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Dakota2 said:
And surely you are aware that the majority of new cases, hospitalizations, and deaths are vaccinated people. They are experimental drugs and not very effective, unfortunately.
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Unlike FB, I'm going to go with provide sources for your statements.


Edit: I'll even give you a hand. Scour through the articles there from journalists all over the political map. I challenge you to find one article that supports you.
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Dakota2 said:
You need to face up to your role personally of transmitting virus to millions of people. Yes you, Mr. Simpering Baby, are part of that human chain that contracts disease and spreads it around.

You sat on your ass on the couch last night but while you are bleating out your virtue signals today about how careful and morally superior you are, several people who were in the crowded club last night breathed in your face at the office, at lunch, and at the convenience store. You are a super spreader. Thank God our lads in maroon and gold are no where near you.
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Do you think typing out a word salad like this makes people forget your idiotic position that it doesn't matter if the players are avoiding crowded areas? Less contact = less chance of catching covid. It's a simple concept that you don't seem to grasp.

Dakota2 said:
They are not sick.
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Right. They are smarter than you are.
 



stocker08 said:
Do you think typing out a word salad like this makes people forget your idiotic position that it doesn't matter if the players are avoiding crowded areas? Less contact = less chance of catching covid. It's a simple concept that you don't seem to grasp.



Right. They are smarter than you are.
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And you are still dumb enough to believe the football team would be spending every night in a night club if it were not for covid.
 

Dakota2 said:
And you are still dumb enough to believe the football team would be spending every night in a night club if it were not for covid.
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It was an example. I get that you are taking that example and running with it in order to deflect from the idiotic take that it doesn't matter if players are exercising caution. We're all going to get covid regardless.

In a thread about all the bowl cancellations due to covid that has spread through teams. lol.
 

Dakota2 said:
And surely you are aware that the majority of new cases, hospitalizations, and deaths are vaccinated people. They are experimental drugs and not very effective, unfortunately.
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While I agree that current rules, especially for Omicrom are overly strict, your statement above about majority of current hospitalizations is 100% inaccurate.
 




stocker08 said:
It was an example. I get that you are taking that example and running with it in order to deflect from the idiotic take that it doesn't matter if players are exercising caution. We're all going to get covid regardless.

In a thread about all the bowl cancellations due to covid that has spread through teams. lol.
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I didn't say they were taking unneccessary chances. I said they are in normal game prep. You seem to need the image of the players hiding in dark rooms and whimpering in fear and panic because some moron said we are facing a winter of death and despair.
 

Dakota2 said:
And surely you are aware that the majority of new cases, hospitalizations, and deaths are vaccinated people. They are experimental drugs and not very effective, unfortunately.
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Being a medical researcher myself, this conflicts with what I have heard from colleagues who are ICU physicians (i.e. critical care pulmonologists) and physician researchers. Since anecdotal evidence is relatively poor, even though the individuals are certainly qualified/credible. I thus decided to look for research results on this topic.

As far as vaccinations go I am happy to share that the only evidence I found shows completely the opposite value of vaccinations from your assertion. References follow below:

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Do...-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org...alized-with-covid-19-breakthrough-infections/

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7037e1.htm

https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab932/6415962

The best place to look for medical peer reviewed research is PubMed but Google Scholar works fine too or visit your local medical library to find other good options for searching. Here is a simple search I did on PubMed that came up with some relevant research.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=COVID-19+breakthrough+hospitalizations

If you have references that contradict this evidence, of the positive value of the covid-19 vaccinations, please share.

As far as "drugs" go, it is hard to comment because I don't know which drugs you are referring to. I can look up the research on them and share if you would like just let me know which drugs you are concerned about. Off the cuff I am aware of research that shows one of major monoclonal antibodies is not effective against the omicron variant (even though it was effective against delta and other varients) but there is at least one other monoclonal that does remain effective. Again let me know your questions on the drugs and I will be happy to find more information. If you have questions about how the vaccinations work on the molecular level with our immune system I can find those answers too.

I hope this helps.
 


Dakota2 said:
I didn't say they were taking unneccessary chances. I said they are in normal game prep. You seem to need the image of the players hiding in dark rooms and whimpering in fear and panic because some moron said we are facing a winter of death and despair.
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You really seem adamant about letting everyone know that you aren't scared of covid. Nobody cares and it has nothing to do with how the Gopher players exercise caution leading up to the game. I'm not scared of catching it either. However....me catching it wouldn't compromise an entire team or a bowl game.

Get a grip. The only point you are making is that you are a goon.
 



OK, whatever that is replacing the Holiday Bowl on channel 9 is one of the lamest things I've ever seen.
 

Ragnor said:
Being a medical researcher myself, this conflicts with what I have heard from colleagues who are ICU physicians (i.e. critical care pulmonologists) and physician researchers. Since anecdotal evidence is relatively poor, even though the individuals are certainly qualified/credible. I thus decided to look for research results on this topic.

As far as vaccinations go I am happy to share that the only evidence I found shows completely the opposite value of vaccinations from your assertion. References follow below:

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Do...-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org...alized-with-covid-19-breakthrough-infections/

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7037e1.htm

https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab932/6415962

The best place to look for medical peer reviewed research is PubMed but Google Scholar works fine too or visit your local medical library to find other good options for searching. Here is a simple search I did on PubMed that came up with some relevant research.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=COVID-19+breakthrough+hospitalizations

If you have references that contradict this evidence, of the positive value of the covid-19 vaccinations, please share.

As far as "drugs" go, it is hard to comment because I don't know which drugs you are referring to. I can look up the research on them and share if you would like just let me know which drugs you are concerned about. Off the cuff I am aware of research that shows one of major monoclonal antibodies is not effective against the omicron variant (even though it was effective against delta and other varients) but there is at least one other monoclonal that does remain effective. Again let me know your questions on the drugs and I will be happy to find more information. If you have questions about how the vaccinations work on the molecular level with our immune system I can find those answers too.

I hope this helps.
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Excellent, excellent post. In another time it would swiftly end the discussion and expose the fraudulent point(s) made by the person you are addressing.

The problem is, that is no longer the case. We’ve all seen this replay too often now. The formula is very predictable. One of the following things will happen:

1. he’ll double down and make further senseless points, perhaps even backed with a fraudulent link that is either suspect or more likely, doesn’t directly address your comments.

2. he’ll reply and focus on some minor aspect of what you wrote, ignoring the main points, and thereby casting doubt on all of it.

3. He’ll skip responding at all, and just go elsewhere to spew the falsehoods.

The only thing I am sure of is he will not be replying to say “geez, I was totally wrong about my statements about vaccinated people in hospitals. And most everything else too. Thank you for the excellent information”. This is the 20’s and it unfortunately it doesn’t work that way.
 

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