2025 high school football thread

32 is an arbitrary number.

I saw 6A should only be the biggest 24 or so schools in the state. Why am I wrong?


You could drop Maroon, Moorhead, and Eagan ... then it would seem more reasonable. Maybe one or two more?
 


32 is an arbitrary number.

I saw 6A should only be the biggest 24 or so schools in the state. Why am I wrong?


You could drop Maroon, Moorhead, and Eagan ... then it would seem more reasonable. Maybe one or two more?
24 is also an arbitrary number... In fact all of the numbers selected to separate class sizes are arbitrary for that matter... The biggest head scratcher is the way the MSHSL determines class sizes and doesn't use "REAL" enrolment numbers
 




I wonder if STMA is the largest public school that is still considered in the metro that is the farthest from downtown Mpls or downtown St Paul?

Guessing Lakeville, Shakopee, Forest Lake, Centennial, and Andover would be the other candidates

EDIT: quick check of the driving distance between those and Target Field puts STMA and FL at about the same, but FL is closer to Xcel Center
 

I wonder if STMA is the largest public school that is still considered in the metro that is the farthest from downtown Mpls or downtown St Paul?

Guessing Lakeville, Shakopee, Forest Lake, Centennial, and Andover would be the other candidates

EDIT: quick check of the driving distance between those and Target Field puts STMA and FL at about the same, but FL is closer to Xcel Center
It’s an interesting question defining metro

in terms of time or mileage?


They aren’t as good as big as STMA and maybe not as far away but are the following schools metro or non metro:
Buffalo
Waconia
Hastings
Northfield
New Prague
Becker
North Branch
 

It’s an interesting question defining metro

in terms of time or mileage?


They aren’t as good as big as STMA and maybe not as far away but are the following schools metro or non metro:
Buffalo
Waconia
Hastings
Northfield
New Prague
Becker
North Branch
Heck the media covers and pretends Hutchinson is metro.
 




Heck the media covers and pretends Hutchinson is metro.
I would contend the “metro” is everything on or north of 19
Everything on or east of 169 south of the Mn River
Everything on or east of 25 north of the Mn River


The north metro border a lot harder to place
 


I would contend the “metro” is everything on or north of 19
Everything on or east of 169 south of the Mn River
Everything on or east of 25 north of the Mn River


The north metro border a lot harder to place
I'd tie it to Metro Conference. Cambridge, North Branch, Chisago, St. Francis. All metro.
 

It’s an interesting question defining metro

in terms of time or mileage?


They aren’t as good as big as STMA and maybe not as far away but are the following schools metro or non metro:
Buffalo
Waconia
Hastings
Northfield
New Prague
Becker
North Branch

Jeopardy Masters recently called Northfield a Twin City Exurb, in perhaps the easiest question ever for me personally.

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I was relieved a contestant buzzed in with a correct response.

Nerd alert -

I do take issue with the phrasing of "St Olaf & Carleton, respectively" part. Carleton was founded in 1866 while St Olaf was 1974, so it seems to me that the Knights should have been listed first for complete accuracy.

I don't really favor either of them, but hey let's get it right.
 
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It’s an interesting question defining metro

in terms of time or mileage?


They aren’t as good as big as STMA and maybe not as far away but are the following schools metro or non metro:
Buffalo
Waconia
Hastings
Northfield
New Prague
Becker
North Branch
While very imperfect, the governemnt defines the (core) Metro Statistical Area by county, which includes Hennepin, Ramsey, Washington, Anoka, Carver, Scott, and Dakota.

Does not include Wright, in the core. But again, that's certainly debatable. I'm sure the farthest parts of Carver, Scott, Dakota are farther away from downtown Minneapolis than the closest points in Wright.

However, I think Wright is the only one that realistically could be included in the definition. The ones outside that ... I don't think so.
 

I would contend the “metro” is everything on or north of 19
Everything on or east of 169 south of the Mn River
Everything on or east of 25 north of the Mn River


The north metro border a lot harder to place
25 is a convenient highway in the West, as it goes from Monticello mostly north-south down to just west of Waconia.

I'm not sure if I would label Monti, Buffalo, Watertown Meyer, Waconia as suburbs. But census folks may disagree
 


While very imperfect, the governemnt defines the (core) Metro Statistical Area by county, which includes Hennepin, Ramsey, Washington, Anoka, Carver, Scott, and Dakota.

Does not include Wright, in the core. But again, that's certainly debatable. I'm sure the farthest parts of Carver, Scott, Dakota are farther away from downtown Minneapolis than the closest points in Wright.

However, I think Wright is the only one that realistically could be included in the definition. The ones outside that ... I don't think so.

The 7 counties does seem like a logical definition.

Apologies for yet another Northfield reference but it does make an interesting case study because, while the town and school district are primarily in Rice, a small part of it includes Dakota.

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There are substantial housing developments to the north, farms, plus a few townships, so that virtually every Northfield HS sports team would have multiple Dakota Cty residents.
 




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