I'd take him for a year to give Phillips a USHL year...
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And his brother plays for Sparty.
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@ Pinball not necessarily apples to apples to compare winning % on a coach who's been head coach for 20 years compared to 4, so if we look at the first 4 years of each we have Bob at 81-60 and Barr at 69-58. Barr stepped into a much worse situation at Maine than Bob did at SCSU. I see Barr on an upward trajectory, and to me Bob has flattened and as far as recruiting goes I'd say he's taken a step back the last few cycles. This is why I think it's time to move on, and think Barr would be a great replacement.
GopherPete, you are entitled to your opinion and i respect it. IMO I will take a 20 year proven coach (Motzko) who's has won 65% of his games to a coach (Barr) who has only been a head coach for four years. Barr is a good coach now but it is unproven if he will continue to be a good coach, time will tell. As for Motzko flattening out, his team was 6th in the final Pairwise rankings this year. IMO, this is not flattening out. This years recruiting class may not have the star power but atleast give it a chance. Next years cycle is not over yet so we will see what happens there.
I think they had a little advantage on this as his brother is already at MSU. We weren’t getting that guy if you were hoping.
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The 07’s and 08’s haven’t even played a game yet and the 04-06’s include multiple first round picks, NTDP players, WJC Players, flipping the USHL defenseman of the year, landing the top portal player on paper with Wood. Bringing in Ludtke who was one of the highest drafted players in the portal.
There is only one player current or future that would be worth stealing from MTU with the coaching change. He's already on his second team and the Gophers don't recruit Russians so would likely end up elsewhere like PSU or UConn.
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Unlikely he is transferring anywhere. Buffalo holds his sights until this fall. He is waiting to become a free agent and then moving onThere is only one player current or future that would be worth stealing from MTU with the coaching change. He's already on his second team and the Gophers don't recruit Russians so would likely end up elsewhere like PSU or UConn.
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MSU lands another star... It's over for the Gophers. The donation/NIL base is too weak at the U. Depressing
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Go be a fan of theirs then. I'm sure they would love to have such a great fan like you onboard.MSU lands another star... It's over for the Gophers. The donation/NIL base is too weak at the U. Depressing
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The good news is about 3 years after bonin declared that the B1G killed the program we were inches away from a national title, so I all of a sudden feel pretty good about the future.
Bonin is a fan of Michigan State and every other school in the Big Ten except the Gophers.
BU flips a drafted prospect from Harvard
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Can’t say this tips the scales in any way, but wouldn’t surprise me if Montreal steered him thereBU flips a drafted prospect from Harvard
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A 19 year old 6th rounder is going to be equivalent to an older guy. There’s not much of anything here
Is this your subtle shot at Motzko because he wasn't on the staff? Funny, you didn't mention the 3 former Gophers who were on the team, instead you focused on the MSU coach. True colors show...
Past players that are still in the pros have extremely little impact on recruiting. Other than something like a cousin. It wouldn't surprise me to see Mooney transfer after one year if the team struggles as I expect them to.
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On the woman's side, Alya Puppe, Minnesota's 2024 hockey player of the year, is leaving the Gophers and will play for Minnesota State - Mankato, next year..
So you are telling me that being an assistant on a primarily pro tourney will help in recruiting? I would say being head coach of the World Junior team would have a larger impact. But I'm sure you will come up with some negative spin about that as well.
Vanek26, You should know by now that Bonin21, ala Eeyore is a completed fraud as a Gopher Hockey fan. Thats the reason why he didn't mention any Gopher players and only mentioned the Michigan State coach.
Fraud as a fan that goes to every FF the Gophers make, regionals in SF/Fargo, away games in Kato/Col Springs/Madison/Duluth/Cloud, was a season ticket holder in the highest donation section (club room) until finally getting sick of Big Ten opponents...
Many Gopher fans just accept mediocrity (especially on here where they also support the irrelevant bball and football teams) and think conference banners in the lame Big Ten are cool. Two titles is 45 years is pathetic.
I'm a Gopher hockey fan, but I'm done with the Motzko era. It's so obvious the same things that happened at the end of the Lucia era are happening again and it's already a year late starting the next era. And the NIL and CHL are making the downward spiral even faster than the Lucia era.
Many Gopher fans just accept mediocrity (especially on here where they also support the irrelevant bball and football teams) and think conference banners in the lame Big Ten are cool. Two titles is 45 years is pathetic.
I'm a Gopher hockey fan, but I'm done with the Motzko era. It's so obvious the same things that happened at the end of the Lucia era are happening again and it's already a year late starting the next era. And the NIL and CHL are making the downward spiral even faster than the Lucia era.
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It's college sports, it's all irrelevant.
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I think the trouble people have with you is its not objective. You are clearly a fan and anyone who says otherwise is wrong. A very negative, pessimistic fan, but a fan nonetheless.
I agree with you the title drought is far too long for a program of this stature, but this idea we're in some free fall is way overblown. This year will likely be a rebuild barring something coming through the pipeline late from the CHL, but for next year (And including some recent history in regards to the "spiral" regarding the last 4 years after COVID) for the blue bloods and PSU given their "surge". The draft picks are per CHN, which hasn't been fully updated for everyone (think Sergeev is still on for PSU) so apologize if numbers are slightly off
MN: draft picks pending this year 10, 4 NCAA tournaments, 2 FFs, 3 regular season titles, no conf tournament title
MSU: 10 draft picks, 2 NCAA tournaments, 0 FFs, 2 regular season titles, 2 conf tournament titles
MI: 5 draft picks, 3 NCAA tournaments, 3 FFs, 0 regular season titles, 1 conf tournament
BU: 12 draft picks, 3 NCAA tournaments, 3 FFs, 1 regular season title, 1 conf tournament
BC: 9 draft picks, 2 NCAA tournaments, 1 FF, 2 regular season titles, 1 conf tournament
DU: 11 draft picks, 4 NCAA tournaments, 3FFs, 2 titles, 2 regular season titles, 1 conf tournament
UND: 9 draft picks, 2 NCAA tournaments, 0 FFs, 2 regular season titles, no conf tournaments
PSU: 4 draft picks, 2 NCAA tournaments, 1 FF, no regular season or conf tourney titles
The whole "pipeline" comment doesn't mean much of anything until they hit campus at this point because projecting them has been a disaster and we've seen guys flip much more readily recently (handshake, good old boys club days are over).
Obviously at the end of the day you're judged for winning and losing and especially winning the big one. Bob the same as anyone. DU and Carle are the cream of the crop for good reason but its been a long time for many of the blue bloods with 8 years for UND, 12 for BC, 15 for BU, 17 for MSU, and 26 for Michigan.
BU has 2 titles in 47 years, MSU 2 since 67, MI 2 since 64, BC had the streak of 4 but hadn't had one since 49 before that, and UND has won once in 25 years. Don't know why you're making this out like its just us
I would expect Bob has a leash of 1 or 2 years where if he doesn't make another run/FF that he won't continue to be the coach here. Lucia had the grace of a couple of titles and running rough shod over the new big ten which bought him extra time
I keep a document of draft picks across all of college hockey, though it's WAY harder now... I'll update this over time. But as of now, BU roster is looking absolutely insane.
UMN: 14
10 drafted + Rombach/Moe/Kvasnicka/Mooney (assume Phillips delayed)
0 first round
0 second round (expecting Rombach here)
2 third round
BU: 20
11 drafted + Boumedienne/Pridham/Norringer/Merrill/Murtagh/Tretheway/Wang/Fondrk/Amico (probably push Morin)
2 first round (+ expecting Boumedienne)
3 second round (+ expecting Murtagh/Amico/Fondrk/Tretheway/Wang)
2 third round (+ Pridham)
MSU 15
10 drafted + Vansaghi/Lindstrom/Nilson/Lee/Virk
2 first round (+ Lindstrom)
3 second round (+ expecting Vansaghi/Nilson)
0 third round (+ expecting Lee)
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i knew you were crazy but..... jkjk
its part of why i don't love the listing of rounds. DU had Zeev, WMU had 0 first rounders. its all about the team, their age, etc. and that the drafted guys are very often based on potential (such as Stramel when he played for WI and has bloomed very late) and others who will be outstanding college players get pushed down (or up) due to size or things of that nature (see Phillips and Mooney going the opposite directions for this). The last 5 national champions have had a total of 1 1st round pick on them.
I historically haven't cared about rounds much either and have been proud of the Gophers having the most draft picks in the country even if others had higher picks. But now they have neither the most nor the most top picks. And we can all look back and say most of the most impactful players on recent Gopher teams have been top 2 round picks.
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yeah i mean if you want to lump 1st and 2nd rounders, sure that's fair.
Mooney probably the best "impact" guy we have coming in in terms of high end skill and would be a 1st rounder if he were 2 inches taller (maybe even an inch). Think someone will take a chance on Mooney late 2nd after seeing more small guys make it and with the grit/hitting he showed against his peers recently. Rombach I think will sneak in there as well.
"high end" guys are going to be limited from this group I agree, but there is a good amount of older, established talent on this roster as well. likely be a very different team to watch play style (and likely not in a fun way for fans unless you like grinding hockey, which i guess can be fun if they make it physical rather than clutch and grab).