Still No Statement from Ben Johnson

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So, when was the last statement we've gotten from Niko?
 



TwistingMyMelon said:
Dead wrong about what? I never claimed he would be a great success here but I hoped that he might be able to pull off a decent enough 4th year to get a 5th. I guess I'm just a sucker for a redemption story. Obviously he fell well short.

If I ever care about "looking bad" to a smug dolt on an anonymous message board, I should pack it in just on principle.
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It might be worth taking a look at though?
 



gopherbadgerman said:
Who cares if you’re him. You got millions and you’ll never coach around here again. He probably thought he got shafted and doesn’t wanna answer those tough questions.
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That mindset is one of the reasons he wasn't successful. I agree with you that he feels he got shafted, but that's the problem. He was historically unsuccessful, he was paid more than he'll ever get paid again, and he had the worst resume of anyone I've ever seen get that kind of opportunity and he feels like he got the short end of the stick.

I agree with you that he likely has that mindset, but that's the mindset of a loser.

BTW - It took the new Xavier coach all of the 12 hours to thank everyone after we canned him (1 year removed from an NCAA tournament win).
 



Horses? Pfft!
 

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jamiche said:
To my knowledge Holtz, Gutekunst, Wacker, Brewster, Kill, Claeys, Monson, Tubby, Mega Tongue and all of the WBB coaches (except Whalen) never gave interviews after they were fired.
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I seem to recall Claeys’ final interview after being fired… it occurred on the field just as his final game had ended, as he and the Gopher football team were headed to the locker room.

He had 3 words to say, as his parting shot, on a miserable, cold Saturday. He said, “enjoy the weather.” :rockon:
 

Unregistered User said:
This still shocks me.

Fred Hoiberg, career record at Nebraska-84-108, .438, 6 seasons
Ben Johnson, career record at Minnesota-56-71, .441 4 seasons
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Historically bad for MN.

And Ben (likely) played an easier schedule than Hoiberg. You can't schedule softer schedules than Ben did.
 

mngolf said:
Historically bad for MN.

And Ben (likely) played an easier schedule than Hoiberg. You can't schedule softer schedules than Ben did.
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I was going to reply this. He had the worst conference winning percentage in school history, which is, by definition, historically bad.

It's okay to talk about facts. That's not an undue shot at the individual. He himself knows he wasn't as successful here as anyone who came before him...or as successful as he'd hoped he'd be. My hope for him is that he circles back and fills in the gaps of his knowledge and knowhow and overall capability and goes on to continue to make a living coaching, if that's what he wants to do. He HAS coaching talent and ability. But this radio silence is emblematic of one of his failures here: the disinclination or inability to do the PR part of the job, which is part of the job. A coach at this level needs to be the five-tool total package, which includes PR.
 

Bad Gopher said:
I was going to reply this. He had the worst conference winning percentage in school history, which is, by definition, historically bad.

It's okay to talk about facts. That's not an undue shot at the individual. He himself knows he wasn't as successful here as anyone who came before him...or as successful as he'd hoped he'd be. My hope for him is that he circles back and fills in the gaps of his knowledge and knowhow and overall capability and goes on to continue to make a living coaching, if that's what he wants to do. He HAS coaching talent and ability. But this radio silence is emblematic of one of his failures here: the disinclination or inability to do the PR part of the job, which is part of the job. A coach at this level needs to be the five-tool total package, which includes PR.
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Some are cut out to be chief of staff and others better suited for the executive public role.
 


Unregistered User said:
This still shocks me.

Fred Hoiberg, career record at Nebraska-84-108, .438, 6 seasons
Ben Johnson, career record at Minnesota-56-71, .441 4 seasons
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Also:
Fred Hoiberg 37-82 (.311) and 1 NCAA Tournament appearance. He is also 28-32 the last three seasons.

Ben Johnson 22-57 (.278) and 0 NCAA Tournaments.

Hoiberg's been real bad at Nebraska, Ben was a lot worse.
 



dinkything said:
I seem to recall Claeys’ final interview after being fired… it occurred on the field just as his final game had ended, as he and the Gopher football team were headed to the locker room.

He had 3 words to say, as his parting shot, on a miserable, cold Saturday. He said, “enjoy the weather.” :rockon:
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I believe that was after he was fired...but yes.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
Also:
Fred Hoiberg 37-82 (.311) and 1 NCAA Tournament appearance. He is also 28-32 the last three seasons.

Ben Johnson 22-57 (.278) and 0 NCAA Tournaments.

Hoiberg's been real bad at Nebraska, Ben was a lot worse.
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Agree with this. Hoiberg has been very bad, and Ben worse. Fred should be gone too.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
That mindset is one of the reasons he wasn't successful. I agree with you that he feels he got shafted, but that's the problem. He was historically unsuccessful, he was paid more than he'll ever get paid again, and he had the worst resume of anyone I've ever seen get that kind of opportunity and he feels like he got the short end of the stick.

I agree with you that he likely has that mindset, but that's the mindset of a loser.

BTW - It took the new Xavier coach all of the 12 hours to thank everyone after we canned him (1 year removed from an NCAA tournament win).
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So he has that mindset? Or he likely has that mindset?

Whether "we" like it or not, he no longer owes us anything. "We've" moved on. Whether he likes it or not, he has as well.
 

STPGopher said:
So he has that mindset? Or he likely has that mindset?

Whether "we" like it or not, he no longer owes us anything. "We've" moved on. Whether he likes it or not, he has as well.
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The likely is implied. How would I possibly know the inner workings of Ben Johnson's thought process. Heck of a "gotcha" there.

No one has argued he "owes" us anything. The entire discussion is whether he should make a statement like an adult. I'm sure many of us do many things in life that we are not contractually obligated to do.
 

Bad Gopher said:
I was going to reply this. He had the worst conference winning percentage in school history, which is, by definition, historically bad.

It's okay to talk about facts. That's not an undue shot at the individual. He himself knows he wasn't as successful here as anyone who came before him...or as successful as he'd hoped he'd be. My hope for him is that he circles back and fills in the gaps of his knowledge and knowhow and overall capability and goes on to continue to make a living coaching, if that's what he wants to do. He HAS coaching talent and ability. But this radio silence is emblematic of one of his failures here: the disinclination or inability to do the PR part of the job, which is part of the job. A coach at this level needs to be the five-tool total package, which includes PR.
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Fair. He did some things incorrectly, but he did show promise in some areas. To borrow a coach Fleck term, hopefully failure will be growth. Time away may very well be the best thing for him.
 


Bob_Loblaw said:
Also:
Fred Hoiberg 37-82 (.311) and 1 NCAA Tournament appearance. He is also 28-32 the last three seasons.

Ben Johnson 22-57 (.278) and 0 NCAA Tournaments.

Hoiberg's been real bad at Nebraska, Ben was a lot worse.
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Like comparing a car crash with a plane crash who cares you’re both bad. But neither one of them are coaching Minnesota right now so it’s all good.
 

Hoiberg has a massive buyout, negotiated by the previous AD. They can't really do better than him anyway, so keep running it back.

He was a pioneer in building yearly rosters with rentals before that was mainstream, but that advantage is gone.
 

formerlybis said:
Hoiberg has a massive buyout, negotiated by the previous AD. They can't really do better than him anyway, so keep running it back.

He was a pioneer in building yearly rosters with rentals before that was mainstream, but that advantage is gone.
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Yep and he had the leverage to get that buyout because of his success at Iowa State.
 

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