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MNMaroonMom said:
A little off topic but can someone refresh my memory what commitments we having coming in next year? Also I for one hope Isaac Asuma sticks around. I really like his game.
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Asuma can be a really good player in the right offense. This one was not it. He is a pass first point guard that Ben stuck in the corner on offense. Asuma has a ways to go but he has the potential.
 

I am guessing it is going to be Medved. I am 100% okay with this. He has had success at CSU. He finds diamonds in the rough, and he has a good group of sophomores who could come along with him. I get we want splashy, but no matter who we get it will be exciting and better than what we had.
 


stocker08 said:
Got it. White coaches only. Otherwise it's DEI.
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Look you conveniently ignored the second/third part of my original post to make an asshole comment but it's not the first time or particularly surprising. Ben Johnson was hired for 1 of 2 reasons -- as a DEI hire given the political climate at the time or a way overblown attempt to shoehorn Minnesota connections to a belief it would lead to a mass influx of Minnesota talent. I don't know which it was (certainly not on resume) but either rationale was misguided if it led to hiring an inferior candidate. By the way there were better options under either of those scenarios available. I simply stated I don't want a candidate search limited by any particular criteria. Perhaps you should go back to complaining about refs.
 

Beerculees said:
Ryan Saunders has a worse career win pct than Ben and has never coached in college... You would entertain that guy??? That would be like combining the hire of Pitino and Johnson. Hiring a guy because his dad was a great coach and has no experience. That would be a complete disaster.
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That would be a fresh idea for a new thread: (Coach X) is a COMPLETE disaster
 





jamiche said:
Generally teams hire the opposite of what they had before. Pitino had personality but wasn't one of us. Ben was one of us but didn't have the personality to sell the program. I think Coyle goes splashy this time, if he has the money.
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I was actually impressed with some of the players that Ben was able to recruit. He seemed good at assessing talent and bought in several players that were better than I thought he would have been able to get with his limited HC experience. The problem was in keeping those players. I agree that Ben was not a national figure for the program, but he did seem to be able to win over recruits on a one-on-one basis.
 

Bobek said:
Fiery is fine, as long as the new coach isn’t a constant whiner and complainer, like the Hurley boys, who have never agreed with any call against their teams, ever!
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Fans love fiery coaches because we only seen them twice a week and we can vent our frustrations vicariously through them as they jump around and scream at refs and players. However, when you have to deal with that every day for 6 months or so, it gets pretty old pretty fast. How about finding somebody near the middle of the Hurley-style rage and the "probably much too Zen" style of Johnson.
 





golfing18now said:
Look you conveniently ignored the second/third part of my original post to make an asshole comment but it's not the first time or particularly surprising. Ben Johnson was hired for 1 of 2 reasons -- as a DEI hire given the political climate at the time or a way overblown attempt to shoehorn Minnesota connections to a belief it would lead to a mass influx of Minnesota talent. I don't know which it was (certainly not on resume) but either rationale was misguided if it led to hiring an inferior candidate. By the way there were better options under either of those scenarios available. I simply stated I don't want a candidate search limited by any particular criteria. Perhaps you should go back to complaining about refs.
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If you're going to push race and gender baiting dogwhistles like "DEI" that are being widely used to target women and minorities all over the country....then be prepared to be called out on it. Don't play innocent or act like YOU are the one being unfairly targeted.
 



bga1 said:
Asuma can be a really good player in the right offense. This one was not it. He is a pass first point guard that Ben stuck in the corner on offense. Asuma has a ways to go but he has the potential.
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I like Ike best when he drives the lane and wish he did that more. He can finish, but I would like to see him kick it out when the situation calls for it.

But I agree, he's always a head's-up player looking for the pass rather than the shot...polar opposite of Patterson.
 

GopherGold01 said:
My guess is someone that nobody has suggested or expected.
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Overall this is a pretty insane list. There's very little chance of most of these even considering the job.

Medved obviously is a logical listing, and McCollum should be the first call even if he might turn it down.

But for the name no one has suggested yet, I submit Herb Sendek.

Sendek specializes in turning around moribund programs. He's never won a conference championship in a major conference, but he's always taken over programs that were among if not the worst in the conference and made them respectable/better than when he took over.

Santa Clara isn't in the top tier in the WCC bc Gonzaga and St. Mary's have like a quarter century head start on them, and a lot more support from the school and administration for basketball. But he's recruited/developed the school's first two NBA draft picks since Steve Nash -- all star Jalen Williams of OKC and Brandin Podziemski of GSW and has the SCU program on the most solid footing it's been on since the 90s. With Gonzaga leaving the WCC, they stand to benefit and become an NCAA at large contender when before he took over they were an RPI 200-type program. 4 straight 20 win seasons never been done. 4 straight years of above .600 in the league never been done.

He's also, like McDermott for Creighton, known for hiring excellent assistant coaches. SCU has navigated the portal very well in the last few years. Obviously, they aren't doing it with money.

I think he's a good coach that would take the job if offered.

The ties to NBA stars like Williams, Podziemski and James Harden might help keep Asuma at UMN as well.
 


stocker08 said:
If you're going to push race and gender baiting dogwhistles like "DEI" that are being widely used to target women and minorities all over the country....then be prepared to be called out on it. Don't play innocent or act like YOU are the one being unfairly targeted.
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I'm not even sure what all this means. But I've wiped the tears off my face after being unfairly targeted. I'll decline to respond any further so this doesn't turn into another OTB pissing match.

Have a nice day stocker08. It's a good day for Gophers basketball!
 



golfing18now said:
I'm not even sure what all this means. But I've wiped the tears off my face after being unfairly targeted. I'll decline to respond any further so this doesn't turn into another OTB pissing match.

Have a nice day stocker08. It's a good day for Gophers basketball!
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You've always been a reasonable poster, even if we don't agree on a lot in terms of politics. All I am saying is that the term "DEI" is increasingly being used as a dogwhistle to assign blame to women and minorities for problems and issues where it doesn't apply at all....and it's a concerning trend. I won't even go as far as to say that Johnson being black had nothing to do with his hiring. I really have no idea if that was one of the main reasons. Just think that people should step back and take a look at the language that they are using, because terms like "DEI" are being used in some pretty despicable manners to demonize particular groups of people....and it's reckless.

Anyways....I apologize for attacking the way I did. In the end, we all just want what's best for the program.
 

Beerculees said:
I am guessing it is going to be Medved. I am 100% okay with this. He has had success at CSU. He finds diamonds in the rough, and he has a good group of sophomores who could come along with him. I get we want splashy, but no matter who we get it will be exciting and better than what we had.
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Just tough when he’s behind Pitino in the same conference and we could have had Dutcher 4 years ago. I’m no Pitino fan.
 




I’m all in on splashy that can back it up. Someone that checks all or most of the boxes.
Home run, total package, etc...
Why F around with anything less?
 


stocker08 said:
You've always been a reasonable poster, even if we don't agree on a lot in terms of politics. All I am saying is that the term "DEI" is increasingly being used as a dogwhistle to assign blame to women and minorities for problems and issues where it doesn't apply at all....and it's a concerning trend. I won't even go as far as to say that Johnson being black had nothing to do with his hiring. I really have no idea if that was one of the main reasons. Just think that people should step back and take a look at the language that they are using, because terms like "DEI" are being used in some pretty despicable manners to demonize particular groups of people....and it's reckless.

Anyways....I apologize for attacking the way I did. In the end, we all just want what's best for the program.
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Fair enough. Very reasonable response. I will say that the race of the next coach is not at all a concern of mine. But your explanation is something I will consider more moving forward. Truce!

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