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My gosh, Koi lost this game for us...catching a punt on the 2 yard line, trying to pick up a bouncing ball on the 2 yard line and losing it, trying to make a pass and losing 9 yards. He has 5 tackles and a 19 yard pass reception...but just stop. He clearly doesn't have the situational awareness to do this and this loss is squarely on his shoulders or those who overestimate what these young men can do.
 



Bound to have a bad game, probably started buying into the hype and it caught up. Life finds a way to humble you. I’m good with him doing what’s he’s done because he’s been great up until tonight and he will win us more games than lose. Tough night for the kid.
 


NotAFanOfBecky said:
Bound to have a bad game, probably started buying into the hype and it caught up. Life finds a way to humble you. I’m good with him doing what’s he’s done because he’s been great up until tonight and he will win us more games than lose. Tough night for the kid.
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What did he do against Buffalo or NW State?
 

NotAFanOfBecky said:
Bound to have a bad game, probably started buying into the hype and it caught up. Life finds a way to humble you. I’m good with him doing what’s he’s done because he’s been great up until tonight and he will win us more games than lose. Tough night for the kid.
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Young man was trying to make a play. He flubbed it. It happens. Fleck not giving his young QB a chance to pass and make a play on third & eight trailing by three is a far more egregious mistake.
 

IMO they did this to him. He seems to be putting so much pressure on himself to be a “game breaker” where he’s forcing. Last year it came to him and was timely. Now he’s trying to make it happen. Reminds me a bit of Tyler Nubin his senior year where he just so badly wanted to make a play he put himself out of position multiple times
 





upnorthkid said:
IMO they did this to him. He seems to be putting so much pressure on himself to be a “game breaker” where he’s forcing. Last year it came to him and was timely. Now he’s trying to make it happen. Reminds me a bit of Tyler Nubin his senior year where he just so badly wanted to make a play he put himself out of position multiple times
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I don’t disagree with you, but I do wonder if PJ propping him up all off season and giving him all these opportunities is a way of trying to keep him here. Right or wrong.
 

upnorthkid said:
IMO they did this to him. He seems to be putting so much pressure on himself to be a “game breaker” where he’s forcing. Last year it came to him and was timely. Now he’s trying to make it happen. Reminds me a bit of Tyler Nubin his senior year where he just so badly wanted to make a play he put himself out of position multiple times
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Your first two sentences contradict each other. Is the staff putting too much pressure on him or is he putting too much on himself? Either he is a playmaker with the freedom to make plays or he isn’t. I still think he is a play maker, you want the ball on his hands, doesn’t mean mistakes will never be made.
 

btowngopher said:
Your first two sentences contradict each other. Is the staff putting too much pressure on him or is he putting too much on himself? Either he is a playmaker with the freedom to make plays or he isn’t. I still think he is a play maker, you want the ball on his hands, doesn’t mean mistakes will never be made.
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If I hype you up as the next Travis Hunter, you’re going to try to prove me right. It’s part of the negotiation of coaching. They gave him the freedom and autonomy but he seems to be pressing much more this year to make plays rather than letting them flow to him
 



upnorthkid said:
If I hype you up as the next Travis Hunter, you’re going to try to prove me right. It’s part of the negotiation of coaching. They gave him the freedom and autonomy but he seems to be pressing much more this year to make plays rather than letting them flow to him
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The problem is we kind of need him to be making plays because we don’t have many other options.
 

btowngopher said:
The problem is we kind of need him to be making plays because we don’t have many other options.
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Oh I don’t disagree with you. You’re going to run the risk. I’d rather they hadn’t put him on offense.
It’s a ton of pressure and he is not Travis Hunter where he’s head and shoulders better than our other WRs
 

CoMn said:
My gosh, Koi lost this game for us...catching a punt on the 2 yard line, trying to pick up a bouncing ball on the 2 yard line and losing it, trying to make a pass and losing 9 yards. He has 5 tackles and a 19 yard pass reception...but just stop. He clearly doesn't have the situational awareness to do this and this loss is squarely on his shoulders or those who overestimate what these young men can do.
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I cannot remember the last time a player just single-handedly gave away a game like that. Wow.

Worst part was that it was obvious that he needed to get pulled after the first half and they just kept putting him out there
 

Married@SiebertField said:
Young man was trying to make a play. He flubbed it. It happens. Fleck not giving his young QB a chance to pass and make a play on third & eight trailing by three is a far more egregious mistake.
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It wasn’t just one play. It was taking a massive sack when he should have just thrown the ball away, it was fielding a punt he never should have touched, it was getting caught looking on a red zone play and leaving his guy uncovered, it was muffing a punt that iced the game.

He wasn’t even good at his core position today. Why is he playing three phases?
 
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Agree with those saying that he's trying to do too much.

You can call that buying into your own hype, to some degree, sure. But it's also just a mistake, whatever the motivation.

All you can do, all you should be doing, is playing your role within the prescribed play call. You aren't more important than the team ... don't try to set the world on fire every play. You'll more likely get yourself, and the team, burned
 

LeftofThaDial said:
I don’t disagree with you, but I do wonder if PJ propping him up all off season and giving him all these opportunities is a way of trying to keep him here. Right or wrong.
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I was wondering the same thing too. Maybe Koi and his "agent" said "I'm hitting the portal unless you let me play all four positions". Probably not, but it makes you wonder.

Also, if the kickoff is the most dangerous play in football (NFL has drastically changed their rules for player safety), then why is your best player (athlete) taking kickoffs and fielding punts? Star players in the NFL are not on kickoff and punt teams.
 

hello-world said:
I cannot remember the last time a player just single-handedly gave away a game like that. Wow.

Worst part was that it was obvious that he needed to get pulled after the first half and they just kept putting him out there
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hello-world said:
He wasn’t even good at his core position today. Why is he playing three phases?
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IMHO a big part of coaching is realizing that it may just not be a players day. Again, on to Rutgers.
 

A so called star that doesn’t make big plays. That muff was game over
 

The Strib had an article about the "science" of preparing for a West Coast game.

Probably more like alchemy for this one. I think the lateness of it had an impact on Koi. We'll never know.
 


WayOfTheGopher said:
What did he do against Buffalo or NW State?
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Are you serious? You don’t think this kid is a stud player? He had a bad night, he made stupid plays in all 3 phases! In my opinion the coaches tried to have him do too much and he bought in thinking he had to make plays. Hopefully he learned and the coaches learned. As far as those other two games go I believe he almost busted a couple of returns, played solid D, made some nice catches. Geez, some of you guys act like these guys are supposed to be unflappable super heros instead of the 19-20 year old kids that they are.
 

Gopher Ally said:
Might be too much playing two ways and special teams at this stage, that’s a lot to ask of a young player or anyone
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That might be true. At the same time, id expect Koi to know better than to fair catch inside the five and try to field that ground ball even if he were also getting reps at long snapper, punter, right guard, and offensive coordinator. Speaking of which, pretty sure he would have been an upgrade at OC last night.
 


I’ve said it before…Koi is a lot like Bret Favre - very talented with a cocky swagger who will take individual risks to try and be the game’s hero. Virtually all of it happens as a returner. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t. Hopefully last night was a learning experience. He’s still a good player and I think he’ll bounce back and we’ll see some amazing play by him in the future.
 



Gotta take bad with good. Very talented player. His punt returning is most concerning and really what cost us the game in the end. Can’t make those mistakes, but I want the return yard potential.

Defense is fine. He just didn’t make a couple plays. Eyes cost him on the TD catch.

Offense is on the coaches who drew up a terrible play at a terrible time.
 

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