Gopherholers were yelling it at the tv in real time.
 

Ski-UT-Mah said:
Watching Cal get 20 balled by SDSU (San Diego is clearly not a state) is less than encouraging
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Yeah, I only saw the first half but I love the Aztec's offense, especially the run game. Lots of pulling, traps, counters and fakes. It seemed so old school that it was new school compared to boring modern zone running plays.
 

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