Another recruiting tool for coach Fleck? The city of Minneapolis?

Excellent! I can't believe the level of hatred over that.

Hatred? Show me evidence of that.

Minnesota citizens had no voice in the process to change the flag that represented them. It was led by a leftist legislation. The new flag implies very little about Minnesota's heritage nor history.

The old flag did show the farmer, the native Indian and state seal. At least that illustrated a part of the history of the state. Some say the old flag was disrespectful to the Indians. What about being respectful to the hard working immigrants who settled and developed the land and got the state going? What does the new flag vaguely represent?

This is all about being politically correct rather than recognizing the efforts and toil by strong men and women that made our country. Rather than the demands of the feeble now in control
There is good flag design, and then there is bad flag design. Words on a flag is bad design. Pictures on a flag is bad design. A government seal on a flag is poor design. There were about 15 states with state seals or similar on blue bedsheet designs. Multiple examples of these states have begun to look at redesigns. The topic of Minnesota's easily forgettable flag had been brought up multiple times in the past as a target for replacement (both republicans and democrats at different times).

The old flag can't be used on Minnesota product placement, or used to help build a "brand". It was known to even be hung upside down on occasion unknowingly because it was far too complex yet common to be distinguishable from a distance. It was for lack of a better term, a mess.

I always find it notable when someone says the new flag doesn't represent MN. There is a reason why our national flag isn't a copy of the declaration of independence with some eagles and a drawing of uncle sam. The first rule in good flag design is that it is distinguishable from a distance and a child could draw it from memory. The new flag not only has the NORTH STAR represented, but it is in the shape of the star that can be found on the central rotunda floor of our state capital. The geometric shape formed by the dark blue portion represents an abstract image of Minnesota's boundaries. The light blue portion represents sky colored water and when the flag is hung from its end, forms another abstract image of the Mississippi leading to the North Star. But please, do tell me again how it doesn't represent Minnesota any better than other notable first rate state flags like Texas, Arizona, Colorado, and New Mexico.

And all that without even mentioning the racist aspect. Just look at the poem written by the wife of the original designer of the state seal that is featured on the old flag. Not much doubt as to why that Native American is depicted riding off the scene. Not to mention the old flag wasn't voted on either. At least the new one went through a public process with public input and submissions.

The new flag wasn't my first choice. But at least it is of good solid design and has potential to become a great tool for building Minnesota's brand. The old flag was a major lost opportunity as it was seldom flown in Minnesota outside of gov buildings and property (it is flown plenty now, as people make their political statements). I kept close tabs on the process to select the new flag. I took an inventory on "our" lake the summer before the new one was chosen. Exactly two properties (out of hundreds) flew the old flag. Now there are over 20 docks with poles flying the old flag, and they nearly all are of a very dark blue, showing they are freshly purchased.
 
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There is good flag design, and then there is bad flag design. Words on a flag is bad design. Pictures on a flag is bad design. A government seal on a flag is poor design. There were about 15 states with state seals or similar on blue bedsheet designs. Multiple examples of these states have begun to look at redesigns. The topic of Minnesota's easily forgettable flag had been brought up multiple times in the past as a target for replacement (both republicans and democrats at different times).

The old flag can't be used on Minnesota product placement, or used to help build a "brand". It was known to even be hung upside down on occasion unknowingly because it was far too complex yet common to be distinguishable from a distance. It was for lack of a better term, a mess.

I always find it notable when someone says the new flag doesn't represent MN. There is a reason why our national flag isn't a copy of the declaration of independence with some eagles and a drawing of uncle sam. The first rule in good flag design is that it is distinguishable from a distance and a child could draw it from memory. The new flag not only has the NORTH STAR represented, but it is in the shape of the star that can be found on the central rotunda floor of our state capital. The geometric shape formed by the dark blue portion represents an abstract image of Minnesota's boundaries. The light blue portion represents sky colored water and when the flag is hung from its end, forms another abstract image of the Mississippi leading to the North Star. But please, do tell me again how it doesn't represent Minnesota any better than other notable first rate state flags like Texas, Arizona, Colorado, and New Mexico.

And all that without even mentioning the racist aspect. Just look at the poem written by the wife of the original designer of the state seal that is featured on the old flag. Not much doubt as to why that Native American is depicted riding off the scene. Not to mention the old flag wasn't voted on either. At least the new one went through a public process with public input and submissions.

The new flag wasn't my first choice. But at least it is of good solid design and has potential to become a great tool for building Minnesota's brand. The old flag was a major lost opportunity as it was seldom flown in Minnesota outside of gov buildings and property (it is flown plenty now, as people make their political statements). I kept close tabs on the process to select the new flag. I took an inventory on "our" lake the summer before the new one was chosen. Exactly two properties (out of hundreds) flew the old flag. Now there are over 20 docks with poles flying the old flag, and they nearly all are of a very dark blue, showing they are freshly purchased.
Great post!
Three of my siblings put in a flag pole and fly the old design at their homes. When I visit I tell them I can still see the fold marks [from the box it came in]. And, at family get-togethers I wear my hat with the new design just to get a reaction. Just like Peter and his bowtie...
 




There is good flag design, and then there is bad flag design. Words on a flag is bad design. Pictures on a flag is bad design. A government seal on a flag is poor design. There were about 15 states with state seals or similar on blue bedsheet designs. Multiple examples of these states have begun to look at redesigns. The topic of Minnesota's easily forgettable flag had been brought up multiple times in the past as a target for replacement (both republicans and democrats at different times).

The old flag can't be used on Minnesota product placement, or used to help build a "brand". It was known to even be hung upside down on occasion unknowingly because it was far too complex yet common to be distinguishable from a distance. It was for lack of a better term, a mess.

I always find it notable when someone says the new flag doesn't represent MN. There is a reason why our national flag isn't a copy of the declaration of independence with some eagles and a drawing of uncle sam. The first rule in good flag design is that it is distinguishable from a distance and a child could draw it from memory. The new flag not only has the NORTH STAR represented, but it is in the shape of the star that can be found on the central rotunda floor of our state capital. The geometric shape formed by the dark blue portion represents an abstract image of Minnesota's boundaries. The light blue portion represents sky colored water and when the flag is hung from its end, forms another abstract image of the Mississippi leading to the North Star. But please, do tell me again how it doesn't represent Minnesota any better than other notable first rate state flags like Texas, Arizona, Colorado, and New Mexico.

And all that without even mentioning the racist aspect. Just look at the poem written by the wife of the original designer of the state seal that is featured on the old flag. Not much doubt as to why that Native American is depicted riding off the scene. Not to mention the old flag wasn't voted on either. At least the new one went through a public process with public input and submissions.

The new flag wasn't my first choice. But at least it is of good solid design and has potential to become a great tool for building Minnesota's brand. The old flag was a major lost opportunity as it was seldom flown in Minnesota outside of gov buildings and property (it is flown plenty now, as people make their political statements). I kept close tabs on the process to select the new flag. I took an inventory on "our" lake the summer before the new one was chosen. Exactly two properties (out of hundreds) flew the old flag. Now there are over 20 docks with poles flying the old flag, and they nearly all are of a very dark blue, showing they are freshly purchased.
You're completely missing the point. There was no need to change the flag. No need.

It doesn't create or represent a "brand". It was a knee-jerk reaction and a solution looking for a problem.

The Minnesota "brand" right now is a "pick 'em" between either a deranged and hate-filled governor or a deranged and hate-filled House member that the rest of the country laughs at every day. And poor Amy Klobuchar has to carry their water.
 

You're completely missing the point. There was no need to change the flag. No need.

It doesn't create or represent a "brand". It was a knee-jerk reaction and a solution looking for a problem.

The Minnesota "brand" right now is a "pick 'em" between either a deranged and hate-filled governor or a deranged and hate-filled House member that the rest of the country laughs at every day. And poor Amy Klobuchar has to carry their water.
Captain Phillips 2 - Live from Your Living Room

Dis my city now!

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The Minnesota "brand" right now is a "pick 'em" between either a deranged and hate-filled governor or a deranged and hate-filled House member that the rest of the country laughs at every day. And poor Amy Klobuchar has to carry their water.
On FOX Propaganda maybe.

The rest of the world is laughing at the US and our "president."
 




You're completely missing the point. There was no need to change the flag. No need.

It doesn't create or represent a "brand". It was a knee-jerk reaction and a solution looking for a problem.

The Minnesota "brand" right now is a "pick 'em" between either a deranged and hate-filled governor or a deranged and hate-filled House member that the rest of the country laughs at every day. And poor Amy Klobuchar has to carry their water.
I disagree. It was an outdated design that resembled too many other states' designs and it was way too busy/messy. I was glad when they announced a makeover; however, I knew there would be a shitstorm reaction when it was mentioned that removing racist elements was also a reason, especially from the people that had no idea what was actually on the flag. They just wanted to bitch "wokeism".
 


I disagree. It was an outdated design that resembled too many other states' designs and it was way too busy/messy. I was glad when they announced a makeover; however, I knew there would be a shitstorm reaction when it was mentioned that removing racist elements was also a reason, especially from the people that had no idea what was actually on the flag. They just wanted to bitch "wokeism".
Nope. People are upset because the new flag was designed to represent the lawless inbreeders that are destroying our state.
 



You're completely missing the point. There was no need to change the flag. No need.

It doesn't create or represent a "brand". It was a knee-jerk reaction and a solution looking for a problem.

The Minnesota "brand" right now is a "pick 'em" between either a deranged and hate-filled governor or a deranged and hate-filled House member that the rest of the country laughs at every day. And poor Amy Klobuchar has to carry their water.
It was a “knee jerk reaction” dating back to the 1960’s and beyond.

There were a LOT of reasons for change and that has been the case for a LONG time. I wouldn’t expect you to understand the branding stuff, given what I have read from you as it relates to Gopher football over the years.
 





Excellent! I can't believe the level of hatred over that.

Hatred? Show me evidence of that.

Minnesota citizens had no voice in the process to change the flag that represented them. It was led by a leftist legislation. The new flag implies very little about Minnesota's heritage nor history.

The old flag did show the farmer, the native Indian and state seal. At least that illustrated a part of the history of the state. Some say the old flag was disrespectful to the Indians. What about being respectful to the hard working immigrants who settled and developed the land and got the state going? What does the new flag vaguely represent?

This is all about being politically correct rather than recognizing the efforts and toil by strong men and women that made our country. Rather than the demands of the feeble now in control
Illinois recently discussed replacing their flag, it was voted down, other priorities. Imagine that, Illinois doing something sensible and there was a vote!
 

Dear moderators -

Will you please move this thread to a different forum? It long ago stopped being about Gophers football.

Thanks in advance.
The point is that the city of Minneapolis itself may not be a recruiting advantage, but the entire metro with its number of fortune 500 companies and its opportunities for a variety of outdoor fun makes it a welcoming place to be. Fleck can take the recruits out to be baptized in the waters of Lake Minnetonka and connect them to the spirit of Prince. Overall, it's a great variety of experience to be had in the Twin Cities metro. Bike, hike, kayak, cross country and alpine ski, and more.
 


The point is that the city of Minneapolis itself may not be a recruiting advantage, but the entire metro with its number of fortune 500 companies and its opportunities for a variety of outdoor fun makes it a welcoming place to be. Fleck can take the recruits out to be baptized in the waters of Lake Minnetonka and connect them to the spirit of Prince. Overall, it's a great variety of experience to be had in the Twin Cities metro. Bike, hike, kayak, cross country and alpine ski, and more.

I understand, and appreciate the original intent, but the thread has spun wildly out of control and far from anything remotely related to Gophers football.
 



Good question. I don't know. What the heck. It's Friday. Why not try.
Yes I am aware that it looks like I am talking to myself. With that said, I already wasted 5 plus minutes. I couldn't figure out for sure whether I could lock this thread or not. I can edit the title though.
 





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