Curtis twins at St. Louis Park, how good are they?

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Anyone see the Curtis Twins at St. Louis Park and wonder why they are going mid major to UND? 6-9 230lb guys who play some point guard, can shoot from distance, score inside. Athletic with College ready bodies. I've only seen them on youtube playing Wayzata and Hopkins.
 


march madness said:
Anyone see the Curtis Twins at St. Louis Park and wonder why they are going mid major to UND? 6-9 230lb guys who play some point guard, can shoot from distance, score inside. Athletic with College ready bodies. I've only seen them on youtube playing Wayzata and Hopkins.
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Haven't seen them play, but UND is a good proving ground to showcase skills and get stronger. Play a year or two at the mid-major level and see whether there is a bigger market that wants you.
 

They are super athletic, and strong. They both play incredibly hard. For their age, very physically mature and explosive. They're more of a 4 working to be 3s (ballhandling, shooting). I saw them play Orono this year, and while Groves just dominated that game, they were on the same level physically and athletically (more athletic IMO). In the current world of college hoops, I'd expect them to do well for a year or 2 at UND, then go higher.
 

Juicer said:
They are super athletic, and strong. They both play incredibly hard. For their age, very physically mature and explosive. They're more of a 4 working to be 3s (ballhandling, shooting). I saw them play Orono this year, and while Groves just dominated that game, they were on the same level physically and athletically (more athletic IMO). In the current world of college hoops, I'd expect them to do well for a year or 2 at UND, then go higher.
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They are definitely more athletic.
 


FinnGopher said:
Haven't seen them play, but UND is a good proving ground to showcase skills and get stronger. Play a year or two at the mid-major level and see whether there is a bigger market that wants you.
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Have we seen many high major recruits going to mid-majors for immediate playing time/development? Seems like a good strategy in the current era
 

Juicer said:
They are super athletic, and strong. They both play incredibly hard. For their age, very physically mature and explosive. They're more of a 4 working to be 3s (ballhandling, shooting). I saw them play Orono this year, and while Groves just dominated that game, they were on the same level physically and athletically (more athletic IMO). In the current world of college hoops, I'd expect them to do well for a year or 2 at UND, then go higher.
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I was just surprised they aren't more highly rated. Some might have to do with playing for an underseen program. Team was lost against teams like Wayzata and Hopkins. I also don't know if they wanted to play at the same college, if that affected any offers? If they are in fact 6-9 230lbs, they are 4's already! I'd say they are the 3rd and 4th best post players in 2025, after Ahneman and Thompson.
 

Park didn't have good guards, so they were the guards most of the game, but when they did post up or drive they were tough. I watched Thompson in person and he is 6-8/6-9 and maybe 210. He would have a hard time with their strength.
 

I happened to have provided the color commentary for St. Louis Park public access for their game against Hopkins—boring all the viewers with stories of the Lloyd Holm-Butsie Maetzold rivalry. They’re athletic and could play the full length of the court at any of the positions if necessary. Hopkins was relentless and overwhelmed the SLP guards which reduced the brothers’ influence over the game. One of the brothers (can’t remember which one) struck me as having college three point shooting range with a quick release. Extrapolating a couple years—they appear no less skilled than the Sanford twins of the late Clem years. The difference now being they’ll get paid more to play serious minutes at a mid-major than play spot roles at Minnesota. If they continue to grow and improve it would be a terrific story if they became rotational players for Minnesota a couple years from now.
 



Married@SiebertField said:
I happened to have provided the color commentary for St. Louis Park public access for their game against Hopkins—boring all the viewers with stories of the Lloyd Holm-Butsie Maetzold rivalry. They’re athletic and could play the full length of the court at any of the positions if necessary. Hopkins was relentless and overwhelmed the SLP guards which reduced the brothers’ influence over the game. One of the brothers (can’t remember which one) struck me as having college three point shooting range with a quick release. Extrapolating a couple years—they appear no less skilled than the Sanford twins of the late Clem years. The difference now being they’ll get paid more to play serious minutes at a mid-major than play spot roles at Minnesota. If they continue to grow and improve it would be a terrific story if they became rotational players for Minnesota a couple years from now.
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Thanks M@SF! In the clips I saw, they reminded me of a more skilled (probably not quite as freaky athletic) versions of Jarvis Omersa.

I'd love for both of them to have scholarships here but from what I've seen, you're right, one of them is more skilled than the other one.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
Thanks M@SF! In the clips I saw, they reminded me of a more skilled (probably not quite as freaky athletic) versions of Jarvis Omersa.

I'd love for both of them to have scholarships here but from what I've seen, you're right, one of them is more skilled than the other one.
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My brother works in SLP district. That's pretty much the exact thing he said about the twins, also mentioning Omersa. Said they're both raw, but one was clearly better. Full disclosure, I don't know their names, so don't know which one he's saying is better. He was surprised one got a scholly to UND.
 

Kinda reminds me of Duoth and Both Gach, one went to Utah and the other NAIA I believe
 

Micah Curtis averaged 30 ppg and 10 rebounds, he had a high of 59 against Chaska I think. Those are some gaudy stats for an unranked 6-9 player.
 
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They are both a bit raw. One more than the other. Certainly athletic and big enough. Need to improve to play power conference D1. Hard to tell how good they are when the rest of SLP was pretty mediocre this year.
 

Anyone remember the Stanford twins? Played pickup ball with them a few times at the rec center.
 

march madness said:
Micah Curtis averaged 30 ppg and 10 rebounds, he had a high of 59 against Chaska I think. Those are some gaudy stats for an unranked 6-9 player.
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He's also kind of a freak athlete. In his highlights, he's one of those guys that looks like he's playing on 9 ft rims.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
He's also kind of a freak athlete. In his highlights, he's one of those guys that looks like he's playing on 9 ft rims.
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I agree, I guess that's why I'm dumbfounded that there is a 6-9 built high schooler, that athletic, putting up those numbers and he's not ranked, and he's going to a mid major?

Mid major's are usually one of three things: way undersized, under athletic for your position, or late bloomer. Maybe he is a late bloomer?

It interesting how Nolan Graves was putting up big time scoring numbers in 3A, and people were saying anyone who is putting up 30+ with high's in the 50's or 60's should be offered a scholarship by the U, the same doesn't apply to Curtis in 4A?
 

march madness said:
I agree, I guess that's why I'm dumbfounded that there is a 6-9 built high schooler, that athletic, putting up those numbers and he's not ranked, and he's going to a mid major?

Mid major's are usually one of three things: way undersized, under athletic for your position, or late bloomer. Maybe he is a late bloomer?

It interesting how Nolan Graves was putting up big time scoring numbers in 3A, and people were saying anyone who is putting up 30+ with high's in the 50's or 60's should be offered a scholarship by the U, the same doesn't apply to Curtis in 4A?
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I had no idea he was putting up those kinds of stats. Looks like a long night of breaking down YouTube highlights for this guy. For the record anyone putting up 30+ a game in 4A deserves a spot on our roster. Would love to see this change under Niko compared to what we saw with Ben and Pitino. I have a harder time remembering but I feel like Tubby did a better job filling his bench with guys that could at least chew gum and dribble at the same time
 

If you watch the YouTube footage of the Park-Orono game, the Twins play above the rim and look good! Easy dunkers and nice stroke. Also like Miles Newton from Breck. No idea why he isn’t high major.
 

Anyone remember the Madsen twins (Gabe & Mason)?
Played down here in Rochester for Mayo High. I knew they were good, but could never have imagined they'd end up playing significant minutes in college for D1 programs (Cincinnati, Boston College, and Utah)
 

GopherJack said:
Anyone remember the Madsen twins (Gabe & Mason)?
Played down here in Rochester for Mayo High. I knew they were good, but could never have imagined they'd end up playing significant minutes in college for D1 programs (Cincinnati, Boston College, and Utah)
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Gabe was recruited by the Gophers out of high school and again in the portal. I don’t think the gophers ever offered the other twin (Mason?) who I think ended up being the better college player.
 


march madness said:
I agree, I guess that's why I'm dumbfounded that there is a 6-9 built high schooler, that athletic, putting up those numbers and he's not ranked, and he's going to a mid major?

Mid major's are usually one of three things: way undersized, under athletic for your position, or late bloomer. Maybe he is a late bloomer?

It interesting how Nolan Graves was putting up big time scoring numbers in 3A, and people were saying anyone who is putting up 30+ with high's in the 50's or 60's should be offered a scholarship by the U, the same doesn't apply to Curtis in 4A?
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Yeah. I don’t get it with this guy. It’s one thing if you’re putting up huge numbers and you’re undersized or not a great athlete. I don’t get it with him. I’d be very surprised if he isn’t playing P5 basketball in a couple years.

I’d offer both of them yesterday.
 

I was at H4 Sports Academy in Edina two Saturdays ago and watched these kids train with other D1 prospects including Anthony Smith, Jojo Mitchell + a couple others I didn't recognize. My daughter was finishing her training on the adjacent court and we stuck around and watched them run 4-on-4 full court for about 20 minutes.

First thing I noticed is they weren't much taller than me and I'm 6'5" so I don't think 6'9" is accurate. I would guess 6'6" or 6'7." Keep in mind I wasn't back to back with these kids, just a guess as they we were all mulling around the gym in close proximity.

Both were very talented and physically dominating the runs. However, I don't think the physicality would stick out at the major D1 level like it did in High School, especially in the B1G. Ball handling was solid, but not exceptional. Both had solid jumpers, but (again) not exceptional. Both showed fluidity and quickness during drills, but you could tell that they were still working on their perimeter games. I asked one of the trainers how the SLPk team wasn't better and he told me defenses would just pack the lane and they would have 2-3 defenders on them when SLPk set up the half court offense.

I think UND is a great spot for these kids. If they continue to work, I could see one or both putting up great numbers and earning a high major scholarship through the portal.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
Yeah. I don’t get it with this guy. It’s one thing if you’re putting up huge numbers and you’re undersized or not a great athlete. I don’t get it with him. I’d be very surprised if he isn’t playing P5 basketball in a couple years.

I’d offer both of them yesterday.
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You are probably right. Perhaps in this landscape coaches look at guys that are a little raw on the skill side and say- they need to play in games and I don't have playing time for guys that aren't ready. If they are good at a lower level, I'll deal with trying to recruit them then and steal them with a little money. I'm with you, I'd take a chance at stuffing them on the roster.
 


Are we going to get tons of recruiting updates abotu St. Thomas along with articles and a bunch of fans apoplectic because the Gophers didn't play them? (sounds like hockey!) Cause that is what we get with St. Thomas.

St. Thomas/Gopher Basketball = NDSU/Gopher Football
 

TruPhan said:
I was at H4 Sports Academy in Edina two Saturdays ago and watched these kids train with other D1 prospects including Anthony Smith, Jojo Mitchell + a couple others I didn't recognize. My daughter was finishing her training on the adjacent court and we stuck around and watched them run 4-on-4 full court for about 20 minutes.

First thing I noticed is they weren't much taller than me and I'm 6'5" so I don't think 6'9" is accurate. I would guess 6'6" or 6'7." Keep in mind I wasn't back to back with these kids, just a guess as they we were all mulling around the gym in close proximity.

Both were very talented and physically dominating the runs. However, I don't think the physicality would stick out at the major D1 level like it did in High School, especially in the B1G. Ball handling was solid, but not exceptional. Both had solid jumpers, but (again) not exceptional. Both showed fluidity and quickness during drills, but you could tell that they were still working on their perimeter games. I asked one of the trainers how the SLPk team wasn't better and he told me defenses would just pack the lane and they would have 2-3 defenders on them when SLPk set up the half court offense.

I think UND is a great spot for these kids. If they continue to work, I could see one or both putting up great numbers and earning a high major scholarship through the porta
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TruPhan said:
I was at H4 Sports Academy in Edina two Saturdays ago and watched these kids train with other D1 prospects including Anthony Smith, Jojo Mitchell + a couple others I didn't recognize. My daughter was finishing her training on the adjacent court and we stuck around and watched them run 4-on-4 full court for about 20 minutes.

First thing I noticed is they weren't much taller than me and I'm 6'5" so I don't think 6'9" is accurate. I would guess 6'6" or 6'7." Keep in mind I wasn't back to back with these kids, just a guess as they we were all mulling around the gym in close proximity.

Both were very talented and physically dominating the runs. However, I don't think the physicality would stick out at the major D1 level like it did in High School, especially in the B1G. Ball handling was solid, but not exceptional. Both had solid jumpers, but (again) not exceptional. Both showed fluidity and quickness during drills, but you could tell that they were still working on their perimeter games. I asked one of the trainers how the SLPk team wasn't better and he told me defenses would just pack the lane and they would have 2-3 defenders on them when SLPk set up the half court offense.

I think UND is a great spot for these kids. If they continue to work, I could see one or both putting up great numbers and earning a high major scholarship through the portal.
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I also used to notice the future gophers I would see in high school being 1-2 inches shorter than their listed height. Then I remembered, I was 6' and they listed me as 6-2" in high school. They almost always measure you in shoes in high school, college, and it used to be that way in the NBA, until the combine--they would have both listed. FYI Olajuwon was not 7' (read his biography), Barkely was 6-4 and 3/4, K love listed at 6-10, was 6-7 and change!

My point is listing them at 6-9 in shoes is likely the shoe inflation, but so is everyone else. Mitchell was definitely not 6-8. Sometimes people do grow and are their listed height in bare feet. I have a really old Athlon College basketball magazine with Jimmy Jackson and Steve Smith on the cover. Smith looks at least 4 inches taller. Both were listed as 6-6 in college. NBA combine Jackson was 6-4, Smith was 6-8 w/o shoes. Jackson never grew, and Smith did, and they never changed the roster.
 

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